40 mph cruisers who speed up when overtaken...

40 mph cruisers who speed up when overtaken...

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DonkeyApple

55,479 posts

170 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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superman84 said:
What about a scenario where you're doing the speed limit and the car behind decides you're not going fast enough and goes for the overtake and fails. Surely they only have themselves to blame?
Why wouldn't you have given a helping hand?

superman84

772 posts

166 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
Why wouldn't you have given a helping hand?
If I'm cruising along under the limit, I happily let cars past. Not sure why I would be obliged to give anyone a 'helping hand' though? if they're not quick enough to to get past safely maybe they shouldn't be overtaking in the first place. Why should I slow down to facilitate someone else speeding?

Edited by superman84 on Friday 27th July 08:22

DonkeyApple

55,479 posts

170 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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superman84 said:
If I'm cruising along under the limit, I happily let cars past. Not sure why I would be obliged to give anyone a 'helping hand' though? if they're not quick enough to to get past safely maybe they shouldn't be overtaking in the first place. Why should I slow down to facilitate someone else speeding?

Edited by superman84 on Friday 27th July 08:22
Why wouldn't you? What does it matter what speed you or they are going at?

superman84

772 posts

166 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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[quote=DonkeyApple]

Why wouldn't you? What does it matter what speed you or they are going at?
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Explain why I should I slow my speed to help them break the limit. Again if they're not quick enough but want to drive like a bellend - not my problem.

gherkins

483 posts

232 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Speeding up when being overtaken seems to be standard fare here in Germany - even for pedestrians.

You're behind someone on the right-hand side of the pavement (to go on the left seems against the rules), cyclists doing 90 on the cycle path, plenty of room before the man with two bulging bags of beer bottles coming the other way. You pull out from the slipstream, avoiding getting too close because citizens of Munich often seem adverse to the wonders of soap. You should be past easily, but you glance to the right and see the overtakee's steely, determined gaze forward as his Birkenstocks shuffle back and forth with ever increasing speed and precision. The next thing you know is a beer bottle to the groin; you automatically mutter sorry and all the other pedestrians continue on as though nothing has happened...

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

266 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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superman84 said:
What about a scenario where you're doing the speed limit and the car behind decides you're not going fast enough and goes for the overtake and fails. Surely they only have themselves to blame?
You're right. Speeding is wrong. Clearly says so in the highway code and you are right to stick to the code. No possible argument.

superman84 said:
Explain why I should I slow my speed to help them break the limit. Again if they're not quick enough but want to drive like a bellend - not my problem.
You're right. Sure, in the highway code it says to let them past, or slow down to let them overtake safely, but rules are for stupid people.

I hope superman84 and superman84 never meet, they would argue all the time.

StottyZr

6,860 posts

164 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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gherkins said:
Speeding up when being overtaken seems to be standard fare here in Germany - even for pedestrians.

You're behind someone on the right-hand side of the pavement (to go on the left seems against the rules), cyclists doing 90 on the cycle path, plenty of room before the man with two bulging bags of beer bottles coming the other way. You pull out from the slipstream, avoiding getting too close because citizens of Munich often seem adverse to the wonders of soap. You should be past easily, but you glance to the right and see the overtakee's steely, determined gaze forward as his Birkenstocks shuffle back and forth with ever increasing speed and precision. The next thing you know is a beer bottle to the groin; you automatically mutter sorry and all the other pedestrians continue on as though nothing has happened...
rofl Thats quite hilarious. I should try this in a shopping center

superman84

772 posts

166 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Captain Muppet said:
You're right. Sure, in the highway code it says to let them past, or slow down to let them overtake safely, but rules are for stupid people.

I hope superman84 and superman84 never meet, they would argue all the time.
The point is they are dependent on me helping them get past safely. And if you're trying to speed but need the car in front to give you a break to do so, you're lame and you either need to stop driving like a tool or buy a faster car. If you're going to drive aggressively make sure you have the equipment to pull it off or you're setting yourself up for an embarrassment.

Edited by superman84 on Friday 27th July 08:51

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

266 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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superman84 said:
Captain Muppet said:
You're right. Sure, in the highway code it says to let them past, or slow down to let them overtake safely, but rules are for stupid people.

I hope superman84 and superman84 never meet, they would argue all the time.
The point is they are dependent on me helping them get past safely. And if you're trying to speed but need the car in front to give you a break to do so, you're lame.
If they are dependant on you to complete their overtake then yes, they are rubbish at spacial awareness and planning. Given that the person trying to overtake you has started doing something stupid and dangerous, why wouldn't you help them complete their stupid and dangerous action in the safest way possible by slowing down and letting them pass?

Or would you rather be involved in a crash because some one "lame" started it?

superman84

772 posts

166 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Captain Muppet said:
If they are dependant on you to complete their overtake then yes, they are rubbish at spacial awareness and planning. Given that the person trying to overtake you has started doing something stupid and dangerous, why wouldn't you help them complete their stupid and dangerous action in the safest way possible by slowing down and letting them pass?

Or would you rather be involved in a crash because some one "lame" started it?
If I decide to speed up so they drop back behind, noone will crash and they'll be forced to drive to speed limit thus making the road safer for all : ). Lesson learnt - dont bother being a cock and trying to outgun a quicker car. Obviously if I'm driving particularly slowly to start then this wouldn't apply.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

266 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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superman84 said:
Captain Muppet said:
If they are dependant on you to complete their overtake then yes, they are rubbish at spacial awareness and planning. Given that the person trying to overtake you has started doing something stupid and dangerous, why wouldn't you help them complete their stupid and dangerous action in the safest way possible by slowing down and letting them pass?

Or would you rather be involved in a crash because some one "lame" started it?
If I decide to speed up so they drop back behind, noone will crash and they'll be forced to drive to speed limit thus making the road safer for all : ). Lesson learnt - dont bother being a cock and trying to outgun a quicker car. Obviously if I'm driving particularly slowly to start then this wouldn't apply.
The conventional wisdom is that people who speed up when being overtaken are s. Someone should start a thread about it.

It seems odd that you are willing to speed to avoid being overtaken, but not willing to speed so you don't hold up other traffic.

It also seems odd that you are willing to stick to the "not speeding" part of the highway code, but not willing to stick to the "not being dangerous when being overtaken" part of the highway code.

I'm sure you have reasons for this based on being able to "outgun" people, or something else indicative of deep seated insecurity.

redgriff500

26,919 posts

264 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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superman84 said:
If I decide to speed up so they drop back behind, noone will crash and they'll be forced to drive to speed limit thus making the road safer for all : ). Lesson learnt - dont bother being a cock and trying to outgun a quicker car. Obviously if I'm driving particularly slowly to start then this wouldn't apply.
Whilst you are clearly trolling I'd love to meet you on the road.

I'd happily knock you off the road if you tried that with me as I have a simple rule - if someone endangers me - fk them

Once someone decided to brake test me - his car was worth far more than mine - dented more too.


superman84

772 posts

166 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Captain Muppet said:
The conventional wisdom is that people who speed up when being overtaken are s. Someone should start a thread about it.

It seems odd that you are willing to speed to avoid being overtaken, but not willing to speed so you don't hold up other traffic.

It also seems odd that you are willing to stick to the "not speeding" part of the highway code, but not willing to stick to the "not being dangerous when being overtaken" part of the highway code.

I'm sure you have reasons for this based on being able to "outgun" people, or something else indicative of deep seated insecurity.
I rarely if ever hold up traffic and I almost never have bad overtake experiences. I think the problem is with the whiners who have got fast enough cars or the skills to get their own way on the road.

StottyZr

6,860 posts

164 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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superman84 said:
If I decide to speed up so they drop back behind, noone will crash and they'll be forced to drive to speed limit thus making the road safer for all : ). Lesson learnt - dont bother being a cock and trying to outgun a quicker car. Obviously if I'm driving particularly slowly to start then this wouldn't apply.
A friend of mine built a mk4 Astra van, pretty standard looking. You pull out and try to overtake him doing 40 in a nsl and it turns out he has a breathed on Z20LEH in there.

Would you think "fair play, thats quicker than me and taught me a lesson" then settle down behind him as he slows back to 40? rofl

superman84

772 posts

166 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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redgriff500 said:
Whilst you are clearly trolling I'd love to meet you on the road.

I'd happily knock you off the road if you tried that with me as I have a simple rule - if someone endangers me - fk them

Once someone decided to brake test me - his car was worth far more than mine - dented more too.
Are you a powerfully built director? You sound like an angry little man! Don't drive like a bell end and maybe you wont resort to ramming people. The irony of your statement - tt. Hope the insurance company shafted you over that ramming stunt. P r I c k

Edited by superman84 on Friday 27th July 09:42

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

266 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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superman84 said:
Captain Muppet said:
The conventional wisdom is that people who speed up when being overtaken are s. Someone should start a thread about it.

It seems odd that you are willing to speed to avoid being overtaken, but not willing to speed so you don't hold up other traffic.

It also seems odd that you are willing to stick to the "not speeding" part of the highway code, but not willing to stick to the "not being dangerous when being overtaken" part of the highway code.

I'm sure you have reasons for this based on being able to "outgun" people, or something else indicative of deep seated insecurity.
I rarely if ever hold up traffic and I almost never have bad overtake experiences. I think the problem is with the whiners who have got fast enough cars or the skills to get their own way on the road.
Oh, well if it's rare that you drive dangerously then it's all fine.

No one minds occasional dangerous driving to teach someone a lesson.

superman84 said:
redgriff500 said:
Whilst you are clearly trolling I'd love to meet you on the road.

I'd happily knock you off the road if you tried that with me as I have a simple rule - if someone endangers me - fk them

Once someone decided to brake test me - his car was worth far more than mine - dented more too.
Are you a powerfully built director? You sound like an angry little man! Don't drive like a bell end and maybe you wont resort to ramming people. The irony of your statement - tt. Hope the insurance company shafted you over that ramming stunt. P r I c k
You are right: occasional dangerous driving to teach someone a lesson is entirely unacceptable.

otolith

56,270 posts

205 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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superman84 said:
otolith said:
I should think not, they don't attract that kind of driver (not even the ones that could cause you a problem if driven by a dick).
A 111R wouldn't be a problem even if it did try to stop an overtake
Oh absolutely, it's only really quicker than something like an Evo VIII 260. But then it isn't really a quick Elise as Elises go.

redgriff500

26,919 posts

264 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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superman84 said:
redgriff500 said:
Whilst you are clearly trolling I'd love to meet you on the road.

I'd happily knock you off the road if you tried that with me as I have a simple rule - if someone endangers me - fk them

Once someone decided to brake test me - his car was worth far more than mine - dented more too.
Are you a powerfully built director? You sound like an angry little man! Don't drive like a bell end and maybe you wont resort to ramming people. The irony of your statement - tt. Hope the insurance company shafted you over that ramming stunt. P r I c k
How is overtaking someone, driving like a bellend ?

Accelerating when someone overtakes, proves you are so insecure about your tiny willy and you take it as an insult.

If you could drive you wouldn't need an Evo and no one would be able to overtake you so the issue wouldn't arise.

You are of course assuming I stopped and that the car was registered to me - we don't all play by the same rules.

biggrin

Tonsko

6,299 posts

216 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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vsonix said:
Another way might be to consider dropping a gear or two and loading the revs up so you're in the power band and will be able to gain speed a fair bit quicker as you move out. If you're rapidly gaining speed behind someone and he slows for some reason or you realise you're not going to be able to get out and do the move after all it could end badly.
I agree with this and let circumstances dictate - usually only when there is a clear bit for an overtake. You drop a gear or two and give it a couple of seconds of beans before moving out - I suppose I made it sound like I get within a few feet of the car, which is foolhardy. It's more about getting to overtaking speed before exposing yourself. So to speak. smile. Dirty minded swines. But yeh, point taken.

Sonic

4,007 posts

208 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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The problem is queue mentality - by overtaking they consider you to be calling them a cock and pushing into the queue in-front of them.