RE: Driven: Ferrari FF
Discussion
Absolutely incredible cars, I actually prefer them to the 458.
I wasn't sure on the looks until I saw one up close, then properly fell in love with it.
The sound is just amazing and the interior is the best of any car Ive ever been in.
Only driven it for a short distance but it felt just right, can't wait for a proper drive in one.
Ferrari FF - Nero With Crema - Explored by Adam Kennedy Photography, on Flickr
I wasn't sure on the looks until I saw one up close, then properly fell in love with it.
The sound is just amazing and the interior is the best of any car Ive ever been in.
Only driven it for a short distance but it felt just right, can't wait for a proper drive in one.
Ferrari FF - Nero With Crema - Explored by Adam Kennedy Photography, on Flickr
I think the ideal set up would be one of these for your winter car and a 458 Spyder for the summer blasts. I had never thought that my ideal two car garage would both be Ferrari's. Get the 458 in red with creme leather like all good Ferrari's should be then the FF in a more sedate colour like grey.
I've always been a bit mystified at the hostility towards the looks when the car it 'replaced', the Scag, was a hideous thing with squinty eyes, nasty wheels and a sense of being an anemic E Type with Ferrari badges on it...
The price of this is just silly tho - don't even try to justify it, just accept there are people with more money than they need (almost certainly more than they've earned or deserve)...
The price of this is just silly tho - don't even try to justify it, just accept there are people with more money than they need (almost certainly more than they've earned or deserve)...
405dogvan said:
I've always been a bit mystified at the hostility towards the looks when the car it 'replaced', the Scag, was a hideous thing with squinty eyes, nasty wheels and a sense of being an anemic E Type with Ferrari badges on it...
The price of this is just silly tho - don't even try to justify it, just accept there are people with more money than they need (almost certainly more than they've earned or deserve)...
You were making sense. Until those eight words of drivel at the end. The price of this is just silly tho - don't even try to justify it, just accept there are people with more money than they need (almost certainly more than they've earned or deserve)...
If you think a Maybach has a steep depreciation curve, wait until you see these hideous slags drop once the warranty runs out! Two gear boxes? One a tiny one only made for this Ferrari? And all those Ferrari electrics to go wrong? And add that to all the reasons the mentioned second hand models are now so cheap times two or three because the FF is so butt ugly. It's the biggest financial black hole created this side of a Bugatti Veyron.
Doesn't matter to the devil-may-care banksters, footballers, and Duhbai crowd who buy them new and trade them in on whatever's next up from Ferrari just as the warranty runs dry.
Doesn't matter to the devil-may-care banksters, footballers, and Duhbai crowd who buy them new and trade them in on whatever's next up from Ferrari just as the warranty runs dry.
Manual Ferrari 612 - Best of all worlds and you save £200k over an FF. If I was in the market for this sort of thing, this would be my choice!!!!
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...
kmpowell said:
Originally it was Shooting Break as the term game from France where the break de chassis was literally the refreshments wagon that went out on the shoot.
In England, over time, the spelling was changed to be inline with our word for a cheap, open wagon or 'brake'.
So there are two arguements but it is very likely that as a concept it was a French import just as many other similar cultural tip table terms were at the time before the expansion of the Empire and Victoriana made us the social top dogs when it came to culture and land owning classes.
Camlet said:
405dogvan said:
I've always been a bit mystified at the hostility towards the looks when the car it 'replaced', the Scag, was a hideous thing with squinty eyes, nasty wheels and a sense of being an anemic E Type with Ferrari badges on it...
The price of this is just silly tho - don't even try to justify it, just accept there are people with more money than they need (almost certainly more than they've earned or deserve)...
You were making sense. Until those eight words of drivel at the end. The price of this is just silly tho - don't even try to justify it, just accept there are people with more money than they need (almost certainly more than they've earned or deserve)...
People talk of getting a car they're 'worked for' - but a £272K Ferrari isn't something you can 'work' for, there's no honest 'work' that pays that sort of money - gambling, extortion, inherited undeserved priviledge, tax avoidance and outright fraud are the sources of such wealth - the car is a sign of dishonesty.
I suppose we could call it 'trickle down economics' - someone born into wealth gets an FF now and in 8 years someone picks-it-up in the shed thread - except I've a suspicion that won't happen because car tech is creeping to the point that no-one can afford to run cars beyond a certain point - cars will either hold value as rare classics or rot somewhere until the remainder do the former!
I've been a fan of cars for a long time., but it's only recently that I've looked at some cars and thought "I'd rather that didn't exist". I see them like I see £10K designer handbags, I understand why people make them, I just wish society would shun them because £200K+ supercars being ascendant alongside foreclosures, unemployment and even rising hunger is - well - hard to swallow innit?
405dogvan said:
People talk of getting a car they're 'worked for' - but a £272K Ferrari isn't something you can 'work' for, there's no honest 'work' that pays that sort of money - gambling, extortion, inherited undeserved priviledge, tax avoidance and outright fraud are the sources of such wealth - the car is a sign of dishonesty.
Or it's a sign of someone who refused to settle for the same job as all the regular folk around him and bust his balls to be better than he was born. Just because you can only imagine such wealth being acquired dishonestly does not mean it is true or accurate.
There are plenty of people out there who stood up and stepped forward and put in immense hours to create the wealth needed to buy such a car. And the simple reality is that without these people most on PH wouldn't have a job and wouldn't have a car.
So, if be grateful that there are people out there with the money to buy these things.
405dogvan said:
Camlet said:
405dogvan said:
I've always been a bit mystified at the hostility towards the looks when the car it 'replaced', the Scag, was a hideous thing with squinty eyes, nasty wheels and a sense of being an anemic E Type with Ferrari badges on it...
The price of this is just silly tho - don't even try to justify it, just accept there are people with more money than they need (almost certainly more than they've earned or deserve)...
You were making sense. Until those eight words of drivel at the end. The price of this is just silly tho - don't even try to justify it, just accept there are people with more money than they need (almost certainly more than they've earned or deserve)...
People talk of getting a car they're 'worked for' - but a £272K Ferrari isn't something you can 'work' for, there's no honest 'work' that pays that sort of money - gambling, extortion, inherited undeserved priviledge, tax avoidance and outright fraud are the sources of such wealth - the car is a sign of dishonesty.
I suppose we could call it 'trickle down economics' - someone born into wealth gets an FF now and in 8 years someone picks-it-up in the shed thread - except I've a suspicion that won't happen because car tech is creeping to the point that no-one can afford to run cars beyond a certain point - cars will either hold value as rare classics or rot somewhere until the remainder do the former!
I've been a fan of cars for a long time., but it's only recently that I've looked at some cars and thought "I'd rather that didn't exist". I see them like I see £10K designer handbags, I understand why people make them, I just wish society would shun them because £200K+ supercars being ascendant alongside foreclosures, unemployment and even rising hunger is - well - hard to swallow innit?
Camlet said:
405dogvan said:
Camlet said:
405dogvan said:
I've always been a bit mystified at the hostility towards the looks when the car it 'replaced', the Scag, was a hideous thing with squinty eyes, nasty wheels and a sense of being an anemic E Type with Ferrari badges on it...
The price of this is just silly tho - don't even try to justify it, just accept there are people with more money than they need (almost certainly more than they've earned or deserve)...
You were making sense. Until those eight words of drivel at the end. The price of this is just silly tho - don't even try to justify it, just accept there are people with more money than they need (almost certainly more than they've earned or deserve)...
People talk of getting a car they're 'worked for' - but a £272K Ferrari isn't something you can 'work' for, there's no honest 'work' that pays that sort of money - gambling, extortion, inherited undeserved priviledge, tax avoidance and outright fraud are the sources of such wealth - the car is a sign of dishonesty.
I suppose we could call it 'trickle down economics' - someone born into wealth gets an FF now and in 8 years someone picks-it-up in the shed thread - except I've a suspicion that won't happen because car tech is creeping to the point that no-one can afford to run cars beyond a certain point - cars will either hold value as rare classics or rot somewhere until the remainder do the former!
I've been a fan of cars for a long time., but it's only recently that I've looked at some cars and thought "I'd rather that didn't exist". I see them like I see £10K designer handbags, I understand why people make them, I just wish society would shun them because £200K+ supercars being ascendant alongside foreclosures, unemployment and even rising hunger is - well - hard to swallow innit?
Look what was parked outside of work tonight. Excuse the crap phone pics, I was in a rush to get home...
On a couple of occasions I've seen a grey one prowling the square, but this is the first time I've seen one static and up close. Pictures do NOT do this car justice, it is stunning in the metal. Ok, so the White with bright red interior (inc seats, dash, console, carpets, the lot!) probably wouldn't be my choice, but the lines and shapes remind me of the Z3M coupe, but with exotic aggression.
Would I buy one if I had the money? Well, due to where I work I get to see all sorts of wild and expensive exotica on a daily basis (parked 3 spaces up from the FF was a bright orange Lamborghini Aventador!), and [even though it was white] this is the first time I've not thought the shape of an exotic car was vulgar or looked out of place, so yes I probably would.
On a couple of occasions I've seen a grey one prowling the square, but this is the first time I've seen one static and up close. Pictures do NOT do this car justice, it is stunning in the metal. Ok, so the White with bright red interior (inc seats, dash, console, carpets, the lot!) probably wouldn't be my choice, but the lines and shapes remind me of the Z3M coupe, but with exotic aggression.
Would I buy one if I had the money? Well, due to where I work I get to see all sorts of wild and expensive exotica on a daily basis (parked 3 spaces up from the FF was a bright orange Lamborghini Aventador!), and [even though it was white] this is the first time I've not thought the shape of an exotic car was vulgar or looked out of place, so yes I probably would.
Edited by kmpowell on Wednesday 14th November 18:49
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