Some people really don't like being overtaken do they?

[Digger]

Eh? How has he got a chip on his shoulder? Camera is there quite likely for his job/employer insisting on it. Potty mouth yes, but it is funny nonetheless.

eta I love the two instant reactions to the two brake tests. Intake of breath, manic laughter.

Edited by Digger on Sunday 13th January 20:25

[ols]

I've had some strange experiences in overtaking before...the most notable of which was on the Acle Straight in Norfolk. I was in a 1.2 clio doing about 60mph at 1am.
I was approaching another car doing about 40mph (an old toyota supra), so with a clear road ahead I pulled out and went for a nice and straightforward wafty-style overtake, only for the bellend in the supra to floor it and show me the immense turbo power he possessed.

He shoots in front, so I go back into my own lane, only to get a MASSIVE brake test from the supra feet later. Basically came to a standstill, opened the door, shouted a bunch of illeterate waffle and then proceeded to drive at about 20mph.

I then tried again. This time he put his foot down and kept it there...

[Contigo]

The way he is ranting, what a , what a fking wker, what a tosser etc...

People like that will have a hernia if they go about all jobs in that manner. Watch some of the other videos he posted and check his reaction, it doesn't strike me like the reaction of your average person. The thing with truckers like this is that they think they own the road.

Here is a comment from another trucker to him after a trucker overtook him (ironic in this thread really)

"Fair enough the tosser shouldn't be overtaking there but you were doing 96kph on a single lane carriageway when you should be doing 65kph and I'm a class one driver. Takes one dhead to know one"

To which he responded.


"I wondered how long it would be before some do-gooder made a comment like you have.
I was leaving a dual carriageway at the time which is why i`m travelling at that speed.
Yes i`m still speeding i know but who doesn`t ...Not many.
Don`t know why you find the need to tell everyone you`re a truck driver..Get your own channel if you want everyone to know"

Now the tables are turned he's not best pleased.

[RDMcG]

Remagel2507 said:

+1 first time seeing that,saved for future laughs

OK..I was wrong.

There IS a God.

[Digger]

Well it made me laugh.

[Colonial]

Contigo said:

The way he is ranting, what a , what a fking wker, what a tosser etc...

People like that will have a hernia if they go about all jobs in that manner. Watch some of the other videos he posted and check his reaction, it doesn't strike me like the reaction of your average person. The thing with truckers like this is that they think they own the road.

Here is a comment from another trucker to him after a trucker overtook him (ironic in this thread really)

"Fair enough the tosser shouldn't be overtaking there but you were doing 96kph on a single lane carriageway when you should be doing 65kph and I'm a class one driver. Takes one dhead to know one"

To which he responded.


"I wondered how long it would be before some do-gooder made a comment like you have.
I was leaving a dual carriageway at the time which is why i`m travelling at that speed.
Yes i`m still speeding i know but who doesn`t ...Not many.
Don`t know why you find the need to tell everyone you`re a truck driver..Get your own channel if you want everyone to know"

Now the tables are turned he's not best pleased.

And this has what to do with blocking overtakes?

[coppice]

I had to do a long drive from North Yorkshire to Oxford on Friday; decided to use lots of A Roads as I had all day and enjoy roads like A43 from Stamford over to Nthampton. Or used to..apart from random and pointless 50 limits the standard of driving was appalling. I drive a diesel Skoda but could not believe the passive aggressive driving- truck doing 40, three cars well spaced behind it, long clear straight, take 2 safely and of course car three gets into light flashing mode. Why- I am perfectly ok about being overtaken and will leave space for people to do it safely. Overtake a Prius (which contrary to lazy sterotyping are often driven briskly )- clear road again , safe and uneventful overtake and yet I get a paroxysm of disapproval form Toyota driver. Waving , flashing etc. What IS it with these people ?

Even worse in my Seven - dipsticks in Novas and Fabias want to impress you with their car's legendary cornering and acceleration...

[g3org3y]

Seems to be a phenomenon exclusive to the UK ime. Never had anything like this in France, Italy, Germany tbh.

There's a terrible mentality in the UK of "I'm having to be in the queue, so you have to as well".

Almost certainly the same type of bells who will sit in Lane 3 at 70mph because "that's the limit, if I can't go any quicker, neither can you!".

[TAHodgson]

You get this a lot in underpowered 'normal' cars I find, my first car was a MK2 Punto with a full abarth bumper kit, it looked the part but had no go at all. Heading down a quiet dual carriageway, 996 Turbo in left lane doing about 55 i'd guess? I was sat at 70, saw him from well behind, pulled into outside lane very far in advance, as soon as I got nearly level with him his right foot got firmly planted and off he went. I really don't understand people's logic.... however this particular 996 was white, with blacked out windows, black and chrome wheels and a "carbon fibre" roof/spoiler.... cock.

[MitchT]

g3org3y said:

There's a terrible mentality in the UK of "I'm having to be in the queue, so you have to as well".

Even when they are the queue!

I was stuck behind a Volvo V40 doing about 18mph in a 30. When we came to some lights the road split into a left lane for left turn + straight on and right lane for straight on only. He went in the left lane and I went into the right lane as I needed to make a right turn a couple of hundred metres beyond the lights. He must have thought I was going in the right lane so I could get ahead when the lights changed as he took off like a scalded cat when they went green - like his purpose for living was to keep people behind him. Really must get a dash cam.

[itz_baseline]

coppice said:

I drive a diesel Skoda but could not believe the passive aggressive driving- truck doing 40, three cars well spaced behind it, long clear straight, take 2 safely and of course car three gets into light flashing mode. Why- I am perfectly ok about being overtaken and will leave space for people to do it safely. Overtake a Prius (which contrary to lazy sterotyping are often driven briskly )- clear road again , safe and uneventful overtake and yet I get a paroxysm of disapproval form Toyota driver. Waving , flashing etc. What IS it with these people ?

Allow me to play devils advocate. I think a lot of this has to do with stopping distances. At 40mph the suggested distance to leave between yourself and the car in front is 40 meters. The '3 well spaced' cars were probably well spaced as they were leaving themselves the relevant stopping distances....which you chose to fill meaning they have to drop back further.

Remember, not everyone thinks like you and some people choose to leave a big enough space so they can react should an incident occur.....they aren't leaving the space so you can fill it if you choose.

If someone was flashing their lights, they more than likely thought you were doing something wrong....

It's a tough one, as like yourself I will fill them spaces when it's safe to make progress....but then I understand that some people think I shouldn't be doing that and therefore they flash me.

[DMN]

Garvin said:

Today, whilst be chauffeured by SWMBO, we caught up with a BMW 330D Touring. It was doing ~55mph, we were doing ~60mph on single carriageway NSL road. As we caught up it sped off into the distance and then slowed back down to its original speed so, inexorably, we caught it up again.

I've encounted this a few times when driving from York to Malton via the back routes. Driving at the speed limit of 60 I'll come across a small hatchback* being driven by a man. They'll clock me in the mirror and shoot off above the speed limit, and then when out of sight, they'll slow down again. Untill I catch them back up. Its only ever happened to me on that one road, a different car/driver each time.

• Leon, Astra, that type of thing.

[coppice]

itz_baseline said:

Allow me to play devils advocate. I think a lot of this has to do with stopping distances. At 40mph the suggested distance to leave between yourself and the car in front is 40 meters. The '3 well spaced' cars were probably well spaced as they were leaving themselves the relevant stopping distances....which you chose to fill meaning they have to drop back further.

Remember, not everyone thinks like you and some people choose to leave a big enough space so they can react should an incident occur.....they aren't leaving the space so you can fill it if you choose.

If someone was flashing their lights, they more than likely thought you were doing something wrong....

It's a tough one, as like yourself I will fill them spaces when it's safe to make progress....but then I understand that some people think I shouldn't be doing that and therefore they flash me.

Yes, point taken- but if people actually realised that overtaking is not difficult, nor dangerous when executed properly , the problem would not arise. It has become far worse in the last few years- the mindset seems to be that if truck is doing 40 then that is the speed the driver will travel at - and to hell with anybody who might just want to drive at NSL.It is selfish, lazy and potentially dangerous to prevent people overtaking. No problem with someone not wanting to overtake but why can't they at least admit the possibility that others may wish to and accomodate them- I do. Prius driver was just Mr Angry- 45mph , half mile clear straight ahead and I overtake safely and courteously.

The other phenomenon is people who flash their lights when encountering overtaking traffic coming towards them- understandable when things cut fine but when 400 yards space to spare when overtaker completes manouevre - come on...!

[DonkeyApple]

Contigo said:

Fantuzzi said:

Ha that is brilliant!

or the truck driver filming and shouting abuse for absolutely no reason! Biggest CHIP on shoulder ever!

It's just a Yorkshire thing. They say what they like and like what they say. The only way to shut them up is to throw a 5p down the room.

[0000]

itz_baseline said:

Remember, not everyone thinks like you and some people choose to leave a big enough space so they can react should an incident occur.....they aren't leaving the space so you can fill it if you choose.

In response to your devil's advocacy; tough, they don't own that bit of road and they're perfectly capable of finding more space. Perhaps they should be leaving more space if there isn't sufficient space for others to overtake and still leave them their desired braking distance.

[Mr2Mike]

itz_baseline said:

Allow me to play devils advocate. I think a lot of this has to do with stopping distances. At 40mph the suggested distance to leave between yourself and the car in front is 40 meters. The '3 well spaced' cars were probably well spaced as they were leaving themselves the relevant stopping distances....which you chose to fill meaning they have to drop back further.

Remember, not everyone thinks like you and some people choose to leave a big enough space so they can react should an incident occur.....they aren't leaving the space so you can fill it if you choose.

Wedging your car into a very small gap is clearly aggressive behavior, but someone slotting their car into a 40 meter gap is hardly cause to get upset about, and there is nothing stopping the overtakee increasing the distance back to what he/she feels comfortable with.

This also doesn't explain why people get aggressive if there are no cars in front of them, i.e. either they are the head of a queue full of sheep, or it's a single car plodding along way below the average speed for the road. To be fair I have seen barely any incidents in the last few years of overtake rage, but had a full-on road rager a few months back who went ballistic after I overtook in these circumstances (i.e. no-one in front of them, so no braking distances to reacquire).

[Art0ir]

RDMcG said:

Is this unique to the UK? I see theses threads periodically and it seems incredible. I travel a lot and drive in multiple countries is a year (not the UK as it happens),but I would say I have never been deliberately blocked. (Evidently there are times when people are not paying attenrion but they do eventually look in the mirrors.
Yet, the UK seems to have changed. When I lived there many years ago I naver came across the fist waving/flashing/strict enforcement zealots that appear to be a purely UK species.
Even the anti-speeding posts here show a lot of anger at times for what it not dangerous but merely a bit of spirited lawbreaking. (I am NOT condoning blasting through villages of that 113MPH Porsche driver running past the bikes)
Has the UK turned turned into a community of purse-lipped disapprovers.
Unless you are on a set of endless hairpins I don't buy the theory that you can have marvellous fun at 40 or 50 MPH.
Of course,there are laws and penalties and I have no worries about their enforcement. But they do seems to have engendered a fun-killing puritan movements of Cromwellian motorists.
Sad.really. The UK used to be a blast to drive int. Way,way back I recall taking an Aston Martin DBS down the motorway flat out, somwthing that was generally not regarded as akin to scild molesting. Of course I also recall those magnificent,crowded,smoke filled bars too;_
Welcom to the healthy, responsible non-smoking,salad eating,diesel driving modern world.
Slow down,won't you?
By the way. I don't smoke apart from the occasional cigar and have a clear license everwhere,but it all seems to have gone paer-shaped compared to the free old days.

http://lrs.ed.uiuc.edu/students/fwalters/para.html

[ant leigh]

itz_baseline said:

Allow me to play devils advocate. I think a lot of this has to do with stopping distances. At 40mph the suggested distance to leave between yourself and the car in front is 40 meters. The '3 well spaced' cars were probably well spaced as they were leaving themselves the relevant stopping distances....which you chose to fill meaning they have to drop back further.

Remember, not everyone thinks like you and some people choose to leave a big enough space so they can react should an incident occur.....they aren't leaving the space so you can fill it if you choose.

If someone was flashing their lights, they more than likely thought you were doing something wrong....

It's a tough one, as like yourself I will fill them spaces when it's safe to make progress....but then I understand that some people think I shouldn't be doing that and therefore they flash me.

The problem is though that they have a responsibility to let you in if you are overtaking and to drop further back if there is now insufficient space. The HC makes this quite clear.
The fact that they may not want to is fk all to do with it.

[GokTweed]

OP what did you do to annoy him?

[Geekman]

I tend to get different reactions depending on what I'm driving. In the Mazda people don't usually bat an eyelid, in the Volvo I get flashing, shouting, arm waving, tailgating, you name it! I assume its because they don't like being passed by something that looks old and slow and makes a loud noise. I've even had a few people speed up to try to block the overtake, which is always hilarious because my car isn't quite as slow as you'd first think......