Seriously Overpriced Cars

Seriously Overpriced Cars

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carlove

6,671 posts

132 months

Wednesday 24th February
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Uncle John said:
Jeez, the photos!!
If it wasn't for the newish Astra next to it I'd have thought the pictures are from when it was new.

I do agree with Fun Bus on it not being overpriced though, looks pretty clean from what you can see of it. It's also got very low miles for it's age. Plenty of older, higher mileage X-Types for more money for sale.

MOT history seems odd, had 5 years without an MOT and also a random MOT in kilometres. I'm basing that on the numberplate being RV07 LMY, took a few attempts to decipher but that one came back to a green X-Type.

AMGSee55

399 posts

67 months

Thursday 25th February
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1979-Classic-Austin-Mor...

Owner has seen some immaculate examples going for £12K and reasons that his rotted out equivalent must surely be worth £6.5K. Reality check needed on what restoration work costs!

Wheel_Turned_Out

321 posts

3 months

Thursday 25th February
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As a little further bit on X-Types, came across this and I'm undecided - £7k for Michael Owen's name laser screened across the rear windscreen and a fancy gear knob, and the fact he sat in it when the cameras were about.

Aside from his name on the window I think it looks pretty good in the Liverpool colours.

Part of me thinks that much money for an X-Type is mental. Another part thinks for the right person it'd probably be decent value if they were into footie memorabilia, where prices for signed things can get crazy real fast. Thoughts?



https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1312970


PhantomPH

3,747 posts

190 months

Thursday 25th February
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AMGSee55 said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1979-Classic-Austin-Mor...

Owner has seen some immaculate examples going for £12K and reasons that his rotted out equivalent must surely be worth £6.5K. Reality check needed on what restoration work costs!
Hate to say it, but that's not that overpriced either. Worth about £13-14k once restored and restos are not that expensive. Just the time involved. You could buy that, spend £5k on it and make a profit. In fact, if I had the garage space, I'd make a cheeky offer...

LetsTryAgain

2,854 posts

38 months

Thursday 25th February
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Wheel_Turned_Out said:
As a little further bit on X-Types, came across this and I'm undecided - £7k for Michael Owen's name laser screened across the rear windscreen and a fancy gear knob, and the fact he sat in it when the cameras were about.

Aside from his name on the window I think it looks pretty good in the Liverpool colours.

Part of me thinks that much money for an X-Type is mental. Another part thinks for the right person it'd probably be decent value if they were into footie memorabilia, where prices for signed things can get crazy real fast. Thoughts?



https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1312970
Probably worth £5k to the right person.

Nice enough to drive for what they cost.

glazbagun

11,652 posts

162 months

Saturday 27th February
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One owner Golf with the venerable 1.9PD engine... and only 10K miles:

For £7K


Surely if you want one of these you want one with decent mileage and a book of receipts, not a timewarp example last serviced five years ago. I'd guess it's been bought from an old/retired driver/widow for a pittance.


Wheel_Turned_Out

321 posts

3 months

Saturday 27th February
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glazbagun said:
One owner Golf with the venerable 1.9PD engine... and only 10K miles:

For £7K


Surely if you want one of these you want one with decent mileage and a book of receipts, not a timewarp example last serviced five years ago. I'd guess it's been bought from an old/retired driver/widow for a pittance.
That ad is worth it for this alone:



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2 GKC

1,166 posts

70 months

Saturday 27th February
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Jezza30

254 posts

144 months

Saturday 27th February
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PhantomPH said:
AMGSee55 said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1979-Classic-Austin-Mor...

Owner has seen some immaculate examples going for £12K and reasons that his rotted out equivalent must surely be worth £6.5K. Reality check needed on what restoration work costs!
Hate to say it, but that's not that overpriced either. Worth about £13-14k once restored and restos are not that expensive. Just the time involved. You could buy that, spend £5k on it and make a profit. In fact, if I had the garage space, I'd make a cheeky offer...
I'd take that over this shed..

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102159...

ambuletz

9,369 posts

146 months

Saturday 27th February
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glazbagun said:
One owner Golf with the venerable 1.9PD engine... and only 10K miles:

For £7K


Surely if you want one of these you want one with decent mileage and a book of receipts, not a timewarp example last serviced five years ago. I'd guess it's been bought from an old/retired driver/widow for a pittance.
I don't understand who would ever buy this. It's not particularly a desirable car. it's not something you'll stow away in the hopes it's worth loads in 10years time either. You have to literally be someone who owned one of these, knows it inside out and absolutely love a basic golf to want to own it. but even then... for alot less money you could just buy something that has 70-100k on it with FSH.. and run it for just as long.

PhantomPH

3,747 posts

190 months

Saturday 27th February
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Jezza30 said:
PhantomPH said:
AMGSee55 said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1979-Classic-Austin-Mor...

Owner has seen some immaculate examples going for £12K and reasons that his rotted out equivalent must surely be worth £6.5K. Reality check needed on what restoration work costs!
Hate to say it, but that's not that overpriced either. Worth about £13-14k once restored and restos are not that expensive. Just the time involved. You could buy that, spend £5k on it and make a profit. In fact, if I had the garage space, I'd make a cheeky offer...
I'd take that over this shed..

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102159...
What the ever-loving f... what a POS!

Says it has had all the love and attention he could afford to throw at it - which clearly was about £6.50! Rear-subframe is knackered, needs a respray, looks like st...even the owner describes it as "very ratty" and in need of a full strip down...and a bonnet since that one not only has hideous vents, but is also the wrong bloody shape for the car!!

Honestly, if that is worth £7.5k, then I am laughing all the way to the bank with my '61....

OllieJolly

225 posts

81 months

Saturday 27th February
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ambuletz said:
I don't understand who would ever buy this. It's not particularly a desirable car. it's not something you'll stow away in the hopes it's worth loads in 10years time either. You have to literally be someone who owned one of these, knows it inside out and absolutely love a basic golf to want to own it. but even then... for alot less money you could just buy something that has 70-100k on it with FSH.. and run it for just as long.
I don't understand when dealers claim a timing belt has been changed as if it's sorted and you don't have to worry about it for a while.

"3) 7089 MILES ON 02/12/2011 WITH CAM BELT AND WATER AND SERVICE" over 9 years ago. I would want that doing even if the car was £2.5k.

£7k is ridiculous. They have a 2008 730d for £5,495. Buy that and use the money you've saved on fuel/tax etc...
I don't like the 3dr Golf either.
Dealer must be delusional, that's the only conclusion I can reach.



Nefos

140 posts

49 months

Saturday 27th February
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ambuletz said:
I don't understand who would ever buy this. It's not particularly a desirable car. it's not something you'll stow away in the hopes it's worth loads in 10years time either. You have to literally be someone who owned one of these, knows it inside out and absolutely love a basic golf to want to own it. but even then... for alot less money you could just buy something that has 70-100k on it with FSH.. and run it for just as long.
It is certainly one of those ads when you are looking for that 1 bloke who has some emotional connection to the car. Like when you were 20 you were lusted for one, and now you can afford the best of the best version, so value is not really considered.

It is expensive, yes, overpriced, well, it is in the "try to find another with the same miles and engine" type of situation

Every day a journey

502 posts

3 months

Saturday 27th February
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andy118run said:
Anybody fancy a 14 year old X3 for 12 grand.

Nothing wrong with a 2.5, but the 3.0 or 3.0d is better in these I think.

So less desirable engine, okay (but unremarkable- 59k) miles, weird photoshopped ad (I think).

What's the light on the dash? Light bulb?

Probably a 2 or 3k car for me, being generous.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102098...

I had one of these, the 3.0l as a Discourtesy car once when my car was in for, yet another, warranty repair.

I have to say, it's up there with (could even be top of the list) as THE most horrible car I've ever had the misfortune of driving. Truly hateful. Crashy, appaling visibility and ergonomics, dreadful thirst, felt really 'cheap' inside and just vile to look at too (though by BMW's standards today it's tame).

Hated every loathesome mile in it. And the dealer had given me that thinking I might be interested in buying one. I'd rather shove live wasps down my japseye than ever drive one of those things again.

Don1

14,387 posts

173 months

Saturday 27th February
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Every day a journey said:
I had one of these, the 3.0l as a Discourtesy car once when my car was in for, yet another, warranty repair.

I have to say, it's up there with (could even be top of the list) as THE most horrible car I've ever had the misfortune of driving. Truly hateful. Crashy, appaling visibility and ergonomics, dreadful thirst, felt really 'cheap' inside and just vile to look at too (though by BMW's standards today it's tame).

Hated every loathesome mile in it. And the dealer had given me that thinking I might be interested in buying one. I'd rather shove live wasps down my japseye than ever drive one of those things again.
Shall I put Sir down as a 'maybe'?

glazbagun

11,652 posts

162 months

Saturday 27th February
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Nefos said:
ambuletz said:
I don't understand who would ever buy this. It's not particularly a desirable car. it's not something you'll stow away in the hopes it's worth loads in 10years time either. You have to literally be someone who owned one of these, knows it inside out and absolutely love a basic golf to want to own it. but even then... for alot less money you could just buy something that has 70-100k on it with FSH.. and run it for just as long.
It is certainly one of those ads when you are looking for that 1 bloke who has some emotional connection to the car. Like when you were 20 you were lusted for one, and now you can afford the best of the best version, so value is not really considered.

It is expensive, yes, overpriced, well, it is in the "try to find another with the same miles and engine" type of situation
Thing is; it's a diesel. You kind of want one of those to have sat on the motorway for a decade. Fortunately it's the old PD and not the commonrail, but even so it's one of those cars where low milage is almost undesirable.

HM-2

5,963 posts

134 months

Saturday 27th February
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glazbagun said:
Nefos said:
ambuletz said:
I don't understand who would ever buy this. It's not particularly a desirable car. it's not something you'll stow away in the hopes it's worth loads in 10years time either. You have to literally be someone who owned one of these, knows it inside out and absolutely love a basic golf to want to own it. but even then... for alot less money you could just buy something that has 70-100k on it with FSH.. and run it for just as long.
It is certainly one of those ads when you are looking for that 1 bloke who has some emotional connection to the car. Like when you were 20 you were lusted for one, and now you can afford the best of the best version, so value is not really considered.

It is expensive, yes, overpriced, well, it is in the "try to find another with the same miles and engine" type of situation
Thing is; it's a diesel. You kind of want one of those to have sat on the motorway for a decade. Fortunately it's the old PD and not the commonrail, but even so it's one of those cars where low milage is almost undesirable.
The low mileage 115 GT TDi I had for 18 months was the least reliable car I've ever owned by a significant margin. And I had a Corrado G60, run on a student's budget, for two years.

blue_haddock

1,363 posts

32 months

Saturday 27th February
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ambuletz said:
I don't understand who would ever buy this. It's not particularly a desirable car. it's not something you'll stow away in the hopes it's worth loads in 10years time either. You have to literally be someone who owned one of these, knows it inside out and absolutely love a basic golf to want to own it. but even then... for alot less money you could just buy something that has 70-100k on it with FSH.. and run it for just as long.
Quite simply vag-tax!

And how many MK4 this are still out there with relatively low miles and FSH?

Whilst the 1.9 TD MK4 isn't exactly the best golf ever made, i think if this was sold for around £5k and kept clean, tidy and with low miles would probably return a reasonable profit.


carlove

6,671 posts

132 months

Sunday 28th February
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This 2018 £38k Jimny popped up as a sponsored ad on Facebook. It's not on AutoTrader, but the most expensive there was a £30k 70 plate without a load of tat stuck on. Most expensive 2018 Jimny is £24k, is the Liberty Walk tat worth £14k?

https://www.yesauto.com/uk/buy/detail/144702/1671?...


I'm a big fan of the Jimny, but this one not only looks st, but also is a crazy price for a Jimny.

OllieJolly

225 posts

81 months

Sunday 28th February
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blue_haddock said:
Quite simply vag-tax!

And how many MK4 this are still out there with relatively low miles and FSH?

Whilst the 1.9 TD MK4 isn't exactly the best golf ever made, i think if this was sold for around £5k and kept clean, tidy and with low miles would probably return a reasonable profit.
It doesn't really have full service history with the last timing belt being almost 10 years ago though, does it?
Or rather, it may well have full receipts/stamps/etc as "history" but honestly I don't think that means much for this example.
I just don't think this is a particularly attractive vehicle for £7k, or even half that, personally.