One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3

[Bobberoo99]

I know that this has been covered on here many times, but after having driven 1450 miles over the last week to Scotland and back, MLM's are prevelant more from the Midlands down than they are from there up, and another thing, why do people insist on slowly overtaking but as you approach a slower moving vehicle in the inside lane they neither speed up slow down or pull into the outside lane, they just amble past at the same speed slack jawed and vacant forcing you to slow down and pull out behind them, and another thing why can't people maintain a speed, they overtake, pull in and slow down forcing you to overtake them, THEN they speed up!?!?!?
I'm sure Yellowjack or one or more of the pedantry and self righteous brigade will be along in a while telling me it's all my fault and that I'm the problem!!!

[yellowjack]

Bobberoo99 said:

I know that this has been covered on here many times, but after having driven 1450 miles over the last week to Scotland and back, MLM's are prevelant more from the Midlands down than they are from there up, and another thing, why do people insist on slowly overtaking but as you approach a slower moving vehicle in the inside lane they neither speed up slow down or pull into the outside lane, they just amble past at the same speed slack jawed and vacant forcing you to slow down and pull out behind them, and another thing why can't people maintain a speed, they overtake, pull in and slow down forcing you to overtake them, THEN they speed up!?!?!?
I'm sure Yellowjack or one or more of the pedantry and self righteous brigade will be along in a while telling me it's all my fault and that I'm the problem!!!

Absolutely not chief.

I'm with you on this one every step of the way.

Want to overtake me? Fine. Get the fk on with it. I don't want you hanging out alongside me creeping past at +1 mph over my speed. But the same happens on single carriageways when I'm cycling. Car pulls out, car speeds up. Car pulls alongside and matches my speed for 5 to 10 seconds, then driver wakes up and car fks off into the distance. Why? Just get the fk on with it. Overtaking is simple. Look, assess, act. Don't wait until you are alongside me to put the pedal down, do it from the moment you move out into the other lane. You don't want to be held up by me, I don't want you behind me, so pass and go away and we're all happy.

The inability to maintain speed on a motorway pisses me off too. I get onto the motorway, pick a speed to suit conditions,set it on my electronic limiter and keep to it unless the traffic situation changes. So I end up passing a few cars dawdling along in Lane 1, only a short while later to have them hammer past me in lane 3. Then they seem to doze off again, their speed falls off a cliff and in order to keep making progress I have to pass them again. The bar was set pretty high on this one by a battered old blue Transit van on the M40. We traded placed more than a dozen times in the 35 or so miles between the A43 and the A404. For clarity, I spent most of that section chilled out at about 75 mph in lane 1 while the Transit played MLM all the way down. I wasn't at all bothered by the Transit driver or what he was doing, other than to be mildly amused by observing him and counting the times we exchanged places...

[yellowjack]

Meanwhile, in and around Farnborough...

There was a recent accident on the A30. One fatality, a 17 year-old boy. Two arrests on "suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving" - a 16 year old and a 15 year old according to local press sources. A 24 year old woman in the other car injured.

Knob! awards to the cretins who thought it OK to drive without licences. Knob! awards to their parents for either not knowing what they were up to, or not caring.

Further knob! awards to the two teenagers riding a moped down Sandy Lane on Saturday morning, not a fortnight after the fatal crash, both without helmets.

And Knob! awards all round to the journalists and editors who decide that the story of the fatal crash on the A30 is not worth following up. The local press ought to be jumping all over this, and in fact ALL serious collisions, passing on the facts so that we other drivers who use that road regularly can work out why these collisions occur, and what we might need to do differently to avoid a similar one.

Furthermore, a life has been lost, and the two cretins arrested on suspicion of being the cause are not being hounded by the national press, nor are there calls for new kneejerk legislation to enact changes in the law. Why? The Charlie Alliston manslaughter trial was all over the national press with calls for the creation of a new offence. Yet the existence of such an offence in this case, and the fact that neither of those arrested were legally permitted behind the wheel on a public road didn't stop this death.

But of course this is "just another road death" when it's a car doing the killing. Fking calm the fk down on the roads people. Because Charlie Alliston was a "cyclist" the furore over what in reality was "just another road death" was a pathetic outpouring of billious, biased, anti-cyclist hatred. Anyone who isn't equally angry or horrified by two tts dicking about in a car and killing someone doesn't have an opinion worth listening to, in my opinion. The danger posed by motor vehicles, as has been stated before, is far higher than that posed by bicycles, no matter how badly ridden they may be. Anyone who can't see that, and direct their anger at where it will do most good? They're knobs too.

[Bobberoo99]

yellowjack said:

Bobberoo99 said:

I know that this has been covered on here many times, but after having driven 1450 miles over the last week to Scotland and back, MLM's are prevelant more from the Midlands down than they are from there up, and another thing, why do people insist on slowly overtaking but as you approach a slower moving vehicle in the inside lane they neither speed up slow down or pull into the outside lane, they just amble past at the same speed slack jawed and vacant forcing you to slow down and pull out behind them, and another thing why can't people maintain a speed, they overtake, pull in and slow down forcing you to overtake them, THEN they speed up!?!?!?
I'm sure Yellowjack or one or more of the pedantry and self righteous brigade will be along in a while telling me it's all my fault and that I'm the problem!!!

Absolutely not chief.

I'm with you on this one every step of the way.

Want to overtake me? Fine. Get the fk on with it. I don't want you hanging out alongside me creeping past at +1 mph over my speed. But the same happens on single carriageways when I'm cycling. Car pulls out, car speeds up. Car pulls alongside and matches my speed for 5 to 10 seconds, then driver wakes up and car fks off into the distance. Why? Just get the fk on with it. Overtaking is simple. Look, assess, act. Don't wait until you are alongside me to put the pedal down, do it from the moment you move out into the other lane. You don't want to be held up by me, I don't want you behind me, so pass and go away and we're all happy.

The inability to maintain speed on a motorway pisses me off too. I get onto the motorway, pick a speed to suit conditions,set it on my electronic limiter and keep to it unless the traffic situation changes. So I end up passing a few cars dawdling along in Lane 1, only a short while later to have them hammer past me in lane 3. Then they seem to doze off again, their speed falls off a cliff and in order to keep making progress I have to pass them again. The bar was set pretty high on this one by a battered old blue Transit van on the M40. We traded placed more than a dozen times in the 35 or so miles between the A43 and the A404. For clarity, I spent most of that section chilled out at about 75 mph in lane 1 while the Transit played MLM all the way down. I wasn't at all bothered by the Transit driver or what he was doing, other than to be mildly amused by observing him and counting the times we exchanged places...

Thanks for agreeing couldn't believe the difference between north and south in the way people drive! Also agree with what you said about getting around cyclists pull out speed up bugger off everyone's happy!!
And I didn't know about the fatal accident those two scrotes should never see the light of day again!!!

[anonymous-user]

Knobs at Urban Truck, for deciding the correct setting for their poncey little replacement LED brake and indicator lights on the back of a tarted up Defender I followed near Wallingford today is ONE MILLION LUMENS. Dazzling on an overcast morning, god knows what it would be like sat behind them in traffic at night.

[anonymous-user]

yellowjack said:

Meanwhile, in and around Farnborough...

There was a recent accident on the A30. One fatality, a 17 year-old boy. Two arrests on "suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving" - a 16 year old and a 15 year old according to local press sources. A 24 year old woman in the other car injured.

Knob! awards to the cretins who thought it OK to drive without licences. Knob! awards to their parents for either not knowing what they were up to, or not caring.

Further knob! awards to the two teenagers riding a moped down Sandy Lane on Saturday morning, not a fortnight after the fatal crash, both without helmets.

And Knob! awards all round to the journalists and editors who decide that the story of the fatal crash on the A30 is not worth following up. The local press ought to be jumping all over this, and in fact ALL serious collisions, passing on the facts so that we other drivers who use that road regularly can work out why these collisions occur, and what we might need to do differently to avoid a similar one.

Furthermore, a life has been lost, and the two cretins arrested on suspicion of being the cause are not being hounded by the national press, nor are there calls for new kneejerk legislation to enact changes in the law. Why? The Charlie Alliston manslaughter trial was all over the national press with calls for the creation of a new offence. Yet the existence of such an offence in this case, and the fact that neither of those arrested were legally permitted behind the wheel on a public road didn't stop this death.

But of course this is "just another road death" when it's a car doing the killing. Fking calm the fk down on the roads people. Because Charlie Alliston was a "cyclist" the furore over what in reality was "just another road death" was a pathetic outpouring of billious, biased, anti-cyclist hatred. Anyone who isn't equally angry or horrified by two tts dicking about in a car and killing someone doesn't have an opinion worth listening to, in my opinion. The danger posed by motor vehicles, as has been stated before, is far higher than that posed by bicycles, no matter how badly ridden they may be. Anyone who can't see that, and direct their anger at where it will do most good? They're knobs too.

Zzzzzzzzz, more biased drivel from the militant pro cycling lobby on PH! Newsflash Alliston was not singled out because he was a cyclist, but because he was a ****! Please try and understand that... if indeed you can!

[BlueHave]

I know Baby on Board are usually used by some to excuse bad driving and those on a sight seeing tour driving at a snails pace.

I think today I have witnessed a whole new level which screams 'knob'

Twins on Board signs, which in my view is almost an admission of terrible driving because they have two small screaming humans in the back seat.

[ashleyman]

Imagine cars parked on a road.

The knobs are the people who open the doors INTO traffic without looking or thinking about the cars on the road. KNOBS

[Integroo]

Liquid Knight said:

maccas99 said:

30% of cars on the road this morning with no lights on (DRL's don't count as the rears are just as important) in the driving rain. One twunt in a Nissan XTrail demo thing had no lights on and was holding his phone in front of him to talk. Fricking idiot, just pair it with the car and use hands free. So many thick people about these days.

Only 30% the Police must be doing a crack down where you are.

I think they should set up a road block and anyone/everyone with only DRL's, side lights or no lights should be fined, given six points and have CD-10 tattooed across their worthless faces.

Just have it like they do in some countries: lights must always be on. I had been in Abania for twenty minutes, 2pm, 37 C, blazing sunshine, when I got pulled over by Balkan rozzers for not having my lights on.

[PBCD]

Spumfry said:

...for deciding the correct setting for their poncey little replacement LED brake and indicator lights on the back of a tarted up Defender I followed near Wallingford today is ONE MILLION LUMENS.

[yellowjack]

cb1965 said:

yellowjack said:

Meanwhile, in and around Farnborough...

There was a recent accident on the A30. One fatality, a 17 year-old boy. Two arrests on "suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving" - a 16 year old and a 15 year old according to local press sources. A 24 year old woman in the other car injured.

Knob! awards to the cretins who thought it OK to drive without licences. Knob! awards to their parents for either not knowing what they were up to, or not caring.

Further knob! awards to the two teenagers riding a moped down Sandy Lane on Saturday morning, not a fortnight after the fatal crash, both without helmets.

And Knob! awards all round to the journalists and editors who decide that the story of the fatal crash on the A30 is not worth following up. The local press ought to be jumping all over this, and in fact ALL serious collisions, passing on the facts so that we other drivers who use that road regularly can work out why these collisions occur, and what we might need to do differently to avoid a similar one.

Furthermore, a life has been lost, and the two cretins arrested on suspicion of being the cause are not being hounded by the national press, nor are there calls for new kneejerk legislation to enact changes in the law. Why? The Charlie Alliston manslaughter trial was all over the national press with calls for the creation of a new offence. Yet the existence of such an offence in this case, and the fact that neither of those arrested were legally permitted behind the wheel on a public road didn't stop this death.

But of course this is "just another road death" when it's a car doing the killing. Fking calm the fk down on the roads people. Because Charlie Alliston was a "cyclist" the furore over what in reality was "just another road death" was a pathetic outpouring of billious, biased, anti-cyclist hatred. Anyone who isn't equally angry or horrified by two tts dicking about in a car and killing someone doesn't have an opinion worth listening to, in my opinion. The danger posed by motor vehicles, as has been stated before, is far higher than that posed by bicycles, no matter how badly ridden they may be. Anyone who can't see that, and direct their anger at where it will do most good? They're knobs too.

Zzzzzzzzz, more biased drivel from the militant pro cycling lobby on PH! Newsflash Alliston was not singled out because he was a cyclist, but because he was a ****! Please try and understand that... if indeed you can!

Biased how, exactly? I just want to know why the entire internet seems to have wanted Charlie Alliston to hang from a gibbet on Tower Hill, yet when two ****s get behind the wheel of a car they are not allowed to drive and go out and kill another teenager, and involve someone in another car too, the whole sordid saga nets nothing more than a brief summary of the collision on a local newspaper website.

If you can't see that it's a far greater risk to your safety and mine when cars are driven badly (like the idiot I mentioned recently who pulled out from behind me in a shabby Vectra at a red light and drove straight through a crossroads against a red light) than when a bicycle is ridden badly, then YOU are a part of the problem, and certainly fit the profile of "not having an opinion worthy of consideration".

Why aren't people rushing out on high horses to tell the world that it's unacceptable that the law failed to prevent the death of a teenager locally? It seems that they do not care. Why are Daily Mail columnists not driving forward a campaign to ensure that the two scrotes arrested in connection with this fatal collision have the book thrown at them? Answer - because it's "just another road death" and these things are shrugged off by the general public as somehow "a risk worth taking to ensure MY freedom to drive a car". But if this, and other collisions, are accepted as "part of the risk" of using the roads, then it would be fair and equitable to treat the death of Kim Briggs as "just another tragic, but unavoidable" road death.

I don't accept that either were unavoidable, nor do they constitute a "risk worth taking". I do not seek to defend Charlie Alliston either. He has a disgusting attitude and a face I would never tire of punching. But why the histrionic venom from members of the public commenting on that case? Especially when compared to any other single case of death on our roads caused by an incidence of dangerous driving? All I'm suggesting is that if you're going to light the torches and sharpen the pitchforks for a rogue cyclist, then you MUST also be prepared to do the same for EVERY case where a rogue driver kills, or face being laughed at as a complete hypocrite.

[anonymous-user]

yellowjack said:

cb1965 said:

yellowjack said:

Meanwhile, in and around Farnborough...

There was a recent accident on the A30. One fatality, a 17 year-old boy. Two arrests on "suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving" - a 16 year old and a 15 year old according to local press sources. A 24 year old woman in the other car injured.

Knob! awards to the cretins who thought it OK to drive without licences. Knob! awards to their parents for either not knowing what they were up to, or not caring.

Further knob! awards to the two teenagers riding a moped down Sandy Lane on Saturday morning, not a fortnight after the fatal crash, both without helmets.

And Knob! awards all round to the journalists and editors who decide that the story of the fatal crash on the A30 is not worth following up. The local press ought to be jumping all over this, and in fact ALL serious collisions, passing on the facts so that we other drivers who use that road regularly can work out why these collisions occur, and what we might need to do differently to avoid a similar one.

Furthermore, a life has been lost, and the two cretins arrested on suspicion of being the cause are not being hounded by the national press, nor are there calls for new kneejerk legislation to enact changes in the law. Why? The Charlie Alliston manslaughter trial was all over the national press with calls for the creation of a new offence. Yet the existence of such an offence in this case, and the fact that neither of those arrested were legally permitted behind the wheel on a public road didn't stop this death.

But of course this is "just another road death" when it's a car doing the killing. Fking calm the fk down on the roads people. Because Charlie Alliston was a "cyclist" the furore over what in reality was "just another road death" was a pathetic outpouring of billious, biased, anti-cyclist hatred. Anyone who isn't equally angry or horrified by two tts dicking about in a car and killing someone doesn't have an opinion worth listening to, in my opinion. The danger posed by motor vehicles, as has been stated before, is far higher than that posed by bicycles, no matter how badly ridden they may be. Anyone who can't see that, and direct their anger at where it will do most good? They're knobs too.

Zzzzzzzzz, more biased drivel from the militant pro cycling lobby on PH! Newsflash Alliston was not singled out because he was a cyclist, but because he was a ****! Please try and understand that... if indeed you can!

Biased how, exactly? I just want to know why the entire internet seems to have wanted Charlie Alliston to hang from a gibbet on Tower Hill, yet when two ****s get behind the wheel of a car they are not allowed to drive and go out and kill another teenager, and involve someone in another car too, the whole sordid saga nets nothing more than a brief summary of the collision on a local newspaper website.

If you can't see that it's a far greater risk to your safety and mine when cars are driven badly (like the idiot I mentioned recently who pulled out from behind me in a shabby Vectra at a red light and drove straight through a crossroads against a red light) than when a bicycle is ridden badly, then YOU are a part of the problem, and certainly fit the profile of "not having an opinion worthy of consideration".

Why aren't people rushing out on high horses to tell the world that it's unacceptable that the law failed to prevent the death of a teenager locally? It seems that they do not care. Why are Daily Mail columnists not driving forward a campaign to ensure that the two scrotes arrested in connection with this fatal collision have the book thrown at them? Answer - because it's "just another road death" and these things are shrugged off by the general public as somehow "a risk worth taking to ensure MY freedom to drive a car". But if this, and other collisions, are accepted as "part of the risk" of using the roads, then it would be fair and equitable to treat the death of Kim Briggs as "just another tragic, but unavoidable" road death.

I don't accept that either were unavoidable, nor do they constitute a "risk worth taking". I do not seek to defend Charlie Alliston either. He has a disgusting attitude and a face I would never tire of punching. But why the histrionic venom from members of the public commenting on that case? Especially when compared to any other single case of death on our roads caused by an incidence of dangerous driving? All I'm suggesting is that if you're going to light the torches and sharpen the pitchforks for a rogue cyclist, then you MUST also be prepared to do the same for EVERY case where a rogue driver kills, or face being laughed at as a complete hypocrite.

You probably need to get some anger management help and a sense of perspective.

Of course anyone normal condemns people acting irresponsibly and causing injuries and death no matter how they do it, but the media love to find something out of the ordinary to latch on to and whip up a storm about. That is part of the issue here.

Where Alliston didn't help himself was by a) deliberately choosing to ride an illegal bike on the road and boasting about it and b) showing no remorse, in fact the opposite over the death he caused.

Combine that lot together and you can see why it's such a **** storm, but it has little to do with him being a cyclist and you and your ilk could do to stop playing the persecution card about it as it just makes things worse!

[Antony Moxey]

cb1965 said:

it has little to do with him being a cyclist and you and your ilk could do to stop playing the persecution card about it as it just makes things worse!

I'm going to agree with Yellowjack here on this one, I think it's exactly because it's a cyclist that's caused a death that there's been so much coverage.

[anonymous-user]

Antony Moxey said:

I'm going to agree with Yellowjack here on this one, I think it's exactly because it's a cyclist that's caused a death that there's been so much coverage.

Nope, it's because he's an utter ****!

[Antony Moxey]

cb1965 said:

Antony Moxey said:

I'm going to agree with Yellowjack here on this one, I think it's exactly because it's a cyclist that's caused a death that there's been so much coverage.

Nope, it's because he's an utter ****!

Agree that he's an utter whatever, but I suspect had said whatever driven an illegal car that killed a pedestrian that stepped out in front of him and he acted the same afterwards the furore would have been nowhere near as intense.

[anonymous-user]

Antony Moxey said:

Agree that he's an utter whatever, but I suspect had said whatever driven an illegal car that killed a pedestrian that stepped out in front of him and he acted the same afterwards the furore would have been nowhere near as intense.

I suspect if the motorist deliberately chose to have no front brakes, posted about it online, blamed the victim and then had the media had go to town on it then the furore would be exactly the same. The 'poor persecuted cyclist' card is wearing very thin on this!

[anonymous-user]

Everyone who drives a german car in any city centre.
Sick of them.
Aggressive, speeding, weaving.

[Blanchimont]

Pulled up a shop, and was backing up to tidy up as I only swung in.
Idiot in a Golf pulls in behind into the gap I was mid-way reversing into. Called him a knob (to myself, windows closed), tidied it up a little and then went into the shop.

Coming back out the pleb in a Golf diesel estate said "mate, your cars french" I simply said "How very observant of you, what's your point?" "He said something about it being st". Bewildered, I said back "Funny that, you're driving your Mums Golf, or did you actually buy that with money?" He gruffed, and got into his car and drove off, flicking me the V.

Odd experience, I got back in the car, found the Mrs giggling, and drove off.

[Solocle]

The absolute, utter turd in a white van in oxford. One of these rare places where bicycles travel faster than cars. So naturally, he’s sat over the solid white line cycle lane (3 points?). No matter, he’s stationary, offside clear. I can pass him. Of course, the lights change. So he then proceeds to match my speed, rather than just pass. I doubt he’s an alumnus. Of course, traffic stops again, after I’ve finally managed to fall behind him. I did feint hitting his mirror as I passed, I will admit.
First class small knob syndrome.

[Jim AK]

tt in a Black A6 on A406 tonight.

He joined A406 heading West from Walthamstow, road is from 2 to 3 lane where he joins, slip becomes L1 but throbber man heads straight for L2, which i`m in as I came under the junction.

Its a 50 limit but this is travelling at about 45 so I have to brake from 50 as L3 is occupied & my Range Rover would probably make a bit of a mess of his stty Audi.

At this moment the prick spots the speed camera, we are still in the 50 & he`s doing 45, so he brakes again as he obviously had no idea of the posted limit. No biggie as L3 is empty so I pull out & start to gain on him.

I notice 2 things. 1 he`s taking a fag out of a packet & hes started to accelerate.

We pass the camera & he then goes off like a stabbed rat....... .

Overtook him again just before Edmonton Tunnel as he was back to 45 MPH or less!!

How do these fktards get & retain a licence?