RE: Honda Civic Type R: Driven

RE: Honda Civic Type R: Driven

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SaqibCTR

250 posts

72 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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I hope they make a Jap market (JDM) saloon version that looks better. I could be in once prices fall a little.

What do you guys make of Honda's finance deals in comparison to their rivals?

Butter Face

17,976 posts

98 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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I love it, I just can't see that many getting sold @ 30k (33k by the time you've put a GT pack and metallic paint on)


Hopefully in 10 years I can buy one like I've done with the EP3 hehe

StottyEvo

6,711 posts

101 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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It sounds like they've pulled it off, although I'll have to give it a 9/10 for the 7,000rpm limiter! It sounds like they've gone with quite a large turbo as it comes on full boost at 2,700rpm, I imagine the only reason it doesn't rev more is because boost and revs are very difficult to master when it comes to reliability.

As the article outlines the cars eagerness at 6,000rpm+ I hope and imagine one of the first mods along with turning the power up will be raising the limiter.

cava

127 posts

97 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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Studio117 said:
I just can't like any of these turbo hatches no matter how competent and fun to drive they may be. They all sound like utter crap.

sleep
+1

Actus Reus

3,441 posts

93 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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Even the interior is ghastly - think these are going to have a bit of an image problem to be honest. I'd take the Golf, Renault or BM every single time.
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Theophany

1,060 posts

68 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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Looks like a damn fine alternative to the usual post-imaginationectomy patients with their VAG motors.

It's also given me a snigger to see how people faun over a Lamborghini looking utterly mental and being completely impractical, yet bemoan a Jap hot hatch of all things for daring to do the same. laugh

MikeGoodwin

1,394 posts

55 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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Well i think it looks silly!

Would I fk be seen dead in that. Im not 19 years old anymore.

otolith

36,685 posts

142 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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It's interesting how many people think that the only buyers with enough disposable income to buy something like this will be small-c conservative middle class professionals who would rather have something more anonymous. Plenty of people from other walks of life with a bit of cash in their pocket and no qualms about driving something a bit blue collar that looks a bit lairy. Same sort of people who bought Escort Cosworths.

pjfamilyguy1

632 posts

70 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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Guvernator said:
Have to agree with this. Sounds like someone (other than Subaru) has finally made a turbo engine exciting again AND it's got a cracking manual gearbox. Just a shame then that it looks absolutely woeful. If I was 20 years younger I'd have probably loved it, now I'd just feel like a tt.

We are looking for a daily driver for family duties and I find things like the Golf R just sleep inducing but this, my word, 4 exhausts! How does the lead engineer justify that in his function over form mantra?

Could have convinced the missus that this would make a fine daily driver\family wagon, it has 5 doors and hatchback practicality, then I could have nicked the keys at every opportunity but looking like it does I think she'd just laugh in my face and I would have to agree. Shame as the looks mean they've missed out on a definite order and I suspect I'm not the only one.

Honda can you please please make a car with this engine and drive train but not make it look like it was designed by Ali G.
clap I have to agree, it might be my age aswell, but a less subtle version or in an accord would be better imho

Mr. Potato Head

1,094 posts

157 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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zerovira said:
I just think... why?

I really don't get the point of uber hot hatches.

For me the ideal point of FWD cars is the fox terrier french approach of small, light cars with a big (but not enormous) engine. Clio 172 for example.

I truly think this is too much for the road, and if I was looking for something for the track I wouldn't look for a FWD hatch...

I mean I am sure is insanely fast, and it can be even fun, but it is not the kind of fun I am looking for.

Looking forward for a hot twingo, hoping the 'pocket rocket' fever starts again aided by low pricing (in comparison to nowadays hot hatches), less insurance and more 'real road' talent.

I truly do not think that pushing this to the limit on a normal road is even advisable. Too fast, too much weight, too much everything.

Maybe cars are hitting the same point motorbikes hit long ago, where a liter sportsbike is insanely fast for the road and even a 600 supersport is slightly too much?

I hope that some of the supermoto ethos comes into cars: focusing on fun bar performance.
Yeah this

knebworth01

53 posts

58 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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What the hell is wrong with all you people? Since when has a true petrolhead been so bothered by brand and the way a car looks?
TVR, Impreza, Nissan GTR - all challenging looking beasts but great engineering and real drivers machines.
Hats off to Honda, keeping in the tradition of great engineering and two fingers up to the German white goods brigade!
I'm not a 'chav' and dont tend to veer towards the tacky things in life, but I for one will be buying one of these. Loads of space for my kids, stands out from the crowd, goes like stink and built to last.
Well done the big H!

Ali_T

3,277 posts

195 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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knebworth01 said:
What the hell is wrong with all you people? Since when has a true petrolhead been so bothered by brand and the way a car looks?
So a true petrolhead are happy to that everyone thinks they're a nobend chav? Gotcha. In that case I'm a false petrolhead.

Edited by Ali_T on Wednesday 3rd June 12:00

Bradley1500

766 posts

84 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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I was worried with turbo-charging the car would turn into a facsimile of the many German offerings. Their engines can feel lazy as you’ve got power throughout the rev range, rather than the frantic surge at the top end you enjoy with VTEC engines.

From the sounds of the article this isn’t the case, which is fantastic.

As with the FN2 I suspect the aesthetics will be love or hate. Personally I like it. It’s bold and makes a statement, it might not be for everyone but at least it is different.

The Focus RS is similarly outlandish with big spoilers and arches, but has sold well.

StottyEvo said:
As the article outlines the cars eagerness at 6,000rpm+ I hope and imagine one of the first mods along with turning the power up will be raising the limiter.
The K20A engine with just breathing modifications and a remap can be taken over 9000RPM safely from the standard 8250 limiter, thus I imagine it won’t be long before people are tuning these similarly.

Edited by Bradley1500 on Wednesday 3rd June 11:52


Edited by Bradley1500 on Wednesday 3rd June 11:52

KarlMac

2,912 posts

79 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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Its the first Honda I've liked since the NSX. I know its hamstrung by the standard cars looks but the rear 3/4 is awful. Looks like it was trapped between a hatch/saloon and ended up like the Prius, doing neither very well.

Would love to see the JDM saloon/coupe version as the front looks great.

Roger Irrelevant

1,161 posts

51 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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I like it, and I can't believe how many people are having a go at a hot hatch for looking a bit lairy (on PH of all places!). Maybe it's because I actually am a reasonably successful middle-class professional that I don't feel the need to look like one by driving a bland car. This has joined a very short list of cars that I'd actually consider buying new (which doesn't include a Golf R, Focus or BMW).

HorneyMX5

4,380 posts

88 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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Ali_T said:
So true petrolhead are happy to that everyone thinks they're a nobend chav? Gotcha. In that case I'm a false petrolhead.
I live in a town full of chavs and I can tell you that what none of them drive is a brand new £30k+ hot hatch. They all drive old scoobs, EP3 typers, Audi S3s and Audi S4s all of which are normally covered in stickers and dents.

Having one of these new TypeRs parked on your Bovis middle class driveway just says "I liek cars, I like fast cars, I like shouty cars." Nothing wrong with that, certaily doesn't make you look like a mouth breathing loser who breeds for a living.

gashead1105

392 posts

91 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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I still really like it and will happily acknowledge that it thoroughly appeals to my inner chav!

Matt Bird

1,035 posts

143 months

PH Reportery Lad

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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cava said:
Studio117 said:
I just can't like any of these turbo hatches no matter how competent and fun to drive they may be. They all sound like utter crap.

sleep
+1
Please, please go and drive one. They really aren't.

Ali_T

3,277 posts

195 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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HorneyMX5 said:
Having one of these new TypeRs parked on your Bovis middle class driveway just says "I liek cars, I like fast cars, I like shouty cars." Nothing wrong with that, certaily doesn't make you look like a mouth breathing loser who breeds for a living.
You might want to ask your neighbours. That might be what you think they're thinking. The reality is, they're thinking "will you look at what that nobend has bought now...."

zoom star

481 posts

89 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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I think they had this car at Castle Coombe last bank holiday monday.
There was a huge Honda,lorry,and crew.
There was a Honda endurance race on the days race sheet, although it was very much made up of other makes.
I thought it was the BTTC cars back, as they had Sheddons car there last year.
This car did 2 laps and was supposed to be very secretly unveiled, andwewere honoured to see it.
It was plain red,no stickers,badges,etc. very plain.
To be fair it went like stink,and where we were, you could really hear the turbo sing..
My 23 year old who is a Honda fan loved it,he also has the income to buy it,in this day and age,some youngsters have very good jobs,and income and I think the day of pitching to older people is long gone.