What are the laws on unused cars kept on public roads

What are the laws on unused cars kept on public roads

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Pica-Pica

13,867 posts

85 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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With most Councils you can report abandoned cars on line. I had a Renault Traffic parked/abandoned outside with no MOT. It was removed in two days.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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Vocal Minority said:
I know its an aside but as the question has been broadly answered already.....why?! The net result is a car outside their house be it theirs or someone else's....they clearly don't need the space as all they use it for is storing a car they never use....with the express purpose of stopping other people using it.....

The only difference being this one looks (presumably) a lot crapper than one in constant use. The only viable reason I can think of is noise from it starting - but how intolerant of others going about their business do you have to be? I can't think of a security angle....

The narrowness of some minds astounds me...
"you do not own the bit of road outside your house"

seems lost on most people.

AmaSmi

6 posts

74 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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xjay1337 said:
"you do not own the bit of road outside your house"

seems lost on most people.
Exactly. It doesn't matter who owns the darn car parked outside your house, as long as it's parked considerately, has valid Tax & MOT. I don't get it that some people get so bent out of shape about this issue.

LarsG

991 posts

76 months

Wednesday 14th March 2018
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xjay1337 said:
Vocal Minority said:
I know its an aside but as the question has been broadly answered already.....why?! The net result is a car outside their house be it theirs or someone else's....they clearly don't need the space as all they use it for is storing a car they never use....with the express purpose of stopping other people using it.....

The only difference being this one looks (presumably) a lot crapper than one in constant use. The only viable reason I can think of is noise from it starting - but how intolerant of others going about their business do you have to be? I can't think of a security angle....

The narrowness of some minds astounds me...
"you do not own the bit of road outside your house"

seems lost on most people.
Had a neighbour who let their tyres down if they did. In Speke on the outskirts of Liverpool they are plagued by holiday makers leaving their cars on the roads of the estate so they tag them with spray paint.

Hoofy

76,430 posts

283 months

Wednesday 14th March 2018
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LarsG said:
xjay1337 said:
Vocal Minority said:
I know its an aside but as the question has been broadly answered already.....why?! The net result is a car outside their house be it theirs or someone else's....they clearly don't need the space as all they use it for is storing a car they never use....with the express purpose of stopping other people using it.....

The only difference being this one looks (presumably) a lot crapper than one in constant use. The only viable reason I can think of is noise from it starting - but how intolerant of others going about their business do you have to be? I can't think of a security angle....

The narrowness of some minds astounds me...
"you do not own the bit of road outside your house"

seems lost on most people.
Had a neighbour who let their tyres down if they did. In Speke on the outskirts of Liverpool they are plagued by holiday makers leaving their cars on the roads of the estate so they tag them with spray paint.
Mental. Insurance premiums must be a nightmare for the residents what with car crime through the roof.

Triumph Man

8,708 posts

169 months

Wednesday 14th March 2018
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loose cannon said:
We’re is the picture of said old car I’m intrigued to see it in all its glory and what it is ?
With the attitudes of some, you don't know if "very old" is 1972 or 2002

Fiver says it is/was a 1996 Ford Escort.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Wednesday 14th March 2018
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There's a balance to be struck though, as ever.

Of course everyone likes to be able to park as conveniently as possible, and so wherever possible, will park outside their house if they don't have a driveway/garage/valet.

To complain about someone else using the space when you aren't there, or using it, is not on.

But at some point, leaving your car unmoved for a long, long period of time outside someone else's house, or to the inconvenience of many other people, is just inconsiderate and a dick move. Why be a dick on purpose, right?

Residential streets are just that - for residents, and their guests etc. They shouldn't be for the people who are leaving their car unattended for a fortnight to save on the cost of parking at the airport, or for your neighbour to leave their car and not move it for several weeks right at the exit of your driveway instead of further up the road where there are no driveways to block - as one of my neighbours did for 7 weeks earlier this year with their daughter's car whilst they were on holiday. Said neighbour chose to ignore me when I knocked on their door to politely ask them to move it, and ignored the polite note I gave.

Hoofy

76,430 posts

283 months

Wednesday 14th March 2018
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Shakermaker said:
There's a balance to be struck though, as ever.

Of course everyone likes to be able to park as conveniently as possible, and so wherever possible, will park outside their house if they don't have a driveway/garage/valet.

To complain about someone else using the space when you aren't there, or using it, is not on.

But at some point, leaving your car unmoved for a long, long period of time outside someone else's house, or to the inconvenience of many other people, is just inconsiderate and a dick move. Why be a dick on purpose, right?

Residential streets are just that - for residents, and their guests etc. They shouldn't be for the people who are leaving their car unattended for a fortnight to save on the cost of parking at the airport, or for your neighbour to leave their car and not move it for several weeks right at the exit of your driveway instead of further up the road where there are no driveways to block - as one of my neighbours did for 7 weeks earlier this year with their daughter's car whilst they were on holiday. Said neighbour chose to ignore me when I knocked on their door to politely ask them to move it, and ignored the polite note I gave.
I don't care if
(1) they don't park it like a dick even if they park directly outside my house
(2) their car alarm system isn't malfunctioning keeping the neighbours awake for 3 nights...

jeremyh1

1,364 posts

128 months

Wednesday 14th March 2018
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We should all remember we only own the bit that is on the deeds

We dont own the road unless it is on the deeds .

I dont know why so many people want beef with their neighbors Dont you have a local boxing club or something

LarsG

991 posts

76 months

Wednesday 14th March 2018
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A car kept on a public road requires an MOT where necessary, Tax and Insurance. A car left in a garage or lockup also requires Tax and Insurance unless you have made a SORN statement. Note that this vehicle can still be used on private land. However if the vehicle is put back in the road it will require Tax and Insurance and an MOT. You have the right to transport it to the MOT facility. As Tax cannot be purchased without a valid MOT and Insurance, it remains illegal to keep the vehicle on the road without all three items.

Some vehicles are tax exempt but this still means you have to have the vehicle insured and MOT'd because you will still need to apply for the tax each year even if it is no cost. I think if the vehicle was registered before 8 Jan 1977 you can apply for the exemption.

cmvtec

2,188 posts

82 months

Wednesday 14th March 2018
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I recently moved from a street that was right outside the town centre with rows of Tyneside flats on it - 2 households per one house width, so 50% capacity if everyone owns a car. I was generally happy if I could get my car parked in the same street where my flat was, let alone outside the door! If I got in from a night shift later than 08:30 I would be left to walk some distance to my house, I later discovered most of the "day time" parkers were local Councillors from the town hall, and my street was the nearest one without parking restrictions (was resurfaced twice in two years though biggrin ) Only time I was ever inconvenienced parking further than a few car lengths from my door was if I had shopping to carry, but I just started doing my shopping at times when I knew I'd get reasonably near my house.

One resident used to get very defensive if you left your car outside his house, and would park very close etc. He never damaged the cars though.

Ultimately, I can't understand why people get so territorial; you're lucky to live on a street without restrictions.

Easternlight

3,437 posts

145 months

Wednesday 14th March 2018
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I heard old cars that are parked for too long can spontaneously combust.

whistle

Jag_NE

2,997 posts

101 months

Wednesday 14th March 2018
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Shakermaker said:
There's a balance to be struck though, as ever.

Of course everyone likes to be able to park as conveniently as possible, and so wherever possible, will park outside their house if they don't have a driveway/garage/valet.

To complain about someone else using the space when you aren't there, or using it, is not on.

But at some point, leaving your car unmoved for a long, long period of time outside someone else's house, or to the inconvenience of many other people, is just inconsiderate and a dick move. Why be a dick on purpose, right?

Residential streets are just that - for residents, and their guests etc. They shouldn't be for the people who are leaving their car unattended for a fortnight to save on the cost of parking at the airport, or for your neighbour to leave their car and not move it for several weeks right at the exit of your driveway instead of further up the road where there are no driveways to block - as one of my neighbours did for 7 weeks earlier this year with their daughter's car whilst they were on holiday. Said neighbour chose to ignore me when I knocked on their door to politely ask them to move it, and ignored the polite note I gave.
absolutely. people parking in the street and blocking pavements when they have unused allocated parking is my pet hate. just because something isnt illegal doesnt make it considerate behaviour.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Wednesday 14th March 2018
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Easternlight said:
I heard old cars that are parked for too long can spontaneously combust.

whistle
Not sure I'd want to live somewhere with feral arsonists. It must play hell with your insurance premiums.

Mandalore

4,220 posts

114 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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AmaSmi said:
xjay1337 said:
"you do not own the bit of road outside your house"

seems lost on most people.
Exactly. It doesn't matter who owns the darn car parked outside your house, as long as it's parked considerately, has valid Tax & MOT. I don't get it that some people get so bent out of shape about this issue.
You assume that all the people in the road will park considerately, when it's not their driveway, being blocked.

Some people are simply wkers and use the 'ownership' mantra as an excuse. For example, I have friends who's neighbour parks his large van in the smaller road space outside their house partially blocking their drive, because it also blocks the sunlight and he is open about the fact that he doesn't want that happening to his own house.




randomeddy

1,440 posts

138 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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AmaSmi said:
xjay1337 said:
"you do not own the bit of road outside your house"

seems lost on most people.
Exactly. It doesn't matter who owns the darn car parked outside your house, as long as it's parked considerately, has valid Tax & MOT. I don't get it that some people get so bent out of shape about this issue.
It is about something that is sadly lacking these days. It is called common courtesy.

IntriguedUser

989 posts

122 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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2 pages and no pictures still. I'll come back

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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Triumph Man said:
With the attitudes of some, you don't know if "very old" is 1972 or 2002

Fiver says it is/was a 1996 Ford Escort.
I don't think a 1996 Escort is over 50 years old yet

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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randomeddy said:
It is about something that is sadly lacking these days. It is called common courtesy.
It's courteous not to park on a public road that just so happens to be outside someones house?

Get over..

MB140

4,091 posts

104 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Easternlight said:
I heard old cars that are parked for too long can spontaneously combust.

whistle
Not sure I'd want to live somewhere with feral arsonists. It must play hell with your insurance premiums.
I’m sure the windows also have a habit of breaking for no reason and end up rolling in to the middle of the road blocking it. Councils tend to shift cars blocking the road pretty quick.