RE: Nissan BladeGlider: Review

RE: Nissan BladeGlider: Review

Wednesday 12th July 2017

Nissan BladeGlider: Review

The EV we really, really want Nissan to build



First: the bad news. Nissan is absolutely, definitely NOT putting this car into production. I know: we cry as one. The will-they-wont-they debate has raged ever since Nissan unveiled its electric prototype sports car at the Tokyo motor show in 2013. Since then, many have ridden, few have driven.

But your author got behind the wheel at the Goodwood circuit during the Festival of Speed. While everyone was clattering up the hillclimb in their noisy V8s and V12s, I glided silently for lap after lap in something that looked, sounded and felt like the immediate future; like the here and now, in fact. And then the man from Nissan put the kibosh on my flight of fancy and said "maybe in 10 or 15 years, but not now."


"We just want you to see and feel the potential" they said. "We wanted to demonstrate to enthusiasts that EVs are the answer to driving enjoyment." So they did all that, and we agreed, and then they whipped it away from under our noses.

Anyway, what does a proper electric sports car feel like to drive? Well, just look at it. Here is a car built for fun. Echoing Nissan's Le Mans DeltaWing car, it's shaped like a futuristic arrow, with a narrow front track and much wider rear, which gives it an aero advantage as well as some funky rear-wheel-drive cornering characteristics, more of which in a min. Huge dihedral doors, hinged at the rear of the car, cut off at waist height for even more drama.


Inside, that singular central driver's seat puts you at the heart of the action: you could be in a 2025 IndyCar race. When you're doing laps under instruction, it's a bit weird because the instructor's legs stretch down your lefthand side, but it's all part of the other-worldly experience.

The seats are covered in a textured black fabric with an epoxy resin coating for more grip, and there are two colour trims on offer - green and orange - which splash big accents of colour round the cockpit.

The driver's controls are all on the steering wheel: indicator buttons and two manettino switches, one to control the drive mode and one for variable amounts of traction. Flappy paddles add or subtract regenerative braking, although even in its maximum setting, we're not talking Tesla-style retardation, which is a good thing: the driver remains fully in control of braking, as is only proper in a sports car. Behind the wheel, the digital screen displays speed, battery charge, regeneration mode and torque mapping.


Out on track, you do nothing but fall further in love with this car. The silent drivetrain takes on a different vibe in a performance-led EV: combined with that open canopy, you have the sensation of gliding (that name's not all in vain then), and more chance to hear what the tyres are up to. It's a different way to surmise your speed round the track: no roaring revs, but an increasing whirr and more wind. I'd need more time to tell you whether I loved it or not: I think I missed gear changes more than anything.

Thankfully there's a lot of feedback through the chassis and steering to keep you involved in the experience: Nissan partnered with Williams Advanced Engineering for this prototype, so the handling is a little more, er, dynamic than that of the Leaf. The suspension is double wishbones all round, and it's a rewarding, pin-sharp drive. The rear tucks in or swings wide, depending on the torque setting you've selected: off, agile or drift mode. A positive torque vectoring system applies more torque to the outside wheel if it detects understeer. Even with no slack dialled in however, you've still got a lively chassis to play with: that wheelbase feels shorter than it looks and the rear tucks neatly in at the apex: it's a very linear, pretty idiot-proof drive.


Goodness knows why Nissan thinks we're not ready for a £30k electric sports car: this is the week Volvo has announced batteries in all its cars by 2019, France has set a date to abolish petrol and diesel engines and the Government has been charged with massively ramping up the infrastructure, with charging points in every one of the country's 8,500 fuel stations. Also, you'd pay way more than that for a dull electric saloon. Andy Palmer, CEO of Aston, called this car the "anti-establishment electric sports car" when he was at Nissan, and that was a fair while ago. He's right: it is the perfect antidote to every bog-boring Tesla, Nissan, Hyundai and Toyota EV out there.

For the love of god, change your minds Nissan and build the bloody thing.


NISSAN BLADEGLIDER PROTOTYPE
Engine
: 200kW battery, 2 x 130kW motors
Transmission: N/A, rear-wheel-drive
Power (hp): 268
Torque (lb ft): 521
0-62mph: est under 5.0sec
Top speed: 115mph
Weight: 1,300kg
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
Price: circa £30,000

 

 

 

 

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Some Gump

Original Poster:

12,705 posts

187 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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I shape the issue is that it wouldn't be 30k.

Agent XXX

1,248 posts

107 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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It doesn't exactly look very stable.

Kawasicki

13,094 posts

236 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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How does the narrow front track and the wide rear give an aero advantage?

Amanitin

423 posts

138 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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"200kW battery"

what does that mean?

GTEYE

2,096 posts

211 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Some Gump said:
I shape the issue is that it wouldn't be 30k.
£300,000 might be closer to reality....

But even if they did build it, would anyone actually buy it? I have my doubts...

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Meh. Does nothing for me.

cookie1600

2,126 posts

162 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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'there are two colour trims on offer'

How can there be, it's not being released for sale???

LordGrover

33,549 posts

213 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Well I like it.
Not sure I'd buy one though - which may be a problem for Nissan.

Krikkit

26,544 posts

182 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Kawasicki said:
How does the narrow front track and the wide rear give an aero advantage?
Because it lets you have more room to smooth and shape the airflow before going to the full cross-section.

jayemdoubleu

54 posts

91 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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LordGrover said:
Well I like it.
Not sure I'd buy one though - which may be a problem for Nissan.
Exactly the problem, and I guess that's the actual reason why Nissan aren't building it. How many people who want a sports car are prepared to forego the multitude of options at £30k with ICEs? Plus, there is not a chance this car would cost £30k. I think it was a figure plucked out of the air to whip up some interest, without any real intention of building it.

WCZ

10,537 posts

195 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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would add this to the fleet for £30k without thought, looks fun!

Debaser

6,001 posts

262 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Looks like it needs a much wider front track.

giveitfish

4,033 posts

215 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Debaser said:
Looks like it needs a much wider front track.
See endless debate about the Deltawing at Le Mans years ago. In short, it works.

sc0tt

18,054 posts

202 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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I read this as "Gall Bladder", now I can't unsee it.

culpz

4,884 posts

113 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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The review of one of these on Top Gear was funny. This isn't exactly going to be the future of EV's though is it?

big_rob_sydney

3,406 posts

195 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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I'd have some questions about the practicality of it. Few manufacturers produce doors like that, and I'm guessing there are reasons for it. I do wonder if there's an issue around manufacturing costs / recalls / quality of fit and finish, etc. Maybe its possible to do with exotic (stronger / expensive) materials, but this isn't a car sitting in that kind of price bracket, and so materials science can only go so far?

I like the idea; just curious if its possible to produce it as seen.

Dazed and Confused

979 posts

83 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Agent XXX said:
It doesn't exactly look very stable.
Fear not, the battery pack will stop it flipping onto it's roof.

Could Nissan not do this instead?


andrewrob

2,913 posts

191 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Amanitin said:
"200kW battery"

what does that mean?
Got to be a typo surely. 20kwh would be more likely

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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andrewrob said:
Amanitin said:
"200kW battery"

what does that mean?
Got to be a typo surely. 20kwh would be more likely
Could be the max continuous output I suppose but more likely someone who failed GCSE physics. Now I'm off to buy some 500bhp fuel tanks. smile

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Kawasicki said:
How does the narrow front track and the wide rear give an aero advantage?
https://youtu.be/c_INdbXMqsw?t=398