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Is this a sales technique or just a poor salesman.
Discussions over phone and email and figures roughly discussed. Go in following chats and the figures for a PCP now 22% more a month than discussed on the phone. When pointed out, they then do the mental maths similar to Peter Kay doing the Greggs lady and start trying to confuse me with numbers by doing nonsense calculations and making up numbers and figures.
Felt it was all done to confuse me, while having me look at the shiny thing I might buy.
Ultimately it didnt work, but interested if this is a technique or a muppet? (If a technique I can understand the types of psychological triggers they are attempted to manipulate on the assumption they had read one pop sci book.
Discussions over phone and email and figures roughly discussed. Go in following chats and the figures for a PCP now 22% more a month than discussed on the phone. When pointed out, they then do the mental maths similar to Peter Kay doing the Greggs lady and start trying to confuse me with numbers by doing nonsense calculations and making up numbers and figures.
Felt it was all done to confuse me, while having me look at the shiny thing I might buy.
Ultimately it didnt work, but interested if this is a technique or a muppet? (If a technique I can understand the types of psychological triggers they are attempted to manipulate on the assumption they had read one pop sci book.
4941cc said:
Bit of a monkey.
I'd wager that the extra monthlies were due to the addition of a full package of add-on products, none of which carry any benefit to the GMFV/Optional Purchase Payment - usually good for an extra £50pm.
The only additional pack was a £600 pack, but that would not explain the near £4600 difference in quotes I'd wager that the extra monthlies were due to the addition of a full package of add-on products, none of which carry any benefit to the GMFV/Optional Purchase Payment - usually good for an extra £50pm.
Simonium said:
Rolling in negative equity from the p/x?
My car not included in deal. I also get how it's worked out. The math is very simple. The issue is how they have come to two so varied figures. One to get me in the showroom then another once I'm in.
There was none of the usual we can get the payment down if you pay X more upfront.
The change from on the phone to in was the monthlies changed. Nothing else.
Feels a con. Would hope it's just the guy being a Muppet and getting the numbers wrong or chancing his arm, rather than a common tactic.
k up to me. Received incredibly good service from my local Jaguar dealership last week:
Walked in and greeted by a lovely old lady at reception desk, asked me to take a seat and offered me a coffee while she found an available salesman who could deal with me.
Take a seat at the sales guys desk, tell him which car I've come to view, he gets the key, brings it around the front and tells me to go have a nose around. He's back at his desk, so I have the car to myself to check as I please with no pressure tactics or someone breathing down my neck.
I come back in and he's got all the details up on the screen. Tells me its full service history record, where it's been serviced, the fact they replaced a tyre on it when it came in. Was honest about how long that car had been sitting at the dealership for and not selling due to the unusual colour. Had a good chat about Jags in general. Told him I did not want to test drive or discuss numbers at this point as I'm not 100% sure and need to sell my car first.
I received a text message a few days ago from the sales man advising me the car had now been sold but if he could help with anything else to let him know.
Ideal dealership experience.
Walked in and greeted by a lovely old lady at reception desk, asked me to take a seat and offered me a coffee while she found an available salesman who could deal with me.
Take a seat at the sales guys desk, tell him which car I've come to view, he gets the key, brings it around the front and tells me to go have a nose around. He's back at his desk, so I have the car to myself to check as I please with no pressure tactics or someone breathing down my neck.
I come back in and he's got all the details up on the screen. Tells me its full service history record, where it's been serviced, the fact they replaced a tyre on it when it came in. Was honest about how long that car had been sitting at the dealership for and not selling due to the unusual colour. Had a good chat about Jags in general. Told him I did not want to test drive or discuss numbers at this point as I'm not 100% sure and need to sell my car first.
I received a text message a few days ago from the sales man advising me the car had now been sold but if he could help with anything else to let him know.
Ideal dealership experience.
talksthetorque said:
4941cc said:
Not from the dealership's point of view... 
They sold one car and impressed a Oh hang on they didn't get named.
They sold a car.
How is the used car sales market faring at the moment?
On a few other brand specific car forums people are moaning how difficult they are finding it selling their cars (private sales though)
An example is on a BMW M car forum where the likes of the once in demand V8 E9X M3 cars are taking root - even the high spec/low miles mintboxes.
On a few other brand specific car forums people are moaning how difficult they are finding it selling their cars (private sales though)
An example is on a BMW M car forum where the likes of the once in demand V8 E9X M3 cars are taking root - even the high spec/low miles mintboxes.
lord trumpton said:
How is the used car sales market faring at the moment?
On a few other brand specific car forums people are moaning how difficult they are finding it selling their cars (private sales though)
An example is on a BMW M car forum where the likes of the once in demand V8 E9X M3 cars are taking root - even the high spec/low miles mintboxes.
I put my E92 M3 up for sale last Sunday, it was gone on Monday to the first enquirer. I had two others interested. Price them sensibly and they'll go quickly enough. On a few other brand specific car forums people are moaning how difficult they are finding it selling their cars (private sales though)
An example is on a BMW M car forum where the likes of the once in demand V8 E9X M3 cars are taking root - even the high spec/low miles mintboxes.
Why would a Ford main dealer allow such twaddle to be written on an advert:
"This ST-3 is packed with power and is FULLY BLACKED OUT giving it that stealth and low profile look. It's been well looked after previously and is in IMMACULATE CONDITION. , , Our Focus is fitted with a STYLING KIT meaning you get a FULL BODY KIT ENHANCEMENT, LOWERED SPORTS SUSPENSION for a race feel, FULL BLACK LEATHER SPORTS RECARO SEATS which are also heated, stainless steel race pedal STAINLESS STEEL RACE PEDALS and even TEMPERATURE GAUGES on the dashboard. , , It's fast to drive, and gives off that adrenaline buzz when you hear it go."
"This ST-3 is packed with power and is FULLY BLACKED OUT giving it that stealth and low profile look. It's been well looked after previously and is in IMMACULATE CONDITION. , , Our Focus is fitted with a STYLING KIT meaning you get a FULL BODY KIT ENHANCEMENT, LOWERED SPORTS SUSPENSION for a race feel, FULL BLACK LEATHER SPORTS RECARO SEATS which are also heated, stainless steel race pedal STAINLESS STEEL RACE PEDALS and even TEMPERATURE GAUGES on the dashboard. , , It's fast to drive, and gives off that adrenaline buzz when you hear it go."
Toyoda said:
Why would a Ford main dealer allow such twaddle to be written on an advert:
"This ST-3 is packed with power and is FULLY BLACKED OUT giving it that stealth and low profile look. It's been well looked after previously and is in IMMACULATE CONDITION. , , Our Focus is fitted with a STYLING KIT meaning you get a FULL BODY KIT ENHANCEMENT, LOWERED SPORTS SUSPENSION for a race feel, FULL BLACK LEATHER SPORTS RECARO SEATS which are also heated, stainless steel race pedal STAINLESS STEEL RACE PEDALS and even TEMPERATURE GAUGES on the dashboard. , , It's fast to drive, and gives off that adrenaline buzz when you hear it go."
Aiming your advert at the target market , nothing wrong with that at all."This ST-3 is packed with power and is FULLY BLACKED OUT giving it that stealth and low profile look. It's been well looked after previously and is in IMMACULATE CONDITION. , , Our Focus is fitted with a STYLING KIT meaning you get a FULL BODY KIT ENHANCEMENT, LOWERED SPORTS SUSPENSION for a race feel, FULL BLACK LEATHER SPORTS RECARO SEATS which are also heated, stainless steel race pedal STAINLESS STEEL RACE PEDALS and even TEMPERATURE GAUGES on the dashboard. , , It's fast to drive, and gives off that adrenaline buzz when you hear it go."
Toyoda said:
Why would a Ford main dealer allow such twaddle to be written on an advert:
"This ST-3 is packed with power and is FULLY BLACKED OUT giving it that stealth and low profile look. It's been well looked after previously and is in IMMACULATE CONDITION. , , Our Focus is fitted with a STYLING KIT meaning you get a FULL BODY KIT ENHANCEMENT, LOWERED SPORTS SUSPENSION for a race feel, FULL BLACK LEATHER SPORTS RECARO SEATS which are also heated, stainless steel race pedal STAINLESS STEEL RACE PEDALS and even TEMPERATURE GAUGES on the dashboard. , , It's fast to drive, and gives off that adrenaline buzz when you hear it go."
Because he's very cleverly trying to speaka da lingo of the sort of person who would buy a blacked out ST3."This ST-3 is packed with power and is FULLY BLACKED OUT giving it that stealth and low profile look. It's been well looked after previously and is in IMMACULATE CONDITION. , , Our Focus is fitted with a STYLING KIT meaning you get a FULL BODY KIT ENHANCEMENT, LOWERED SPORTS SUSPENSION for a race feel, FULL BLACK LEATHER SPORTS RECARO SEATS which are also heated, stainless steel race pedal STAINLESS STEEL RACE PEDALS and even TEMPERATURE GAUGES on the dashboard. , , It's fast to drive, and gives off that adrenaline buzz when you hear it go."
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