One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 4

One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 4

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Monkeylegend

16,185 posts

175 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Muddle238 said:
Today I was part of something that surprised me slightly and also made me loose a bit of faith in humanity.

I had to nip to the cashpoint at the supermarket, but instead of parking right by the cashpoint on DYLs like most people do, I decided to go off into the car park and find a space. I parked in an end space (as usual) as I like to protect my doors from other drivers, especially in busy supermarket car parks.

Just as I was getting out, an Asian minicab driver swings into the space next to me. Given it was busy I can't expect somebody to not park next to me but I always hope that they don't. Anyway as I lock the car and walk towards the cashpoint, I glance down the gap between my car and his taxi as he gets out, making sure he doesn't bash my car. He notices me and says sharply "don't worry mate I'm not going to hit it!".

I respond "it's ok, I'm just making sure" to which taxi man goes "yeah? Well don't". Slightly bewildered why some random taxi driver is telling me that I shouldn't be making sure that he's not opened his taxi door into my car, I get immediately a bit pissed off. I explain to him that it's my vehicle and not up to him to tell me what I can or cannot do around my vehicle to ensure that it's safe and not damaged. I explain to him about the hit and run I had a couple of years ago that cost me £400 to fix. He went off on one about how he'd been driving 30 years or something, I sort of zoned out at this point and wandered off in my own direction towards the cashpoint ignoring him.

What makes somebody so defensive if they see the owner of the car they've just parked alongside notice them getting out, then have the audacity to tell them that they have no right to look after their bodywork just smacks of somebody being the type who would normally just open their door into the next car and then bugger off. Maybe he got defensive and argumentative because he felt threatened, who knows. At the end of the day I don't want somebody putting a dent in my car and then just walking off, I'm going to check as I go past.

I think next time I'll just park on DYLs like everybody else.
A lesson on how to turn a complete non event into a conflict hehe



swagmeister

260 posts

36 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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2 things :

The constant lane changers in stop start motorway traffic to gain that extra 4 meters.
As above the lane changers who signal to change lane when there is NO gap and sit stationary blocking all behind until a gap appears or some sod is forced to allow them in.

austinsmirk

3,490 posts

67 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Veryoldbear said:
Went to a filling station today to put petrol in car.

It seems to me that filling stations now exist for any OTHER than the selling of petrol. The filling station was full of people parking at the pumps then going into the shop to buy sweets, accessories, groceries, giant buckets of brown coffee-like substance. It's getting like going the cinema. It's dustbins of popcorn and hotdogs next.

Why don't they just sell PETROL FFS? I will allow diesel and engine oil, but ....
This ^^^^^^^

eg the local one in my village/little town is now an M&S one. So should you go, its massive queues at the pumps because people put fuel in, then go get a trolley/basket and do a bloody great shop.

But yes I understand the profit is to be had from muffins and dine in meals for two and not petrol.

Thank goodness my car only wants filling once a month and my wife's car is fully electric. I cannot begin to tell you how much better it is, never frequenting a petrol station regularly and instead, re-fueling on the driveway. It's the future smile

yellowjack

11,800 posts

110 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Mandalore said:
Thus fat, this particular knob thread is awesome.


Until Yellowcrack gets here with his bloody essays.
Boing!



Suddenly, yellowjack appeared...

wavey

yellowjack

11,800 posts

110 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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carlove said:
Going to say it for the first time in this thread but it will get mentioned on every page until Vol 5. People who jump the red a few seconds after it changes like it's no problem, nearly collided with an idiot in a stupid Hyundai 4x4 who came flying through a good few seconds after my light went green.
You'll hate the regular anti-cyclist threads then.

According to the self-appointed arbiters of everything that is OK to do, it's cyclists that go through red lights when they've been red for weeks, but car drivers only take teeny-tiny risks with a few seconds around it turning to red. Which is entirely OK. (If you discount the part where an amber light actually means "Stop!", of course. wink)

I had one not so long ago. In fact I think I mentioned it somewhere in these very forums. I arrive at a traffic light which (much as I'd mystically predicted it would do) changed from red 'Green!', through amber, to green 'Red!' before I got to the line. So I stopped, as you would. And the twunt behind me (who'd been tailgating me up to that point) stopped too. There was a brief pause before he then lurched around me and drove straight over the four-way junction accelerating hard. I've no idea upon what he'd have based his defence if there'd been a collision, but it struck me as being an exceptionally stupid thing to do...


...but it's cyclists who are the worst offenders. Apparently.

Edited to correct a daft mistake, as spotted by subsequent posters. rolleyes


Edited by yellowjack on Thursday 2nd November 12:03

Krikkit

15,702 posts

125 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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yellowjack said:
I had one not so long ago. In fact I think I mentioned it somewhere in these very forums. I arrive at a traffic light which (much as I'd mystically predicted it would do) changed from red, through amber, to green before I got to the line. So I stopped, as you would.
I presume you mean green->amber->red?

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

199 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Krikkit said:
yellowjack said:
I had one not so long ago. In fact I think I mentioned it somewhere in these very forums. I arrive at a traffic light which (much as I'd mystically predicted it would do) changed from red, through amber, to green before I got to the line. So I stopped, as you would.
I presume you mean green->amber->red?
Perhaps he's trying to 'cancel out' the red light jumpers by stopping on green biggrin

yellowjack

11,800 posts

110 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Krikkit said:
yellowjack said:
I had one not so long ago. In fact I think I mentioned it somewhere in these very forums. I arrive at a traffic light which (much as I'd mystically predicted it would do) changed from red, through amber, to green before I got to the line. So I stopped, as you would.
I presume you mean green->amber->red?
Excellent spot! And a total "Doh!" moment from me.

But at least someone reads my "essays", eh?

Of course I meant that the green light would change to amber and then red before I got to the line. But the meat of the post was the idiot behind me who initially stopped, then decided he couldn't possibly wait for the next green light, and who then overtook me, from a standing start, straight over a four way junction against a light that by then had been red for considerably longer than "just a couple of seconds".

InitialDave

5,048 posts

63 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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yellowjack said:
it's cyclists that go through red lights when they've been red for weeks,
Yes.

yellowjack said:
but car drivers only take teeny-tiny risks with a few seconds around it turning to red.
Not "teeny-tiny" in my opinion, but that aside, yes.

yellowjack said:
Which is entirely OK.
No.

yellowjack said:
...but it's cyclists who are the worst offenders. Apparently.
Yes.

Look, I enjoy cycling, but there are a hell of a lot of people on bikes who seem to just not care about traffic lights, and overall not get that once you're on a bike, you need to act like a vehicle, not a pedestrian.

What you're mocking is exactly what I've seen. An occasional car driver sneaking through a red that's just turned, and a lot of cyclists just going straight through no matter how long it's been on red.

It's not an attack on cyclists, it's exasperation with dheads.

Europa1

8,614 posts

132 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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carlove said:
Going to say it for the first time in this thread but it will get mentioned on every page until Vol 5. People who jump the red a few seconds after it changes like it's no problem, nearly collided with an idiot in a stupid Hyundai 4x4 who came flying through a good few seconds after my light went green.
It's become much more commonplace in Cambridge (where I live; I'm not just picking a town at random). Earlier this week I was sat at one set of lights where a mere tool went through just after a light changed to red. The 3 drivers who went through after him were definitely knobs. When did the world get so impatient?

yellowjack

11,800 posts

110 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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InitialDave said:
yellowjack said:
it's cyclists that go through red lights when they've been red for weeks,
Yes.

yellowjack said:
but car drivers only take teeny-tiny risks with a few seconds around it turning to red.
Not "teeny-tiny" in my opinion, but that aside, yes.

yellowjack said:
Which is entirely OK.
No.

yellowjack said:
...but it's cyclists who are the worst offenders. Apparently.
Yes.

Look, I enjoy cycling, but there are a hell of a lot of people on bikes who seem to just not care about traffic lights, and overall not get that once you're on a bike, you need to act like a vehicle, not a pedestrian.

What you're mocking is exactly what I've seen. An occasional car driver sneaking through a red that's just turned, and a lot of cyclists just going straight through no matter how long it's been on red.

It's not an attack on cyclists, it's exasperation with dheads.
I'm not "mocking" anything. I'm challenging the assertion (which I've read time and time again in these forums) that car drivers don't blast through red lights long after they stopped being green ones. It's bks. Read my post. A car stopped behind me, and after a few seconds decided to pull out completely blind from behind me, then drive past me on the WRONG side of the carriageway, straight across in front of traffic from both sides of the junction. Staggeringly dangerous, far more so than the odd plodder on a Dunlop MTB deciding to turn left against a red light.

As a cyclist myself, other bike riders ignoring red lights pisses me off massively. But not because I think it's inherently dangerous, more because it just hands ammo to the frothy mouthed knuckle draggers in cars who rant and rage about how "dangerous" it is for cyclists to jump red lights, but who are happy to ridicule a potential prison sentence for speeding at 124 mph in a 50 mph limit. Speeding and ignoring traffic lights are both "against the law". Yet it's perfectly acceptable to most drivers to wander over the speed limit, sometimes significantly, on a daily basis. Yet a cyclist who makes the same assessment of that other law is widely and roundly derided. It doesn't matter at what point you decide to ignore the red light. Be it "even as it turns from amber to red", or "it's been red so long you might as well wait until it goes green again son", the offence committed is the same. I just don't 'get' the angst from drivers. The cyclist jumping a red isn't going to do so without making an assessment of the risk. In the same way that a speeding motorist is taking a "calculated risk" with a whole set of potential consequences beyond just enforcement action.

I'll say it again, just so it's clear. I don't "jump" red lights. Not in my car, not on my bike. I don't condone other cyclists doing it. I get irritated (and sometimes angry) when other drivers do it. I firmly believe that the reason RLJing cyclists garner so much anger from drivers is simple envy. Those drivers see the cyclists "getting away with it" but are often prevented from doing the same either by traffic ahead stopping or because they fear enforcement action from cameras that will recognise their number plate. Believe me, far more drivers would take far greater risks if they were less easy to identify. It's not passing the driving test, or some more keenly developed sense of responsibility that makes drivers obey most traffic laws and regulations. It's simply a fear of the consequences of enforcement action. Which is exactly why the "usual idiots" pop up on most cyclist-bashing threads to suggest "insurance and number plates" for cyclists. Because, of course, those things have put an end to motor vehicle accidents and offences at a stroke... rolleyes

yellowjack

11,800 posts

110 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Nanook said:
YJ, you've got plenty of other cycling threads, please, fk off out of this one with the cyclist nonsense.

I'll not say that nobody cares, that wouldn't be true.

But hardly anybody cares.
My own counsel will I keep on the threads that post in I do...




...and quite frankly, you are free to fk off out of this one if you don't like what other people post. I don't care who cares, nor who doesn't. Much like you, I find it incredibly liberating to type a load of absolutely pointless drivel and upload it to the internet. And I intend to continue feeling liberated thank you very much...

TommoAE86

1,795 posts

71 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Jim AK said:
SantaBarbara said:
People who over rely on Google searches to give the correct answer.
Especially people who tell you `Google said the journey will take (insert time) I checked last night`

That's as maybe, it gave you real time info when you got home from the pub. We want to do the journey in the morning rush hour(s)
Haha I got caught out with this, cue some fun driving to a car show I was attending smile Made up the time (just).

Tuesday night - me, I accelerated out of a 30 and may have just left it in 3rd and enjoy the turbo. Bet I looked like a tt to the tdi behind me as it probably looked like I was failing to try and race away...

Then on the return leg of the journey, Merc ML thing pulled out of a side road incredibly slowly, but it's ok I only had to come to a stop despite being visible for 5 seconds. For an encore they decided to stop next to a junction, then indicate, then turn into the junction... too busy being a window licking knobhead to remember how to drive properly.

Jim AK

4,029 posts

68 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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yellowjack said:
quite frankly, you are free to fk off out of this one
As are you!........ No prizes for guessing who I think would be least missed.

Oh and shut the door on your way out!!

Kewy

1,217 posts

38 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Anyone developed a 'bickering filter' for PH yet? rolleyes

People who slow down almost to standstill at roundabouts, when there are no cars within the same time zone, purely because they don't look/plan ahead whilst driving are pretty high up on my 'knob chart'.

Oh, and littering.

yellowjack

11,800 posts

110 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Jim AK said:
Nanook said:
YJ, you've got plenty of other cycling threads, please, fk off out of this one with the cyclist nonsense.

I'll not say that nobody cares, that wouldn't be true.

But hardly anybody cares.
yellowjack said:
quite frankly, you are free to fk off out of this one
As are you!........ No prizes for guessing who I think would be least missed.

Oh and shut the door on your way out!!
Would you care to quote the exchange from the start? Or are you out to paint me as the villain of this particular piece? Because it certainly wasn't me that started off inviting other forum users to "...fk off out...", and I only turned the quote back to it's originator. FYI.

Alternatively, you may consider this as a "But sir! He staaaaarted it!" and a flounce. But just because you'd like to believe something, it doesn't make it so...

tongue out

Muddle238

1,435 posts

57 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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castex said:
Not relevant that he was Asian. You were looking for a fight. Can you not see that the defensive person in this story is you?
You're right and wrong. Yes I was defensive, but only as far as going out of my way to park in an end space as far away from the store front as possible, because I have zero faith in other drivers. I parked defensively, fair enough. Taxi man decides to pull up beside, fair enough.

Where you're wrong is that I was looking for a fight. I have a very simple philosophy in life which is to avoid conflict at all costs. I think people who deliberately get aggressive or look for trouble are scum of the earth. Surely if I wanted a fight, I wouldn't have parked defensively in an end space, miles from the door. What triggered me to engage with him was his comment that I shouldn't look to see whether his door is touching mine or not. Before he said that I was already walking off towards the cashpoint, hardly looking for a fight.

Liquid Knight

15,493 posts

127 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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carlove said:
Blown2CV said:
saw a bloke driving a new ish complete base spec BMW 3 series in white, tiny wheels and everything... each to their own and that... except he had fitted the BMW M colours grille slats accessory/option that you tend to see on M-cars. Looked utterly stupid and out of place on his choice of car.

this type of thing:

I don't mind M badges on the M sports (wouldn't do it myself but I don't mind it) but when I saw a 3 Series coupe 'SE' with the small wheels but M POWER badges everywhere I did think knob, when I saw it again flooring it through Sainsbury's car park it was confirmed that he is a knob.
I noticed the same thing on a diesel X3 the other day. I stared at it for a moment to see exactly what it was, looked up at the driver and he had an embarrassed look of...

"I know, it wasn't my idea, LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE"

...on his face. I kind of felt sorry for him.

nonsequitur

9,661 posts

60 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Jim AK said:
yellowjack said:
quite frankly, you are free to fk off out of this one
As are you!........ No prizes for guessing who I think would be least missed.

Oh and shut the door on your way out!!
A yellowjack fan club anyone? Poor chap needs friends.argue

V6Pushfit

10,525 posts

54 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Maybe it’s the liberal fad for listening to minority groups, the oppressed and anyone else with a perceived grudge that has made cyclists more vocal ?