RE: Mercedes-AMG E63 S vs Audi RS6 Performance

RE: Mercedes-AMG E63 S vs Audi RS6 Performance

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ZX10R NIN

13,055 posts

63 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Love the fact that these are made it would be the Mercedes for me.

Luther Blissett

361 posts

70 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Yep, a V8 estate Nissan GT-R sounds right up my street

mclwanB

453 posts

183 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Luther Blissett said:
Yep, a V8 estate Nissan GT-R sounds right up my street
Me too. Red hides the wheel arches quite well, badge delete and get rid if the exhaust tips and that's be great thanks!

rtz62

1,595 posts

93 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Great article, pleased that these monsters still stalk the earth despite the best efforts yoghurt-weaving, muesli-treading, flat-earth types but the ‘..over £200,000’ but made it immediately irrelevant to me. And to most readers on here I’d wager.
Perhaps revisited in 3,4 or 5 years time when prices are more ‘reasonable’ then I would sit up and take note.
But then, I’d be searching t’internet to see what the problems that have surfaced in that period are likely to cost me (and I only have the equivalent of one lung and one kidney which I could possibly sell!)

Smokey32

328 posts

31 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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I find it hilarious that a near 100k estate has to be specced with heated rear seats for 300quid.
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theboss

4,128 posts

157 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Gandahar said:
How many stops for petrol will these two bad boys do on a trip from Glasgow to London used as meant to be? 2? 3?

5?
Or more likely just one...

mainaman

378 posts

123 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Gandahar said:
These would be both fun for a weekend or if someone paying the bills, but a diesel version would be just as good for what they do 90% of the time whilst the golden labrador in the back does not turn into a brown labrador due to worry.....

I just mentioned diesel. The UK government has now launched cruise missiles at my house due to me, thicko, thinking that would reduce CO2 whilst giving me a longer range between fill ups. How many stops for petrol will these two bad boys do on a trip from Glasgow to London used as meant to be? 2? 3?

5?

You need a car that can take you trans UK with only one stop for the service station where they have the special half price offer on a Ginsters peppered steak slice. End of story.

Edited by Gandahar on Saturday 25th November 19:04
Oh,please,enough with the anti-petrol moaning in every recent car thread on the net.Even commuters,who are doing 50k miles per year,may not spend more as they can get better economy with electric cars,similar one with hybrids or slightly worse one with some turbo petrols.

The two estates in the article are both practical and indulgent,cars like this cannot have low running costs.

The 90% argument applies for every performance car too...

Rat_Fink_67

2,063 posts

144 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Gandahar said:
These would be both fun for a weekend or if someone paying the bills, but a diesel version would be just as good for what they do 90% of the time whilst the golden labrador in the back does not turn into a brown labrador due to worry.....

I just mentioned diesel. The UK government has now launched cruise missiles at my house due to me, thicko, thinking that would reduce CO2 whilst giving me a longer range between fill ups. How many stops for petrol will these two bad boys do on a trip from Glasgow to London used as meant to be? 2? 3?

5?

You need a car that can take you trans UK with only one stop for the service station where they have the special half price offer on a Ginsters peppered steak slice. End of story.
Crazy thought I know, but not everyone gives a st about MPG, CO2, or how many fuel stops are needed. I'd rather travel by camel than any rattly, stinking diesel car. This is Pistonheads, if a pair of 600bhp V8 estate cars don't raise a smile then you're probably in the wrong place.


powerstroke

7,919 posts

98 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Rat_Fink_67 said:
Gandahar said:
These would be both fun for a weekend or if someone paying the bills, but a diesel version would be just as good for what they do 90% of the time whilst the golden labrador in the back does not turn into a brown labrador due to worry.....

I just mentioned diesel. The UK government has now launched cruise missiles at my house due to me, thicko, thinking that would reduce CO2 whilst giving me a longer range between fill ups. How many stops for petrol will these two bad boys do on a trip from Glasgow to London used as meant to be? 2? 3?

5?

You need a car that can take you trans UK with only one stop for the service station where they have the special half price offer on a Ginsters peppered steak slice. End of story.
Crazy thought I know, but not everyone gives a st about MPG, CO2, or how many fuel stops are needed. I'd rather travel by camel than any rattly, stinking diesel car. This is Pistonheads, if a pair of 600bhp V8 estate cars don't raise a smile then you're probably in the wrong place.
Yes but they are dull as ditch water rep mobiles with a big engine , we have cameras every lamp post or bumper to bumper traffic whats the point ?? , they are for non car car enthusiasts with more money than imagination ....

breadvan

1,285 posts

106 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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powerstroke said:
Yes but they are dull as ditch water rep mobiles with a big engine , we have cameras every lamp post or bumper to bumper traffic whats the point ?? , they are for non car car enthusiasts with more money than imagination ....
I’m not sure you’re on the right forum?

I drove the E63 yesterday, it was superb, the power? Laugh out loud; the handling? Excellent - the steering was so much more direct than I expected and the 4x4 kept everything really tight meaning small country roads were no problem at all.

I want the best/fastest daily car to transport a 4 year old and 2 dogs, what’s your recommendation?

Ashok

539 posts

197 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Why not just go for an Alpina B5 touring? 200mph performance and so much more special smile

DeolTheBeast

437 posts

84 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Ashok said:
Why not just go for an Alpina B5 touring? 200mph performance and so much more special smile
As if the choice between a B5 and two other 600+hp estate cars makes the latter less "special"

Chestrockwell

1,309 posts

95 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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108k for the Benz
98k for the Audi

!!!!!!!

I mean even if you PCP them, the money you pay over 4 years could get you a buy to let up north!

I think both cars are amazing but really don’t see the point in them at that kind of money when you could get fully kitted out 3.0 diesels for under 50 grand with another 50 to spare for a pre reg C63/RS5/M3.

Yes they’re press cars with loads of unnecessary options and I’m sure discounts could be easily managed but you end up paying the ‘savings’ in interest.

If I did had to pick though, I’d go for the RS6, I prefer the analogue dials & it being/looking a lot more planted, merc looks a bit high from the back!

GranCab

1,320 posts

84 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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No "need" to spend £108K on a new Merc ...

£ 85,980.00, pre-reg , delivery miles.





TonyG2003

135 posts

30 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Interesting how much people are put off by the Merc tyre scrubbing. I’ve got a E43 estate (no towbar on the e63!). You notice it a little a low speed manovering but it’s pretty much only when on full lock.

Also I agree these things handle well for two tonnes barges but if you want something that’s fun handling look elsewhere

PunterCam

805 posts

133 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Why would you want an estate car that rides so badly? Do they perhaps do a "regular 2l diesel suspension" option? I think things would begin to make sense at that point....then just add that 2l diesel itself and throw away the tacky body kit and you'd be getting somewhere.

Rat_Fink_67

2,063 posts

144 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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PunterCam said:
....then just add that 2l diesel itself and throw away the tacky body kit and you'd be getting somewhere.
fk diesel smile

Discombobulate

3,496 posts

124 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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HeMightBeBanned said:
"Which is best?"

Surely you mean "Which is better?".

If there were three cars on test, you could ask "Which is best?". However, there are only two.

Good. Better. Best.

FFS. It's not difficult. Either learn to write English or sack the sub-editor.
Actually in the context of super estates the headline writer can just about get away with using the superlative rather than the comparative. It is certainly not a sackable offence given the (lack of) rules that now apply to headline writing (first one seemingly being no requirement to read the article).

Anyhooo... I am lucky enough to have a RS6 as a daily driver and love it. Costs aside - 23mpg lifetime average, depreciation, new tyres every 12k or so and brakes all round every 25-30k - it is easily the best all rounder I have ever owned. All the previous versions left me cold (V10 engine aside) and were wooden to drive but, as highlighted in the article, the current one is surprisingly good dynamically given its broad brief.

Benlw2000

1 posts

15 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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GranCab said:
... "and confirms AMG is in a richly exciting vain of form" ....

Jeez ... go back to skool ....
What's wrong with that?

andrewparker

3,371 posts

125 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Benlw2000 said:
GranCab said:
... "and confirms AMG is in a richly exciting vain of form" ....

Jeez ... go back to skool ....
What's wrong with that?
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