Jaguar - an ‘old mans’ car?

Jaguar - an ‘old mans’ car?

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Shrimpvende

734 posts

73 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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24 and own an F Type. Bit of a chav spec, bright red with the option large black wheels and lower bodykit, never had anyone say anything about it being an old man's car or midlife crisis!

Most common one is always 'what is it?' followed by people looking a bit confused when I say it's a Jag. I've had a few separate (always female) people ask me if it's a Ferrari...must be the colour!



FWIW, all my mates of a similar age all think it's pretty awesome - I think it's had more positive comments than the Vantage I had beforehand

Edited by Shrimpvende on Saturday 6th January 14:27

Loyly

17,559 posts

140 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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The 'old' Jaguars, up to the X350 XJ, were 'old man' cars. They appealed to a discerning customer who liked the classic styling and great ride (and who was prepared to overlook their numerous failings, I might add). The 'new' Jaguars are a bit more chintzy and probably don't appeal to the same customer base.

craigjm

15,091 posts

181 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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GOG440 said:
Whistle said:
47 and currently drive an XF.
Snap

Its a lovely roomy mile muncher, and much better than its bavarian predecessor
But to a lad in his early 20s you are old hehe

NickCQ

5,392 posts

77 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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simonr100 said:
Personally I think 911 owners also tend to be old. I rarely see anybody under 60 driving one.
That’s true for the majority of expensive cars and I think it’s really a function of how wealth and earning demographics have changed in the UK. If you cast your mind back 20-30 years things were a bit different.

Although I suppose the 80’s 911 was a very different type of car to today’s 991.

WJNB

2,637 posts

142 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Far too bulky on the outside with an unnecessary titchy claustrophobic interior & the boot space on the roadster plain daft.
However it is a worthy successor to the E-Type even if the company is Indian owned. Best of all you don't have to suffer the indignity of being a BMW driver.

craigjm

15,091 posts

181 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Loyly said:
The 'old' Jaguars, up to the X350 XJ, were 'old man' cars. They appealed to a discerning customer who liked the classic styling and great ride (and who was prepared to overlook their numerous failings, I might add). The 'new' Jaguars are a bit more chintzy and probably don't appeal to the same customer base.
You are exactly right. Jaguar historically built brilliant cars.... badly. This improved under Ford but they kept the styling. I think if William Lyons had been younger and still in charge in the 80a and 90s we wouldn’t have seen that continue. He was a visionary doing the best he could with what was available and within budget at the time. You gave to remember that by the mid 60s Jaguar was broke. The problem is, that unlike some other brands, there seems to have been a following built up around Jaguar that assumed that old fashioned and wood and leather was what it stood for and therefore they cannot accept the new era. These people see the new era as sell anything as long as it can compete with the Germans. Personally I have no issue with the new cars and love the new XJ particularly.

ambuletz

10,127 posts

162 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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who cares. i remember when i was around 10ish looking through weekly autotrader mags and always circling jags and TVRs, for some reason i just liked them, with the rounded headlights.

bristolracer

5,275 posts

130 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Yes an old mans car (apparently)

If you drive an S type you must be a pub landlord
If you drive an x type you are an UKIPer with a caravan at Pontins,oh and dont you know its a Ford? (generally spouted by Audi drivers who forget that their cars are made of VW bits)


Me ? I own an S type and dont give a monkeys what others think.
I can count 20 German default cars for every Jag I see.




Edited by bristolracer on Saturday 6th January 15:08

Dodsy

7,111 posts

208 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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My 19 year old son and his mates tell me the XJR is about as cool as it gets. Looks like a boring car goes like a rocket. My son keeps asking me to put him on the insurance .

No chance 😂

Northern.N

201 posts

121 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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26 and I have an XKR

“Old man’s car!” Didn’t hear that mate, too busy enjoying a supercharged v8 in something that looks incredibly sexy laugh

I’ve heard more “wow, that’s gorgeous!” remarks than “old man”ones... which leads me to believe jealousy from those with the latter.

Shrimpvende

734 posts

73 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Northern.N said:
26 and I have an XKR

“Old man’s car!” Didn’t hear that mate, too busy enjoying a supercharged v8 in something that looks incredibly sexy laugh

I’ve heard more “wow, that’s gorgeous!” remarks than “old man”ones... which leads me to believe jealousy from those with the latter.
Hey Nick!

Northern.N

201 posts

121 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Shrimpvende said:
Northern.N said:
26 and I have an XKR

“Old man’s car!” Didn’t hear that mate, too busy enjoying a supercharged v8 in something that looks incredibly sexy laugh

I’ve heard more “wow, that’s gorgeous!” remarks than “old man”ones... which leads me to believe jealousy from those with the latter.
Hey Nick!
Hello again laughwavey

thatjagbloke

186 posts

61 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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MellowshipSlinky said:
Mr Prescott, is that you...?
biggrin
Thankfully not !

andrewparker

6,150 posts

168 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Thankyou4calling said:
The fact you’ve had comments along those lines says for me how far removed posters on PH are from the rest of the populace.

Post on here that you have a white 220e class and you are a low life who drives a rented base diesel.

To most you are in an AMG Merc and doing exceptionally well for yourself.

On here drive an FType you are a driving god who appreciates the alternative to a Cayman, the public see you as having a mid life crisis in your old mans car.
Exactly, doesn’t matter how many people here think they’re the epitome of cool. I suspect for ‘normal’ people it largely depends on how they remember them in their youth. For me it was my elderly neighbours XJS!

DonkeyApple

46,009 posts

150 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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craigjm said:
You are exactly right. Jaguar historically built brilliant cars.... badly. This improved under Ford but they kept the styling. I think if William Lyons had been younger and still in charge in the 80a and 90s we wouldn’t have seen that continue. He was a visionary doing the best he could with what was available and within budget at the time. You gave to remember that by the mid 60s Jaguar was broke. The problem is, that unlike some other brands, there seems to have been a following built up around Jaguar that assumed that old fashioned and wood and leather was what it stood for and therefore they cannot accept the new era. These people see the new era as sell anything as long as it can compete with the Germans. Personally I have no issue with the new cars and love the new XJ particularly.
I think that’s a pretty fair assessment. It’s good to see Jag selling more and more cars and to have finally found the balls to break away from the slight staleness they found themselves in and reverting back to being modern.

As for the stigma of being for old people, the kids with Jags on this thread should remember the original accusation was ‘pensioners and spivs’ not just pensioners. wink

Classy6

409 posts

158 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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I looked at an XKR last year when I was 28. Ultimately settled on a hairdressers car, an SLK 55...

Would hardly put an F type as an 'old man car' anyway. Nothing Jaguar are making at the moment is 'old man', they took the same initiative Mercedes did 5 years ago and lowered their target market by about 30 years.

CPWilliams

215 posts

64 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Jags, in the right spec, are some of the very best looking cars on the road. In the wrong spec however, they can look very 'old man'. Just look at the aesthetic differences between an XFS and a Portfolio.

25 years old and would have a 'correct spec' Jag over it's competitors across the board. The nicer variants could do without the factory-fit black alloys though, bit council.

Jim AK

4,029 posts

105 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Perhaps it`s just me but i really don`t like the F Type.

One of my neighbours has one & I know it`s how he drives it, like the Cock he actually is, exhaust barking. popping & farting all the time that really puts me off them.

I`d happily take a Supercharged V8 Jag in any model from any era though.

Oh & I may be slightly biased as we still have my late FiL`s 95 X300 Sovereign with all of 57k miles from new!!

craigjm

15,091 posts

181 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Jim AK said:
Perhaps it`s just me but i really don`t like the F Type.
I don’t like it either. It’s far too heavy and needs to go on a severe diet. It’s so heavy it’s the equivalent of carrying around three fully grown average men in addition to the weight of a Cayman S. The styling does nothing for me BUT I am glad that it exists (even in four pot form) and is doing well.

I liked the initial Callum designs XK, XF and XJ but since then I think they have become more and more generic and the current XF is not to my eyes anywhere near as special as the original even with all the compromises forced on it by the Stype. I am hoping the new XJ in a year or so time is start of a new direction. No doubt the current cars are selling great but the don’t, to me, have the grace of the early Callum cars and that’s coming from someone who was not keen at all on the Ford retro era.

pmanson

13,163 posts

234 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Shrimpvende said:
24 and own an F Type. Bit of a chav spec, bright red with the option large black wheels and lower bodykit, never had anyone say anything about it being an old man's car or midlife crisis!

Most common one is always 'what is it?' followed by people looking a bit confused when I say it's a Jag. I've had a few separate (always female) people ask me if it's a Ferrari...must be the colour!



FWIW, all my mates of a similar age all think it's pretty awesome - I think it's had more positive comments than the Vantage I had beforehand

Edited by Shrimpvende on Saturday 6th January 14:27
Mine is red too