RE: SEAT Leon Cupra: Spotted

RE: SEAT Leon Cupra: Spotted

Tuesday 9th January 2018

SEAT Leon Cupra: Spotted

The earliest Mk3 Cupras are £20K less than a sold-out Cupra R now, and soon out of warranty - thinking what we're thinking?



Last week's news of the SEAT Leon Cupra R finding 24 UK buyers - two dozen! - served as a worthy reminder that the standard car is a thoroughly decent hot hatch. Even though you may still struggle to convince people of that.

Perhaps it's because there aren't yellow ones. Perhaps it's because of the whole Nurburgring fiasco. Perhaps it's because the Golf GTI is better than ever, as is so much of the competition. For whatever reason, the Mk3 Leon Cupra doesn't appear to have been the runaway hit of previous generations. When did you last see one?


And that's a shame really, because there's an awful lot going for the Leon. It's really fast, stylish, sharp to drive and well equipped. It must be a damn sight rarer than a Golf R, too. I ran one for a few months as a long-termer and it was fantastic, suiting every situation that could be thrown at it brilliantly well. In fact it was only on later driving the Ultimate Performance Pack that it became apparent a more focused Leon was perfectly usable as well.

Which brings us very neatly to this car. On the face of it this Leon Cupra is like many others, a 2014 manual 280 with five doors. Interestingly though, it's now less than £15k - £14,950, with 28,000 miles and a full SEAT service history - and, as a 64-plate car, it would have just ran out of warranty. Which means you can start modifying...

Now we're not talking anything ridiculous here, because £15k is still not a bargain and you don't want to compromise its everyday suitability. But with the Cupra improved so appealingly by SEAT's own Performance Pack, there's nothing to say you couldn't go about doing your own.


Look at what former PH contributor Dale did with his Cupra ST. A remap, new wheels and tyres and some Endless brake pads saw it capable of a 7:53 Bridge-to-Gantry lap, which is incredibly fast - although it should be said that some driver talent did contribute as well...

Point being that an even more enjoyable, more exciting and more capable hot hatch could be made fairly simply from this Leon Cupra. A Stage 1 Revo remap makes anything up to 370hp for £599, a set of Cup 2s on a 235/35 R19 wheel is £900 and those incredible Endless MA45B pads are on sale at £557+VAT. Just over £2,000, basically, which still makes it cheaper than this Golf GTD(!) with similar miles.

What you'll have is a car that's still tremendously subtle and won't attract any unwanted attention, while being great fun on both road and track. And even faster. Given how things seem to be, it'll be quite a rare spot too. Perhaps a Megane is yet more entertaining still and there are rivals which offer the security of all-wheel drive, but there are different strokes for different folks and the Leon has always been a very appealing alternative. With a few aftermarket tweaks some years down the line it could arguably be even more so.


SPECIFICATION - SEAT LEON CUPRA 280

Engine: 1,998cc, 4-cyl turbocharged
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 280@5,700-6,200rpm
Torque (lb ft): 258@1,750-5,600rpm
MPG: 44.1
CO2: 149g/km
First registered: 2014
Mileage: 28,000 miles
Price new: £26,940
Price now: £14,950

See the original advert here

 

 

 

 

Author
Discussion

WCZ

Original Poster:

10,533 posts

194 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all
unbelievable how dull these look inside and out

Msportman

279 posts

156 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all
I like it....under the radar a real sleeper until you look close.

I like rarity....most thieves may walk by it unlike R's S3's et al

Only thing as with the previous generation FWD cars including MK5 GTI and Edition 30 once mapped in rain soaked Britain they torque steer. I got to 365 in my Edition 30 and even with a Quaiffe Diff it was great in bone dry conditions especially on track with decent brakes but it was far from standard.

Cheap R's with DSG are great all weather tools.....point to point in the wet even stock they're a weapon.

Get it to APR's Stage 2 and for not a lot of money you'll see 400+ bhp & 450lbs .
That and some decent brakes and it's not to be sniffed at for the money. An M2, M4 or C63 in the wet on a B road wouldn't know which way it went.....all for sub £20k....bit of a bargain really.

Edited by Msportman on Tuesday 9th January 12:28

Msportman

279 posts

156 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all
I like it....under the radar a real sleeper until you look close.

I like rarity....most thieves may walk by it unlike R's S3's et al

Only thing as with the previous generation FWD cars including MK5 GTI and Edition 30 once mapped in rain soaked Britain they torque steer. I got to 365 in my Edition 30 and even with a Quaiffe Diff it was great in bone dry conditions especially on track with decent brakes but it was far from standard.

Cheap R's with DSG are great all weather tools.....point to point in the wet even stock they're a weapon.

Get it to APR's Stage 2 and for not a lot of money you'll see 400+ bhp & 450lbs .
That and some decent brakes and it's not to be sniffed at for the money. An M2, M4 or C63 in the wet on a B road wouldn't know which way it went.....all for sub £20k....bit of a bargain really.

Edited by Msportman on Tuesday 9th January 12:32

court

1,487 posts

216 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all
Would you take the year older £15k M135i instead? I think I would.

culpz

4,884 posts

112 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all
I think these look great. I quite like the inconspicuous look. It's hard to call them a bargain right now but it is alot of car for just under 15k. I'd have to have one with the DSG though and in any other colour than black.

The thing that always puzzles me was the need for such big wheels. 19" alloys just seems like a bit of overkill for me. I think the alloy design though is great. This article should have been saved for the Cupra 260. They're very rare!

Younger Badger

1 posts

75 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all
Have had my Black edition Cupra for just under a year now.Love the pace,diff,build quality and looks.

Only major problem is the epic axle tramp.Sounds like someone is chucking bricks at the bottom of the car.

Anyone know of a fix?

Have also heard good things about Uniroyal Rainsport 3's which are about £50 a corner cheaper than Contis or Pirellis.

Has anyone tried them?

Cupra Black

3,030 posts

218 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all
Younger Badger said:
Have had my Black edition Cupra for just under a year now.Love the pace,diff,build quality and looks.

Only major problem is the epic axle tramp.Sounds like someone is chucking bricks at the bottom of the car.

Anyone know of a fix?

Have also heard good things about Uniroyal Rainsport 3's which are about £50 a corner cheaper than Contis or Pirellis.

Has anyone tried them?
Loads on the FB group about this. I think you cna fit better bushes and a torsion bar to help the traction.

I have the Rainsports on my 290. The Continentals lasted 7K and the Goodyears that replaced them a little less. The grip from the Rainsports is marginally better than both.

kambites

67,580 posts

221 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all
I really struggle to get my head around modern used car prices. This is an average mileage, three year old SEAT for which they're asking well over half of it's original list price; probably 2/3rds of what the original owner actually paid for it. Not a criticism of this particular car or its seller, just an observation about the market in general.

Does look like a nice car, though.

C.A.R.

3,967 posts

188 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all
I think the styling is almost too subtle. There's little to distinguish this from my FR diesel repmobile. In fact, the wheels and seats look far better on my company car!

Where's the proper bucket seats? I'm guessing an option? And that wheel design is awful.

Side skirts were always an option I think, but just looks like every other Leon without them.

Still a relative bargain given the performance available.

J4CKO

41,603 posts

200 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all
kambites said:
I really struggle to get my head around modern used car prices. This is an average mileage, three year old SEAT for which they're asking well over half of it's original list price; probably 2/3rds of what the original owner actually paid for it. Not a criticism of this particular car or its seller, just an observation about the market in general.

Does look like a nice car, though.
I agree, but Its the same as its always been, the market dictates what its worth, its a bit more powerful and a bit cheaper than a Golf GTI of the same age.

We should be glad we can get 300 bhp hot hatches that still have plenty of live left for 15 grand or so.

Was reading the other day that the lower spec engine in the Golf Gti and others, normally 230 bhp is generally found to have nearer 250 and with a remap can achieve nearer 330, explains why I didnt gain on one in my CLS/

Some very, very rapid cars, or cars with a lot of potential to be around these days, though not sure a remap to nearer 370 bhp is that good an idea when you have fwd only, in the dry though these are every bit as quick as the Golf R, at least according to Autocar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5dRujiHbpA


dazwalsh

6,095 posts

141 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all
Quite like the exterior but the inside is a boring dull place to be, which is a shame as I always a SEAT as the youthful vibrant arm of the VAG pen.


Mike1990

964 posts

131 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all
A lot of car the money for sure!

I’ve seen a few Sub8’s with all the extras for 17-18k.

pimpchez

899 posts

183 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all
Ahh

Just picked one up about 4 weeks ago for the same money.I must get a readers car done when its clean an i can take some pics.

To sum up so far after 2000 miles, an unbeatable package at the 15-17k mark with everything considered such as mileage /kit /mpg / pace.

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all

" With a few aftermarket tweaks some years down the line it could arguably be even more so."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKKuT-An8z8




aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all
I wonder when this will turn into a lease thread?

volkswizardph

39 posts

137 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all
Considering numerous standard Mk7 Golf Rs are suffering premature clutch failure, I'm not sure modifying one of these is that sensible unless you do the clutch first.
I wonder if PH contributor Dale's ran a standard clutch
Other than that I am very tempted although spec is quite important.

va1o

16,032 posts

207 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all
Think the article is wrong about the warranty, 64-plate will mean it’s just ran out. They get 3 years from new, not 4!

Mike1990

964 posts

131 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all
aaron_2000 said:
I wonder when this will turn into a lease thread?
I’am surprised its not been mentioned earlier.

Butter Face

30,319 posts

160 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all
va1o said:
Think the article is wrong about the warranty, 64-plate will mean it’s just ran out. They get 3 years from new, not 4!
You are right. If it were a Megane 275 it’d have a 4 year warranty and put more of a smile on your face too hehe

Matt Bird

1,450 posts

205 months

PH Reportery Lad

Tuesday 9th January 2018
quotequote all
va1o said:
Think the article is wrong about the warranty, 64-plate will mean it’s just ran out. They get 3 years from new, not 4!
Argh, sorry, forgetting what year it is... Will sort!


Matt