Why don't more performance car enthusiasts ride motorbikes?
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Esceptico said:
ChilliWhizz said:
How the feck did we get into porkers? Bunch of bloody gay boys. It’s why God made TVR’s.
Unbelievable
I know God did some shoddy work when he created women but I think he would draw the line at TVR build quality!Unbelievable
Do you live in Norfolk ?
TameRacingDriver said:
This thread is hilarious. Bikers claiming that people are pathetic, or lesser humans, or are missing out because they aren't interested. Why does it matter to you? Are you people doing 'add extreme sport/activity here'??, if not, why not, you are missing out. Sorry, you're just coming across as massive helmets.
Is there not a bike forum you can join where you can suck each other off and congratulate yourselves on how superior you all are?
Are you advocating sucking off? Is that your hobby? Surely, if not, you're missing out!Is there not a bike forum you can join where you can suck each other off and congratulate yourselves on how superior you all are?
Bit of a bloody stupid attempt at an insult in the 21st century, you fool.
More relevant than the question of why performance car enthusiasts don't RIDE motorbikes is why they aren't INTERESTED in them?! Perhaps its just a lack of awareness?
The IOM TT, MotoGP, the new Harley Fat Bob and Ducati V4 Panigale are among the coolest things ever imho, but elicit not a whimper of interest amongst most car folk, though the aforementioned four are about as far from the average VW GTI (or whatever the commonest car is on here) as F1 and 488 Pistas are, yet its the latter two that capture interest.
I understand on the face of it why this is the case but am still shocked why there aren't more motorcycle FANS out there?! To wit, my cousin is 34, has an F360 Spider, and will never ever ride a bike because he's scared and doesn't see the appeal, but is almost as big of a MotoGP fan as I am.
Finally, I don't have a bike right now because of financial and space considerations, though I can't wait to get another one. For those of us that live in countries where you can't filter and where speed is prosecuted much more strictly than the UK though, having a bike doesn't seem as worth it as in the UK or Europe.
The IOM TT, MotoGP, the new Harley Fat Bob and Ducati V4 Panigale are among the coolest things ever imho, but elicit not a whimper of interest amongst most car folk, though the aforementioned four are about as far from the average VW GTI (or whatever the commonest car is on here) as F1 and 488 Pistas are, yet its the latter two that capture interest.
I understand on the face of it why this is the case but am still shocked why there aren't more motorcycle FANS out there?! To wit, my cousin is 34, has an F360 Spider, and will never ever ride a bike because he's scared and doesn't see the appeal, but is almost as big of a MotoGP fan as I am.
Finally, I don't have a bike right now because of financial and space considerations, though I can't wait to get another one. For those of us that live in countries where you can't filter and where speed is prosecuted much more strictly than the UK though, having a bike doesn't seem as worth it as in the UK or Europe.
BlackPrince said:
More relevant than the question of why performance car enthusiasts don't RIDE motorbikes is why they aren't INTERESTED in them?! Perhaps its just a lack of awareness?
The IOM TT, MotoGP, the new Harley Fat Bob and Ducati V4 Panigale are among the coolest things ever imho, but elicit not a whimper of interest amongst most car folk, though the aforementioned four are about as far from the average VW GTI (or whatever the commonest car is on here) as F1 and 488 Pistas are, yet its the latter two that capture interest.
I understand on the face of it why this is the case but am still shocked why there aren't more motorcycle FANS out there?! To wit, my cousin is 34, has an F360 Spider, and will never ever ride a bike because he's scared and doesn't see the appeal, but is almost as big of a MotoGP fan as I am.
Finally, I don't have a bike right now because of financial and space considerations, though I can't wait to get another one. For those of us that live in countries where you can't filter and where speed is prosecuted much more strictly than the UK though, having a bike doesn't seem as worth it as in the UK or Europe.
For me at least, every car person I know watches Moto GP and the IOM TT and is interested enough in bikes to identify them on the road. Around half, including me, also follow WSB and BSB.The IOM TT, MotoGP, the new Harley Fat Bob and Ducati V4 Panigale are among the coolest things ever imho, but elicit not a whimper of interest amongst most car folk, though the aforementioned four are about as far from the average VW GTI (or whatever the commonest car is on here) as F1 and 488 Pistas are, yet its the latter two that capture interest.
I understand on the face of it why this is the case but am still shocked why there aren't more motorcycle FANS out there?! To wit, my cousin is 34, has an F360 Spider, and will never ever ride a bike because he's scared and doesn't see the appeal, but is almost as big of a MotoGP fan as I am.
Finally, I don't have a bike right now because of financial and space considerations, though I can't wait to get another one. For those of us that live in countries where you can't filter and where speed is prosecuted much more strictly than the UK though, having a bike doesn't seem as worth it as in the UK or Europe.
RobM77 said:
BlackPrince said:
More relevant than the question of why performance car enthusiasts don't RIDE motorbikes is why they aren't INTERESTED in them?! Perhaps its just a lack of awareness?
The IOM TT, MotoGP, the new Harley Fat Bob and Ducati V4 Panigale are among the coolest things ever imho, but elicit not a whimper of interest amongst most car folk, though the aforementioned four are about as far from the average VW GTI (or whatever the commonest car is on here) as F1 and 488 Pistas are, yet its the latter two that capture interest.
I understand on the face of it why this is the case but am still shocked why there aren't more motorcycle FANS out there?! To wit, my cousin is 34, has an F360 Spider, and will never ever ride a bike because he's scared and doesn't see the appeal, but is almost as big of a MotoGP fan as I am.
Finally, I don't have a bike right now because of financial and space considerations, though I can't wait to get another one. For those of us that live in countries where you can't filter and where speed is prosecuted much more strictly than the UK though, having a bike doesn't seem as worth it as in the UK or Europe.
For me at least, every car person I know watches Moto GP and the IOM TT and is interested enough in bikes to identify them on the road. Around half, including me, also follow WSB and BSB.The IOM TT, MotoGP, the new Harley Fat Bob and Ducati V4 Panigale are among the coolest things ever imho, but elicit not a whimper of interest amongst most car folk, though the aforementioned four are about as far from the average VW GTI (or whatever the commonest car is on here) as F1 and 488 Pistas are, yet its the latter two that capture interest.
I understand on the face of it why this is the case but am still shocked why there aren't more motorcycle FANS out there?! To wit, my cousin is 34, has an F360 Spider, and will never ever ride a bike because he's scared and doesn't see the appeal, but is almost as big of a MotoGP fan as I am.
Finally, I don't have a bike right now because of financial and space considerations, though I can't wait to get another one. For those of us that live in countries where you can't filter and where speed is prosecuted much more strictly than the UK though, having a bike doesn't seem as worth it as in the UK or Europe.
Basic message, people are different, some folks need to accept that and move on.
FiF said:
RobM77 said:
BlackPrince said:
More relevant than the question of why performance car enthusiasts don't RIDE motorbikes is why they aren't INTERESTED in them?! Perhaps its just a lack of awareness?
The IOM TT, MotoGP, the new Harley Fat Bob and Ducati V4 Panigale are among the coolest things ever imho, but elicit not a whimper of interest amongst most car folk, though the aforementioned four are about as far from the average VW GTI (or whatever the commonest car is on here) as F1 and 488 Pistas are, yet its the latter two that capture interest.
I understand on the face of it why this is the case but am still shocked why there aren't more motorcycle FANS out there?! To wit, my cousin is 34, has an F360 Spider, and will never ever ride a bike because he's scared and doesn't see the appeal, but is almost as big of a MotoGP fan as I am.
Finally, I don't have a bike right now because of financial and space considerations, though I can't wait to get another one. For those of us that live in countries where you can't filter and where speed is prosecuted much more strictly than the UK though, having a bike doesn't seem as worth it as in the UK or Europe.
For me at least, every car person I know watches Moto GP and the IOM TT and is interested enough in bikes to identify them on the road. Around half, including me, also follow WSB and BSB.The IOM TT, MotoGP, the new Harley Fat Bob and Ducati V4 Panigale are among the coolest things ever imho, but elicit not a whimper of interest amongst most car folk, though the aforementioned four are about as far from the average VW GTI (or whatever the commonest car is on here) as F1 and 488 Pistas are, yet its the latter two that capture interest.
I understand on the face of it why this is the case but am still shocked why there aren't more motorcycle FANS out there?! To wit, my cousin is 34, has an F360 Spider, and will never ever ride a bike because he's scared and doesn't see the appeal, but is almost as big of a MotoGP fan as I am.
Finally, I don't have a bike right now because of financial and space considerations, though I can't wait to get another one. For those of us that live in countries where you can't filter and where speed is prosecuted much more strictly than the UK though, having a bike doesn't seem as worth it as in the UK or Europe.
Basic message, people are different, some folks need to accept that and move on.
It seems strange, but some people find it hard to accept why others aren't that interested in their own corner of the petrolhead world. The truth is there are loads of things out there to be interested in and everyone likes something different. At the core of this confusion appears to be an inability to understand that others think differently to them and like different things. I'm reminded of a friend of mine, who goes on and on about why people buy BMWs because they're not as reliable as Toyotas and Hondas - in this example he thinks everyone buys cars for reliability and he can't accept there are other reasons to like a car. Along these lines, I should point out that the reasons I like watching bike racing aren't really related to any desire to own one for the road. I just enjoy the close racing that long braking zones, no aero and slow cornering speeds provide. Everyone's different.BlackPrince said:
More relevant than the question of why performance car enthusiasts don't RIDE motorbikes is why they aren't INTERESTED in them?! Perhaps its just a lack of awareness?
The IOM TT, MotoGP, the new Harley Fat Bob and Ducati V4 Panigale are among the coolest things ever imho, but elicit not a whimper of interest amongst most car folk, though the aforementioned four are about as far from the average VW GTI (or whatever the commonest car is on here) as F1 and 488 Pistas are, yet its the latter two that capture interest.
I understand on the face of it why this is the case but am still shocked why there aren't more motorcycle FANS out there?! To wit, my cousin is 34, has an F360 Spider, and will never ever ride a bike because he's scared and doesn't see the appeal, but is almost as big of a MotoGP fan as I am.
Finally, I don't have a bike right now because of financial and space considerations, though I can't wait to get another one. For those of us that live in countries where you can't filter and where speed is prosecuted much more strictly than the UK though, having a bike doesn't seem as worth it as in the UK or Europe.
Simple answer for me is that as a child, and even now as an adult, I have an interest in cars that I just don't have in bikes. It's not something I can explain, just a personal preference.The IOM TT, MotoGP, the new Harley Fat Bob and Ducati V4 Panigale are among the coolest things ever imho, but elicit not a whimper of interest amongst most car folk, though the aforementioned four are about as far from the average VW GTI (or whatever the commonest car is on here) as F1 and 488 Pistas are, yet its the latter two that capture interest.
I understand on the face of it why this is the case but am still shocked why there aren't more motorcycle FANS out there?! To wit, my cousin is 34, has an F360 Spider, and will never ever ride a bike because he's scared and doesn't see the appeal, but is almost as big of a MotoGP fan as I am.
Finally, I don't have a bike right now because of financial and space considerations, though I can't wait to get another one. For those of us that live in countries where you can't filter and where speed is prosecuted much more strictly than the UK though, having a bike doesn't seem as worth it as in the UK or Europe.
A slightly more complex answer is that it is not viable for me. I have no inclination to do any more training, or tests, and I don't have the money to be able to persue it as a hobby. I also have nowhere to store a bike without it going for walks in very short order (the perils of living in an inner-city housing estate with parking at a premium and strictly no garages).
Finally, the cherry on top is that I will admit that I am very much risk-averse and I do see it as a more risky past-time than driving. It's not that I don't trust myself, because I do, it's all the other numpties I don't trust! I've already had my fair share of people crash into me in my driving career and I'm sure it wouldn't have ended so well had I been on two wheels.
I agree, motorcycle racing is for the most part more exciting to watch.
I have a bike licence and had a bike - I would only use it when it was decent weather, and then regretted not using the convertible instead, plus the faff of all the safety stuff I needed to put on.
The driving standard isn't amazing so found myself concerned for my safety and opted for 4 wheels instead of 2.
I'm pleased I passed my test as it made me more aware...
The driving standard isn't amazing so found myself concerned for my safety and opted for 4 wheels instead of 2.
I'm pleased I passed my test as it made me more aware...
All this talk about the faff of putting your gear on when you go out riding, do all of you walk around naked?
To go out on my bike I put on my jeans (with the protection built in before anyone comments) jacket boots crash helmet & gloves that's it by my count that's two more items than you would to to go for a walk, if it rains while I'm out I put on a one piece oversuit which takes less than a minute to put on.
If it's a faff I gues you guys don't like getting dressed
To go out on my bike I put on my jeans (with the protection built in before anyone comments) jacket boots crash helmet & gloves that's it by my count that's two more items than you would to to go for a walk, if it rains while I'm out I put on a one piece oversuit which takes less than a minute to put on.
If it's a faff I gues you guys don't like getting dressed
Tryke3 said:
Because the weather and insurance
I bought this nice little GPZ for my girlfriend, when she passed her test a couple of years ago.Costs £125 to insure. On Merseyside.
If you stick to stuff over 15 years old, then there's no need to be raped by your insurance company. Unless you live in London.
As far as the weather is concerned, I quite agree. This has been one of the longest and most miserable winters I can remember. Yesterday was the first really decent day, and it was still a bit thin.
TurboHatchback said:
Trying to bend statistics to suit your argument is all very well but the simple face is that there are some incidents that even the best defensive drivers/riders around cannot avoid, these accidents are more likely to happen to bikers as they are less visible and the consequences are vastly more severe. A lot of non-bikers simply don't expect and look for bikes properly and consequently do some moronic things.
Riding down a straight empty road at a conservative speed, there is a car waiting to pull out of a side turning, they're there for some time so you assume they've seen you. Ten feet before you pass them and despite them looking straight at you they pull out into your path. This happened to my uncle and he is now held together by metalwork and semi-disabled as a result. In a car firstly it probably wouldn't have happened at all and secondly it would have been just some whiplash, bruising and an insurance claim. There was no possibility of avoiding it, no action or 'skills' that could have stopped it.
Yes the action would be to slow to a speed that one could stop at in an instant, or to move to the other side of the road when immediately approaching said vehicle. I find most multivehicle bike accidents are avoidable - rear collisions are more difficult to avoid completely but can be decreased in frequency given proper training Riding down a straight empty road at a conservative speed, there is a car waiting to pull out of a side turning, they're there for some time so you assume they've seen you. Ten feet before you pass them and despite them looking straight at you they pull out into your path. This happened to my uncle and he is now held together by metalwork and semi-disabled as a result. In a car firstly it probably wouldn't have happened at all and secondly it would have been just some whiplash, bruising and an insurance claim. There was no possibility of avoiding it, no action or 'skills' that could have stopped it.
I have to say that until now I admired British bike licensing but I do wonder if it scares off people due to high time and financial cost. I was reading that the cost varies from £500-1000!!! There's no question that British riders are on average more skilled than North American riders but thats just ridiculous. My license cost me the equiv of £150 (about $300 Cdn) and even when I moved to Ireland and had to learn to filter through moving traffic for the first time (I used to illegally do it at red lights in Canada), somehow I didn't die or have an accident despite having a bike as my only transport for the whole time I was there.
Also, bikers on here slagging off car drivers for using Clarksonesque phrases - wind your neck in please! You're not going to attract more riders by acting like tw@ts yourselves!
Also, bikers on here slagging off car drivers for using Clarksonesque phrases - wind your neck in please! You're not going to attract more riders by acting like tw@ts yourselves!
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