Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol 2)

Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol 2)

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Truckosaurus

11,328 posts

285 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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S11Steve said:
... like the Aventador crash...
Would a similar video today get the same attention? I suspect not.

WarrenB

2,417 posts

119 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Truckosaurus said:
Would a similar video today get the same attention? I suspect not.
I think nowadays there's that many people constantly filming (vertically) on their mobiles, a crash would probably be uploaded by a load of different people or even just uploaded to instagram stories or snapchat, so basically uploaded to the internet and lost in a sea of nothingness.

Truckosaurus

11,328 posts

285 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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WarrenB said:
I think nowadays there's that many people constantly filming (vertically) on their mobiles, a crash would probably be uploaded by a load of different people or even just uploaded to instagram stories or snapchat, so basically uploaded to the internet and lost in a sea of nothingness.
Exactly my point...

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

231 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Carfection’s Lambo vid. Just wonderful, they’re absolutely killing it at the moment.

https://youtu.be/1AWUqgZ_gJY

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Tim, have you done much testing with youtube stories yet?

Youtube definitely have a "throw everything, see what sticks" approach at the moment.

The like to dislike ratio on this is outstanding

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbJOTdZBX1g&fe...

ReaperCushions

6,037 posts

185 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Anyone watched Hoovies latest video on his newly acquired MP4-12C?

The warranty work on it is utterly jaw-dropping!!

Total triggers broom as well. Already on its second engine and soon to be 3rd gearbox. Remind me never to buy one.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

240 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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ReaperCushions said:
Anyone watched Hoovies latest video on his newly acquired MP4-12C?

The warranty work on it is utterly jaw-dropping!!

Total triggers broom as well. Already on its second engine and soon to be 3rd gearbox. Remind me never to buy one.
Is a similar warranty available in the UK?

SL22

200 posts

126 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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Beefmeister said:
Carfection’s Lambo vid. Just wonderful, they’re absolutely killing it at the moment.

https://youtu.be/1AWUqgZ_gJY
Mega effort to even put together 2 minutes of video - was that 10 minute thing a while ago for the algorithms to allow more adverts still a thing now?

0a

23,901 posts

195 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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ReaperCushions said:
Anyone watched Hoovies latest video on his newly acquired MP4-12C?

The warranty work on it is utterly jaw-dropping!!

Total triggers broom as well. Already on its second engine and soon to be 3rd gearbox. Remind me never to buy one.
I would find it unacceptable for any car to have so many critical failures in such small mileage, whether a £500 barge or a £150k supercar. No wonder the last owner got rid. The trouble is that it sounds like early 12c design flaws rather than anything you can actually prevent happening.

Great YouTube content though. It would probably best for McLaren to buy the car off him and crush it, rather than paying out in repairs for the lack of reliability to feature on a YouTube channel with good reach.

bazza white

3,562 posts

129 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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TGE and Archies latest video is a bit cringe

https://www.facebook.com/518766179/posts/101569844...

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

231 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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bazza white said:
TGE and Archies latest video is a bit cringe

https://www.facebook.com/518766179/posts/101569844...
rofl

bazza white

3,562 posts

129 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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SL22 said:
Beefmeister said:
Carfection’s Lambo vid. Just wonderful, they’re absolutely killing it at the moment.

https://youtu.be/1AWUqgZ_gJY
Mega effort to even put together 2 minutes of video - was that 10 minute thing a while ago for the algorithms to allow more adverts still a thing now?


Non car vloggers cinematics are getting amazing, even small channels have amazing cinematography and editing, car vloggers seem to be lagging behind.

Shmee

7,565 posts

214 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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S11Steve said:
Tim, going back to the comment about "the old days" , some of your shorter clips are also some of your most viewed - like the Aventador crash, and some of the early walkaround videos, which I guess have gone viral over time through sharing.

I know the current algo means that daily 10 minute uploads are the norm, but is there any merit in still doing some 2-3 minute clips alongside the usual 10 minute daily content? Would 2 uploads a day have a negative impact on your overall figures?

(and my Missus also wants to know where Ms_Ps IG page has gone!)
The biggest factor in getting a video a lot of views is how long it has been live while still also being current. For example an early video of an Aventador has had 6-7 years potentially being exposed to search traffic and of interest whereas something uploaded now has a lot of catching up to do. There is also definitely less virality to longer form content, although more retention is the key driver to YouTube's algorithms - and importantly, to earnings.

Myself and others have tried occasional shorter videos and I've immediately seen the issues it causes in that because the cumulative retention time is so low, the algorithms actually punish you. Sometimes I wish I could edit together something that's nicely made as we've just seen with the Performante video from Carfection, but sadly as amazing as that is and for a niche audience it's the ultimate content, it just isn't creating the right content for the platform, in this case YouTube and its mass audience.

Please thank your Missus for following although sadly a decision was made to remove the page due to the distractions from the real world and actual work!

jon- said:
Tim, have you done much testing with youtube stories yet?

Youtube definitely have a "throw everything, see what sticks" approach at the moment.

The like to dislike ratio on this is outstanding

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbJOTdZBX1g&fe...
I've not tested stories yet, but you're right it does seem almost a little too overkill with the amount of new features arriving on the scene. Let's just hope that they don't go ahead and break things like the old days...

The response to the annual Rewind is quite amazing, I'm a bit perplexed to be honest!

bazza white said:
SL22 said:
Beefmeister said:
Carfection’s Lambo vid. Just wonderful, they’re absolutely killing it at the moment.

https://youtu.be/1AWUqgZ_gJY
Mega effort to even put together 2 minutes of video - was that 10 minute thing a while ago for the algorithms to allow more adverts still a thing now?


Non car vloggers cinematics are getting amazing, even small channels have amazing cinematography and editing, car vloggers seem to be lagging behind.
What you have to remember is that YouTube isn't the platform for high production quality content; as has been proven by Chris Harris, car magazines, and content pieces like this.

While you and I truly enjoy watching that kind of content, unfortunately we are a niche and do not represent the majority of the audience who much more prefer to watch a longer form piece through which they can be engaged and relate - something that's totally lost when the camera quality goes beyond how they could produce it themselves. It's a strange phenomenon but for example my content is all tailored to be as effective as possible on YouTube, whereas for example I'd love to go on more road trips and tours, driving mountain passes with cinematic angles, unfortunately that's never going to succeed and ultimately this is a business.

You can see it across many genres, success on YouTube is not linked to film quality.

e30m3Mark

16,205 posts

174 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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Beefmeister said:
bazza white said:
TGE and Archies latest video is a bit cringe

https://www.facebook.com/518766179/posts/101569844...
rofl
So the rumours about the LLF collaboration were true!

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

231 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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Had Paul Wallace on our podcast on Wed. Asked a few of the questions you guys posted on here and Paul was really very open and honest, I genuinely think it’s an interesting listen.

I can’t even mention the channel name (last post did that and it got removed) so erm, search the entirety of the internet and I’m sure you’ll find it.

fridaypassion

8,579 posts

229 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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That's poor form. How come the forums are moderated with the efficiency that the "other side" ran their POW camps in the war but yet the classifieds are full of scam ads? I don't get that.

jeremyc

23,510 posts

285 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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fridaypassion said:
That's poor form. How come the forums are moderated with the efficiency that the "other side" ran their POW camps in the war but yet the classifieds are full of scam ads? I don't get that.
Have you reported these scam ads that the classifieds are "full" of?

There's a report button on each advert.

TheAngryDog

12,409 posts

210 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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Is article 13 going to have any impact on you YouTubers if it is passed?

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

231 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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Just to clarify, I’m not complaining that the post got removed. It’s just the rules and we all have to play by them.


fridaypassion

8,579 posts

229 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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No I never thought of that
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