Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol 2)

Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol 2)

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red_slr

11,793 posts

147 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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E36Dan said:
They used Google Earth Pro, don't you know. They said it enough times hehe

I guess you just have to build the evidence, and say to the judge, this fella was clearly going way above the speed limit.

Just because the speedo isn't showing, doesn't mean the speed can't be worked out. I guess the judge didn't take much convincing!
So now you just need to blur out everything except the car... then there is no landmarks for them to calculate the speed from biggrin

E36Dan

7,307 posts

126 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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Joey Deacon said:
I noticed recently that you had deleted the majority of your non track videos, but can we have some update videos on the Audi and M3 please?
Having some time away from that land at the moment - possibly next year

1602Mark

14,027 posts

131 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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JaredVannett

950 posts

101 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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diff goes boom on RS6...

and guess who did it hehe ...skip to 14:00...

https://youtu.be/ia9NrhS_nOE?t=837

jayemm89

2,814 posts

88 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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Oops.

Sten.

1,388 posts

92 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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Feel a bit sorry for Joe, I enjoy his videos and he generally seems pretty sensible compared to many others. I'll be interested to see if he discusses it in a future video. He gets a lot of press cars and invites to launches, I wonder if this will damage things for him.

AaronEdgeworth

8 posts

27 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Quick note - so the conviction was for 65.8mph in a 50. The max recorded speed was 88mph in a single 50m zone. The 93.3 you see quoted was from the original expert report that hadn’t considered any editing etc. It was redone OVERNIGHT before a hearing (they had gone so deep I guess they couldn’t not double down) and presented new findings - and the conviction followed. It seems a bit of a witch hunt and, not having achieved a ban, they seem intent on painting it in the worst light possible. Almost 100mph it certainly wasn’t.

p1stonhead

23,383 posts

125 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Guesses on the speed at the start of this video?

These guys are fking idiots.

https://youtu.be/1LDtUKwLtjg

fridaypassion

5,134 posts

186 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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N what not

selym

8,429 posts

129 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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JaredVannett said:
diff goes boom on RS6...

and guess who did it hehe ...skip to 14:00...

https://youtu.be/ia9NrhS_nOE?t=837
It looks like no-one in that car was too surprised, angry or apologetic. One for the cameras perhaps (not to say the diff didn't break)?

washingitagain

905 posts

15 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Sten. said:
Feel a bit sorry for Joe, I enjoy his videos and he generally seems pretty sensible compared to many others. I'll be interested to see if he discusses it in a future video. He gets a lot of press cars and invites to launches, I wonder if this will damage things for him.
Me too. Although I don't watch that much of his stuff as it seems to be 90% press cars and loads of hashtags for who has paid for whatever he's doing but he seems a genuinely nice, hardworking chap. The average person will see the term 'youtuber' and make certain assumptions which I don't think would be fair on him. There's a list of obvious candidates who I'd prefer to have got stung before him.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

61 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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p1stonhead said:
Guesses on the speed at the start of this video?

These guys are fking idiots.

https://youtu.be/1LDtUKwLtjg
yes Flying down single track lanes...imbeciles

jon-

16,011 posts

174 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Paul has cleared up his MOT situation on his instagram stories. Car has been off the road since the MOT expired.

thelostboy

3,922 posts

183 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Craig_89 said:
It was only a matter of time before the plod caught up with a YouTuber. I'm surprised it was Joe though as he seems one of the more sensible ones given the number of others who's driving is much worse.

I suspect this will just be the start of more people being caught out now there's a case law in favour of the police.
I think it was Joe purely because it was relatively simple to work out speed due to his chosen camera angle, albeit I am surprised the fag packet evidence was enough for a conviction.

For the absolute weapons like LLF, it's all onboard and difficult to verify location and impossible to calculate speed despite them clearly speeding.

Same for motoring journos, who have filmed themselves for years. The difference is the arty angles etc. ultimately mask things, despite we clearly realise from the gear/revs/engine noise that they must be going over the limit.

I feel sorry for Joe - the message was clearly speeding = death, which of course is over dramatised nonsense. In the brief clip I saw, he had short bursts of acceleration which were well within the car's and an average drivers ability.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

61 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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jon- said:
Paul has cleared up his MOT situation on his instagram stories. Car has been off the road since the MOT expired.
Ah but the posters here know better.... wink

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

61 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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thelostboy said:
I feel sorry for Joe - the message was clearly speeding = death, which of course is over dramatised nonsense. In the brief clip I saw, he had short bursts of acceleration which were well within the car's and an average drivers ability.
Possibly for the cars and drivers ability but not on that busy road with lots of blind bends at 100+mph

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

61 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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slowcars1 said:
You clearly didn't watch the video because if you had you would have seen Joe was entering each bend at speeds even your grandmother would be comfortable with. He was only accelerating out of corners and then letting the car engine brake up to the next corner.
Do you find his driving acceptable then given the road type/volume of traffic?

janesmith1950

8,532 posts

53 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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slowcars1 said:
You clearly didn't watch the video because if you had you would have seen Joe was entering each bend at speeds even your grandmother would be comfortable with. He was only accelerating out of corners and then letting the car engine brake up to the next corner.
It doesn't matter. We're all bound by the same laws. If the silly sod wants to publish a video of himself on the internet breaking the law in order to make a profit from it, he (or we) ought not to complain if he gets busted.

No, it wasn't crime of the century, no kittens were harmed, but it is a road where the Police focus enforcement due to a poor accident rate and publishing the video was a daft thing to do.

No doubt Steve Callaghan will be dusting off his Dirty Harry blazer and asking other YouTubers; "This is the most powerful Google Maps Pro in the world. It could blow your driving licence clean off. In all the excitement I forgot how many right clicks I did, was it 5 or was it 6? Do you feel lucky, punk?"

kiethton

11,814 posts

138 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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slowcars1 said:
You clearly didn't watch the video because if you had you would have seen Joe was entering each bend at speeds even your grandmother would be comfortable with. He was only accelerating out of corners and then letting the car engine brake up to the next corner.
^^^ this

There was very little wrong with that driving IMO

washingitagain

905 posts

15 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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All the youtubers need to do it frequent cut-aways and edits so plod won't be able to make the point-to-point calculations.
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