Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 13]

[W00DY]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-Crown-1JZ-GTE-Fu...

[E65Ross]

dscam said:

Might well breach thread limit, is LHD and some questionable issues but lots of V12 goodness and just check out the individual rear seats:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...

Am I the only one that doesn't like those wheels? Otherwise....lovely!

[tobinen]

Nope, the wheels are horrid

[cat220]

E65Ross said:

dscam said:

Might well breach thread limit, is LHD and some questionable issues but lots of V12 goodness and just check out the individual rear seats:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...

Am I the only one that doesn't like those wheels? Otherwise....lovely!

I could live with the wheels however not LHD.

[Krikkit]

bern said:

Krikkit said:

Green or black pump?

Make sure everything works if fitted, and the front suspension should be nice and quiet. They're robust cars though, and not difficult to fix it obtain parts for.

Black. Petrols seem very thin on the ground.

The OM648 is a great engine, I think it's the best bit about mine.

Make sure you have a listen/poke under the engine covers to check for leaky injector seals (the "black death") - any stench of diesel in the engine bay, walk away or barter hard. The seals themselves aren't hard to do, but extracting the injectors after 15 years can be very tricky. I killed one of the two I had to do.

[4941cc]

E65Ross said:

Am I the only one that doesn't like those wheels? Otherwise....lovely!

Correct period 17" ALPINAs would be perfect. As would a set of 17" Style 5/BBS RC090s (the 2pc cross-spokes). Fake ones from two generations later look utterly pants.

[E24man]

4941cc said:

E65Ross said:

Am I the only one that doesn't like those wheels? Otherwise....lovely!

Correct period 17" ALPINAs would be perfect. As would a set of 17" Style 5/BBS RC090s (the 2pc cross-spokes). Fake ones from two generations later look utterly pants.

Those wheels are fake 18" Classic II wheels and really don't suit an older car like the E32.

E32's look great on the correct 17" staggered Alpina Classic wheels, and also 18" M-Paras and 16" or 17" Style 5 X-spokes. Hartge's, Schnitzers and others can all look good but do set a tone and image for the car which can be a little marmite to some eyes.

LHD wouldn't bother me at all in this case as it is, with that rear interior specification, a very rare car on these shores. It has full rear AC, a rear fridge and rear heated and reclining seats.

[Mr Micawber]

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

This is a pretty unusual one within thread budget. Granted, it isn't going to set your trousers on fire with its pace or dynamics, but it does feel very 'thread'. To my eye these are pretty handsome old buses especially when complete with Mexican hat wheels and velour. The colour combination here doesn't put me off either - although given that it is being sold by a dealer, there may be some cause for concern at this price?

[Prinny]

Zonergem said:

Quick thread poll:

How many cars have you bought since 1 Jan 2018?

Zonergem: 2

Two here too (Cyprus 330d and the SL). Working on a 3rd though?

[Mr Micawber]

Ignore the 230.

I have just seen the MOT history and the rust under the rear window.

It's a no from me. As you were.

[longblackcoat]

Krikkit said:

bern said:

Krikkit said:

Green or black pump?

Make sure everything works if fitted, and the front suspension should be nice and quiet. They're robust cars though, and not difficult to fix it obtain parts for.

Black. Petrols seem very thin on the ground.

The OM648 is a great engine, I think it's the best bit about mine.

Make sure you have a listen/poke under the engine covers to check for leaky injector seals (the "black death") - any stench of diesel in the engine bay, walk away or barter hard. The seals themselves aren't hard to do, but extracting the injectors after 15 years can be very tricky. I killed one of the two I had to do.

The other thing is the transmission (the 722.6, I think, though I welcome correction by beardy types with better knowledge than mine) which is, despite being 'just' a 5-speeder, is one of the nicest I've used. Not as good from an efficiency perspective as the 722.9 7G-Tronic on my W221, but more unobtrusive

[Krikkit]

longblackcoat said:

Krikkit said:

bern said:

Krikkit said:

Green or black pump?

Make sure everything works if fitted, and the front suspension should be nice and quiet. They're robust cars though, and not difficult to fix it obtain parts for.

Black. Petrols seem very thin on the ground.

The OM648 is a great engine, I think it's the best bit about mine.

Make sure you have a listen/poke under the engine covers to check for leaky injector seals (the "black death") - any stench of diesel in the engine bay, walk away or barter hard. The seals themselves aren't hard to do, but extracting the injectors after 15 years can be very tricky. I killed one of the two I had to do.

The other thing is the transmission (the 722.6, I think, though I welcome correction by beardy types with better knowledge than mine) which is, despite being 'just' a 5-speeder, is one of the nicest I've used. Not as good from an efficiency perspective as the 722.9 7G-Tronic on my W221, but more unobtrusive

Good point, it's also very good - it's a 722.626 if a pre-facelift. Mine has a bit of bother with a worn valve body causing jerky changes, but it's easy to enough to replace them, and it's made it to 160k miles without serious malady.

[Dr Interceptor]

Mr Micawber said:

Ignore the 230.

I have just seen the MOT history and the rust under the rear window.

I think its the gaffer tape on the glovebox lid that really does it for me

[olly755]

4941cc said:

E65Ross said:

Am I the only one that doesn't like those wheels? Otherwise....lovely!

Correct period 17" ALPINAs would be perfect. As would a set of 17" Style 5/BBS RC090s (the 2pc cross-spokes). Fake ones from two generations later look utterly pants.

Yep, look dreadful. Can't believe they would forsake one of the nicest wheels fitted to any BMW (style 3's) and bolt on those carbuncles.

[4941cc]

olly755 said:

Yep, look dreadful. Can't believe they would forsake one of the nicest wheels fitted to any BMW (style 3's) and bolt on those carbuncles.

Sarcasm?

Style 3s are

[TheVole]

W00DY said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-Crown-1JZ-GTE-Fu...

This is lovely and I want it.

[Krikkit]

Dr Interceptor said:

Mr Micawber said:

Ignore the 230.

I have just seen the MOT history and the rust under the rear window.

I think its the gaffer tape on the glovebox lid that really does it for me

Poor Micawber is probably flogging himself already as pennance, don't make it worse.

I don't know if it's the cracked dash or the gaping hole in the rear deck that puts me off more. I imagine buying a replacement dash for a w123 is impossible, as the rear deck is a faff but it's only metal.

4941cc said:

olly755 said:

Yep, look dreadful. Can't believe they would forsake one of the nicest wheels fitted to any BMW (style 3's) and bolt on those carbuncles.

Sarcasm?

Style 3s are

Nope, magnificent.

[4941cc]

Krikkit said:

Nope, magnificent.

Horrid, but fashionable at the time. Reminds me of the best looking wheels ever made - the original DB7's ten spokes - with wheel covers fitted. Or the slotted efforts of the XJ220.

[Zonergem]

4941cc said:

Reminds me of the best looking wheels ever made - the original DB7's ten spokes

[gentle cough] Not the AMG OZ Aero 3s in 17" staggered fitment?
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[SpeckledJim]

I for one am a big fan of a bin-lid alloy wheel design.