Modern car design

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vixen1700

23,027 posts

271 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
However, the flipside. TVR make their new car smiley, you only need to read the TVR thread to see how that's gone down.
Indeed, that's something I've never understood. The best selling TVR, the Chimaera is far from aggressive looking from the front.

People are just odd. hehe

f1nn

2,693 posts

193 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Ninja59 said:
The last bit about sporty styling is really just a UK thing, more than Europe (if we just focused on Europe for the moment).

Look at it like this BMW sell (and have sold in previous generations) non sporty, more comfort focused versions that have flopped in the UK, but sold well in Europe.

Look at the current gen 5 series (G30) saloon:
Germany - Sport, Luxury Line and M Sport Package
UK - SE or M Sport take your choice, BMW UK removed the option for the luxury line as it just did not sell here.

I think the UK therefore is a "peculiar" market in that everything must look sporty, but in reality is fitted with tiny engines in most cases or the full fat variant that some people may not particularly want.

In some cases I would love versions like that over here (for example the M550i, which is the now infamous 4.4 litre V8 with slightly less go than the M5, but can be specified to look "normal").

And I say all of the above as a 640D Gran Coupe M Sport owner. I much prefer the ride on 17's in the Winter. The 20's are a nightmare, but in Summer are just about "okay".

If you want to achieve the above the only BMW focused variant is to look at Alpina. Hugely frustrating.

Edited by Ninja59 on Tuesday 1st January 12:00
While I don’t disagreewith what you’ve said, BMW have sold another M Sport spec car...why wouldn’t they think that’s what people want?

F1GTRUeno

6,362 posts

219 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Old man in complaining that things of youth were better/more interesting shocker.

CanAm

9,252 posts

273 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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f1nn said:
Ah, but I can’t tell BMW saloons apart. Er...are you surprised that a customer of a 3 series, typically a company car driver, would like their car to look like a 5 series?
As they say in Germany (but in German, obviously), "Same sausage; different lengths".