RE: Ford Mondeo ST24: Spotted

RE: Ford Mondeo ST24: Spotted

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Seesure

926 posts

177 months

Tuesday 15th January
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I never had the St24 - having opted instead to have the 2.5 Ghia X with the ST body kit and suspension - simply because of the higher spec of the Ghia X.

I then followed that with an St200 tourer which was a bit quicker than the Ghia X but over all I preferred the Ghia X, both were moderately quick, seeing over 140mph on the odometer several times whilst travelling across Europe.

Of the two the GhiaX drew more attention simply because of the metallic paintwork and highly chromed alloys.

The St200 felt more special as there was only around 150 tourers registered in the UK, plus when on a rolling road it was delivering 216bhp as standard before it was tweeked a little to take it up to 220.

As a future classic with the St24? IMHO not a chance, it was never really special enough it was another option in the range just up from the SI, the engine was the standard 2.5l Duratec that was available in other models and all you really got was a "sports" suspension. Plus I always thought the hatch back Mondeo was pig ugly although there might be the odd 4 door saloon kicking around.

My St200 died at 203k miles on the clock with a head gasket failure - I sold it to my indy for £500 and he dropped a replacement engine in did loads of welding underneath and sold it on but it's been sorned since 2017.

The 4 door saloon or tourer of the St200 might be worth holding on to for a few years if they've not been messed around with...




Helicopter123

5,100 posts

94 months

Tuesday 15th January
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These weren't that bad back in the day, but I really don't understand how they could ever be considered 'special' or 'collectable'.

fernando the frog

99 posts

6 months

Tuesday 15th January
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my dad had a st200 estate, it's been sorn for years now i'd love to buy it back one day

JamesL

39 posts

90 months

Tuesday 15th January
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832ark said:
stevekoz said:
As for the ST24 it always felt like its poorer cousin not a direct descendant. It did not handle as well and the engine was not a "performance" piece in any shape.
Nor was the ST200. 200bhp from 2.5 litres is not exactly exciting and way below the specific output I’d expect from something even remotely sporty. A stty boat anchor.
Remember this was the late 90’s when a BMW 328i made 193bhp. 80hp per litre wasn’t bad at all. Similar to an e39 m5 in fact.

jonwm

1,024 posts

52 months

Tuesday 15th January
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I really wanted one of these. My first love was a mk1 2.0 si I wanted one so bad as a 15 year old. Had a picture cut from the brochure on my bedroom wall
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Turbotechnic

467 posts

14 months

Tuesday 15th January
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Wow there's a lot of hate for the old mondingo st. Personally speaking I always thought they were a cracking car. At least the mondeo handled and was a nice car to drive than a vectra. The XR4i of its time.

eggbod

92 posts

124 months

Tuesday 15th January
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i always remember following mondeo of this vintage on the motorway, most of them had a cracked and flapping back bumper.

832ark

747 posts

94 months

Tuesday 15th January
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JamesL said:
832ark said:
stevekoz said:
As for the ST24 it always felt like its poorer cousin not a direct descendant. It did not handle as well and the engine was not a "performance" piece in any shape.
Nor was the ST200. 200bhp from 2.5 litres is not exactly exciting and way below the specific output I’d expect from something even remotely sporty. A stty boat anchor.
Remember this was the late 90’s when a BMW 328i made 193bhp. 80hp per litre wasn’t bad at all. Similar to an e39 m5 in fact.
I’m well aware of that, you could also get a 1.8 Honda making 200bhp and a 2.2 Honda making 220bhp. The e39 M5 was actually pretty poor compared to other M cars before and after, most produce around 100bhp/litre.

Willo26

47 posts

47 months

Tuesday 15th January
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The whole Fast Ford value situation is absurd as it is, without adding this ugly duckling to the mush..

dunnoreally

252 posts

46 months

Tuesday 15th January
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I appreciate I'm biased here, but why would you have this when you could get a manual X-Type with the 3.0l in similar condition for less than half that? Basically the same car underneath, right tongue out

IanH755

1,019 posts

58 months

Tuesday 15th January
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Had an ST24 for a few years back in the early 2000's as my first "boy racer / performance" car and I utterly wrecked it with all my stupid mods - K&N induction cone (sounded nice, lost power), aftermarket exhaust (sounded great, crap fitment and a new hole drilled into the bumper for "ST200 style" twin exits), Ecotek valve (no idea what I was smoking), mapping (expensive and did virtually nothing) and some god awful alloys.

However, with Black Diamond discs and GreenStuff Pads the brake feel was god tier, easily the best "feel" from any brake setup I've had before or since.

I've since had a few more Mondeo's and I'll probably have a few more in future so, for me, the ST24 was great start to a series of cars I've always liked.

Jon_S_Rally

205 posts

26 months

Tuesday 15th January
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Some nonsense on this thread. This car is way over-priced but, with the prices of other sporty Fords, it's no surprise people are having a go. Rarity will ensure these gain some level of desirability eventually, but we're probably not there yet.

As for those saying that these are st, well, that's just cobblers isn't it. I had a couple of MK1 and MK2 Mondeos and they were very good cars. For the era, they drove very well, were comfortable enough and could be had with decent spec. The head gasket was a bit of a weak point in the 2.5, but it wasn't a bad engine. 170bhp isn't much by modern standards, but perfectly acceptable for the era. My MK1 Mondeo was still going strong at 168k when I sold it and I know plenty that have done more. I suspect a lot of the hate is purely down to the badge. The Mondeo took a giant dump on the likes of the Vectra and Primera that it was pitched against.

I'd take an ST220 over an ST24/ST200, but they were all good cars in reality.

howardhughes

275 posts

142 months

Tuesday 15th January
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cib24 said:
No.
I can't better that.

cerb4.5lee

10,792 posts

118 months

Tuesday 15th January
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I had a nearly new one back in 2001 to replace my Xr4x4 and back then I didn't really reckon much to it in comparison to the Sierra. A good few years later though I went for a V6 Ghia X as a shed to run alongside my Cerbera and I absolutely loved it. The Ghia X was a much better spec than the ST24 and I did enjoy the V6 engine in it a lot.


OpulentBob

10,432 posts

118 months

Tuesday 15th January
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It looks like it's got an extra chromosome.

lee_erm

750 posts

131 months

Tuesday 15th January
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Jon_S_Rally said:
As for those saying that these are st, well, that's just cobblers isn't it.
This man speaks the truth. These were class leaders. Find me a contemporary review that states otherwise. Many a jurno' will tell you these drive better than the contemporary BMW. The short stroke V6 wasn't bad either.

This is a Parry-Jones car. They were all bloody excellent to drive without exception.

Strugs

442 posts

167 months

Tuesday 15th January
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Had a rare (even then!) non-bodykit, saloon 10-12 years ago.. bit of Q-car, very capable, but I don't hanker after it..




LarsG

746 posts

13 months

Tuesday 15th January
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My diesel Mondeo is quicker in all respects.

tomic

488 posts

83 months

Tuesday 15th January
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Didn't recognise it without the gaffer tape on the bumper.

SD_1

6,808 posts

96 months

Tuesday 15th January
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I used to have one of these, it was a good fun car. Handled extremely well and the engine pulled nicely, when it worked. They have an IMRC which fails extremely often and can be a pain to fix which leaves them a bit breathless after 3500 rpm.

Besides that though, it was extremely reliable. Nice cars when they were plentiful under a grand, I wouldn't pay any more than that for one though. Looking at the way scabby old Fords have gone historically though, I can see plenty at comedy prices in the not so distant future.

Edited by SD_1 on Tuesday 15th January 20:28