RE: Ford Mondeo ST24: Spotted

[s m]

Power seems about right for the era especially as they did a pokier version in the ST200
The 2.5 in the late E36/early E46 at this time made about the same 170bhp

I’d rather have the ST200 I think - find it quite interesting that both Vauxhall and Ford made performance ST200 versions of the Vectra and Ford at around the same time. The Vectra ST200 probably a bit more ‘hardcore’ than the Mondeo ST200

[F1GTRUeno]

I'm not gonna lie, I think that's aged perfectly.

It just looks so neat and the bodykit isn't too gaudy at all.

£5k? Probably not but it's a good looking car in a way that modern cars definitely aren't.

At least it's not got its bumper hanging off with gaffer tape and has been kept in good nick.

[s m]

F1GTRUeno said:

I'm not gonna lie, I think that's aged perfectly.

It just looks so neat and the bodykit isn't too gaudy at all.

£5k? Probably not but it's a good looking car in a way that modern cars definitely aren't..

£5k seems a lot as you say.......but XR4is in good nick are fetching far beyond that now and they were 1k cars a while back

No idea what this one is like underneath but could see an ST24 fan squirrelling it away for 4.5k

[Ex X Power]

LarsG said:

My diesel Mondeo is quicker in all respects.

Yes, but it isnt 20 years old and sounds s**t

Edited by Ex X Power on Tuesday 15th January 21:21

[Ex X Power]

832ark said:

JamesL said:

832ark said:

stevekoz said:

As for the ST24 it always felt like its poorer cousin not a direct descendant. It did not handle as well and the engine was not a "performance" piece in any shape.

Nor was the ST200. 200bhp from 2.5 litres is not exactly exciting and way below the specific output I’d expect from something even remotely sporty. A stty boat anchor.

Remember this was the late 90’s when a BMW 328i made 193bhp. 80hp per litre wasn’t bad at all. Similar to an e39 m5 in fact.

I’m well aware of that, you could also get a 1.8 Honda making 200bhp and a 2.2 Honda making 220bhp. The e39 M5 was actually pretty poor compared to other M cars before and after, most produce around 100bhp/litre.

But not everyone wants to rev there engines to 8k+ to achieve such power... Owned a Honda S2000 once.... Most gutless bag of junk ever unless you were on it... Pretty much everything left it for dead when trying to keep up with the flow of the outside lane in 6th

[P-Jay]

Charlie Michael said:

P-Jay said:

Well, we've got some nice pics of it for the history books now - they can load it in the crusher now for all I care.

I bloody hate Mondeos.

How come?

I just find them completely joyless.

The interiors (maybe not the most recent one) were loose, the plastics felt like egg cartons, nothing fitted as snuggly as it should, switches were cheap and nasty. The sporty ones usually got very nicely shaped and heavily bolstered seats, but they stuck out like a sore thumb against the white socks and shoes interior and that fking cheap clock in the middle of it!

They always seem good ‘on paper’ they complete with other cars of their size and type on things that you can put in a spreadsheet, but it’s less tangible stuff they don’t put the effort into to keep costs down.

[NorthernSky]

Hahahaha! Look at that tiny little exhaust! Nothing like cars of now!

[glazbagun]

Not a bad car, but why you would buy one over a Type R Accord if you wanted a classic hot repmobile I'm not sure.

[generationx]

At that time I worked near Milton Keynes, my boss had one as a company car. Truly epic brake fade through the miriad roundabouts! Nice car though...

[Lincsls1]

Ex X Power said:

LarsG said:

My diesel Mondeo is quicker in all respects.

Yes, but it isnt 20 years old and sounds s**t

Edited by Ex X Power on Tuesday 15th January 21:21

Precisely this. Doubtful your diesel will be still on the road in an equivalent amount of time. Certainly won't be being even considered as a future classic now will it...

[Turbotechnic]

Lincsls1 said:

Ex X Power said:

LarsG said:

My diesel Mondeo is quicker in all respects.

Yes, but it isnt 20 years old and sounds s**t

Edited by Ex X Power on Tuesday 15th January 21:21

Precisely this. Doubtful your diesel will be still on the road in an equivalent amount of time. Certainly won't be being even considered as a future classic now will it...

I had a mk3 mondeo st tdci and had my arse handed to me by an st200.

[AC43]

God - 25 years since it was launched - makes me feel old.....

I had a 1.8 loaner for quite a while back in 94 when I was waiting for my permanent company car to arrive. After years of soggy Sierras with their wheezy old Cortina engines the Mondeo was a massive leap ahead for mass market Fords.

Revvy engine, decent chassis. The Sierra and the Focus marked a step change for Ford in their bread and butter cars.

[cerb4.5lee]

Obviously I'm bias as a Ford fan, but the Mondeo and Focus when they launched they really moved the game on in their sectors. The motoring press held them in high regard too.

My Xr4x4 had a Magnex exhaust and twin filters on it and it made a lovely noise, I still loved it even after 5 and a half years ownership. When I swapped it for a ST24 it just seemed a little too refined for me in comparison at the time. It didn't stop me from buying another two Mondeo's in the future though.

[s m]

glazbagun said:

Not a bad car, but why you would buy one over a Type R Accord if you wanted a classic hot repmobile I'm not sure.

A number of possible reasons ....

A Ford fan rather than a Honda fan
Prefers a burbly V6 to a high-revving 4-pot
Used to have one as a company car 20 years ago and has just retired, would like something to park in his garage and wheel out on Sundays to classic and Ford shows.

By the same token there will be just as many counter viewpoints.- you can spend a lot on either of the cars ( there's a Type R up for £8k -> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273597644324?ul_ref=htt... )

Someone just after a cheap sporty 4-door saloon is more likely to buy a £1500-£2000 example of either of these cars ....or something else entirely like the Alfa V6 156 SOTW a few weeks back


As always......YMMV

[Fire99]

I drove a fair number of these (and their competitors) back around this time and the ST24 was a warmed up version of a regular Mondeo. However, this really was an era of bland mediocrity for the majority of Fords of this era which wasn't addressed until the Mk1 Focus appeared in 1998. Sadly this Mondeo is dated before it got its act together, and it wasn't rectified until the Mk3 of 2000.

It's a 500 quid car.

[myhandle]

This is a well made six cylinder car that handled beautifully and was in reach of a huge number of people with modest means who couldn’t run to a 328i. Cars like this barely exist these days. They are mostly turbodiesels, all of which sound exactly the same, o very heavily turbocharged downsized petrols with next to no character. Why are people so mean about this nice old car which tried to deliver a sporting drive for a modest price? I hope it gets the good home it deserves. Pistonheads, home of the motoring enthusiast ...

[ghost83]

For that age I never liked the mondeo but I did love the vectra st200 which imo looked and sounded brilliant

My dad had a lovely metallic green vectra cdx v6 (r346 gwt) and that was lovely, always wanted him to have the st200 but it didn’t have the luxury compared to the cdx

[s m]

ghost83 said:

For that age I never liked the mondeo but I did love the vectra st200 which imo looked and sounded brilliant

My dad had a lovely metallic green vectra cdx v6 (r346 gwt) and that was lovely, always wanted him to have the st200 but it didn’t have the luxury compared to the cdx

Yes, I think I'd have the Vectra ST200 over the Mondeo - exhaust always sounded a bit musclier plus could get the LSD and AP s too

[cerb4.5lee]

Fire99 said:

It's a 500 quid car.

I will admit that when I payed £10k for my ST24 back in 2001 my expectations were on the high side after my old xr4x4, and it didn't match up for me at the time. However years later I paid £1k for my V6 Ghia X and it absolutely hit the spot, so I do understand where you're coming from in fairness.

[cerb4.5lee]

s m said:

ghost83 said:

For that age I never liked the mondeo but I did love the vectra st200 which imo looked and sounded brilliant

My dad had a lovely metallic green vectra cdx v6 (r346 gwt) and that was lovely, always wanted him to have the st200 but it didn’t have the luxury compared to the cdx

Yes, I think I'd have the Vectra ST200 over the Mondeo - exhaust always sounded a bit musclier plus could get the LSD and AP s too

I was always a massive fan of that engine too.