RE: BMW M140i Finale says bye to rear-drive six-pot

RE: BMW M140i Finale says bye to rear-drive six-pot

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mudster

669 posts

182 months

Monday 11th February
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banny650 said:
"The car's main ingredients, that twin-turbocharged 3.0-litre engine" errr its a single twin scroll turbo haha
Was just about to post the same! Unless of course BMW have found a shed full of N54's round the back of the factory.

richs2891

732 posts

191 months

Monday 11th February
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Does any one know if the 2 series is been replaced at the same time ?
Thinking of getting the M240I but will hold off if a new one is in the offering this year

kambites

55,816 posts

159 months

Monday 11th February
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richs2891 said:
Does any one know if the 2 series is been replaced at the same time ?
Thinking of getting the M240I but will hold off if a new one is in the offering this year
I think I read somewhere that the replacement for the 2-series coupe is coming next year.

KPB1973

157 posts

37 months

Monday 11th February
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Shame they've never properly sorted the chassis on the current one.

DoubleD

6,911 posts

46 months

Monday 11th February
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cerb4.5lee said:
I hope the new 1 series is a little bit easier on the eyes than this one has been. It is a shame that the 6 cylinder RWD set up is going, and this car had a lot of fans on here.
Has there ever been a good looking 1 series?

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kambites

55,816 posts

159 months

Monday 11th February
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DoubleD said:
Has there ever been a good looking 1 series?
Could there ever be a good looking 1-series while they persisted with a longitudinal inline-six in a small hatchback? It certainly isn't an easy thing to package elegantly with modern hard-point clearance requirements.

The new one is likely to look more generic; whether that's a good thing or a bad one depends on whether you view ugly or bland as more of a sin I guess.

cookington

59 posts

80 months

Monday 11th February
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st4 said:
Gym rats and PCP pilots can get a BMW for £300 still. Win win.
Yawn.

Limpet

3,232 posts

99 months

Monday 11th February
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ogrodz said:
Great car to drive - will be sorely missed by its fan base.
Yep, planning to buy mine at the end of the PCP. It's not perfect, or without its flaws, but I can't think what I'd want to replace it with for anything like the money. It's also an absolute pleasure to use as a daily.

SOL111

56 posts

70 months

Monday 11th February
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KPB1973 said:
Shame they've never properly sorted the chassis on the current one.
This completely.

Would have been a legendary car if BMW didn't engineer the car to have a less than sorted chassis.

I wanted to love mine but don't miss it at all, oddly enough.

wab172uk

1,170 posts

165 months

Monday 11th February
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For the next 1 Series, BMW please.

1) Give it an option of a manual gearbox. Those of us that prefer manuals, don't give a sh*t if it's 0.2 seconds slower to 60.

2) AWD and 350bhp will be nicer than 300bhp.

3) Please for the love of God, make the next 1 series (and 2 Series) an attractive car to look at. The past 2 efforts is the reason why I've never even considered one.

DBSnappa

73 posts

169 months

Monday 11th February
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Limpet said:
ogrodz said:
Great car to drive - will be sorely missed by its fan base.
Yep, planning to buy mine at the end of the PCP. It's not perfect, or without its flaws, but I can't think what I'd want to replace it with for anything like the money. It's also an absolute pleasure to use as a daily.
Going to do the same with mine and then probably pay Birds a visit.

apm142001

17 posts

27 months

Monday 11th February
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Absolutely no point in buying the BMW over anything else from now on then, shame...

Debaser

3,354 posts

199 months

Monday 11th February
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Article said:
the next 1 Series is due to be launched later this year using front-wheel drive underpinnings that are shared with the 2 Series Active Tourer and Mini models
This makes me sad.

rodgertdodger

3 posts

34 months

Monday 11th February
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I am so glad that i have my M140 with a manual gearbox. Its not as fast as many other cars out there and its awful in anything other than warm dry days but that awfulness creates an awful lot of fun.

SBN

947 posts

90 months

Monday 11th February
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After over a year of ownership in a M140i i have to agree, lovely engine... but very poor damping control. Im about to chop my in and oddly i have found a much more rewarding drive in all be it slower mk5 Golf Gti. I shall not miss almost being chucked off bumpy roads and the jarring back pain from every single hump, bump or crack in the road.

TheAngryDog

8,408 posts

147 months

Monday 11th February
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wab172uk said:
For the next 1 Series, BMW please.

1) Give it an option of a manual gearbox. Those of us that prefer manuals, don't give a sh*t if it's 0.2 seconds slower to 60.

2) AWD and 350bhp will be nicer than 300bhp.

3) Please for the love of God, make the next 1 series (and 2 Series) an attractive car to look at. The past 2 efforts is the reason why I've never even considered one.
BMW have just been on the phone to PH and confirmed that they're making this special edition for PH members only. They want to know when you're paying?

Joking aside, the market doesn't want these types of cars now, hence why we get what we get. The people that do want them are very few in number in the grand scheme of things. How many people would buy these new? Most people who want the manual option etc will be 2nd or 3rd owners.

Terminator X

7,082 posts

142 months

Monday 11th February
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The rise of the 4cyl engine is sickening, all the "dramatic" engines making like a Dodo mad

TX.

Jon_S_Rally

203 posts

26 months

Monday 11th February
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So for years, BMW have been telling us that their cars are "the ultimate driving machine" because they're RWD. Now they're ditching RWD. Oops.

Also found this a bit odd: "But for those of us who prioritise driving dynamics above outright pace..." Hasn't this very website criticised the M1XXi for it's flawed drving dynamics on several occasions? To the point that they spent a huge chunk (or got given) a load of upgrades to try and make one work properly in this country? Seems a bit contradictory that...

Part of me is sad that the car is dying, but I was never really that inclined to own/drive one to be honest. The 1-series has never been a great looking car, but this gen one is just a bit of a minger to me. A friend has a 2007 130i and that is much more appealing to me.

Oily76

55 posts

49 months

Monday 11th February
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daveco said:
Are manufacturers thinking long term here?

If every manufacturer essentially sells their car with very similar engines/drivetrains/transmissions, what will their USPs be?
Infotainment smile

cmoose

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43,569 posts

167 months

Monday 11th February
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Terminator X said:
The rise of the 4cyl engine is sickening, all the "dramatic" engines making like a Dodo mad

TX.
To be honest, the turbo I6 isn't a great loss. sounds a little better than a modern I4, granted. But it's otherwise a generic turbo lump. 'Dramatic' went when they ditched the nasp I6.

I'm not fan of ghastly FWD/AWD turbo boxes in the modern idiom. I can't stand paddle shift in a supposedly driver's car. And on paper the Oner should have it all tied up. But if I had to choose between a manual Oner and, say, an A45 to fling down a good B-road purely for fun, I'd take the Merc.