RE: BMW M140i Finale says bye to rear-drive six-pot

RE: BMW M140i Finale says bye to rear-drive six-pot

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kambites

67,574 posts

221 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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richs2891 said:
Does any one know if the 2 series is been replaced at the same time ?
Thinking of getting the M240I but will hold off if a new one is in the offering this year
I think I read somewhere that the replacement for the 2-series coupe is coming next year.

KPB1973

919 posts

99 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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Shame they've never properly sorted the chassis on the current one.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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cerb4.5lee said:
I hope the new 1 series is a little bit easier on the eyes than this one has been. It is a shame that the 6 cylinder RWD set up is going, and this car had a lot of fans on here.
Has there ever been a good looking 1 series?

kambites

67,574 posts

221 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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DoubleD said:
Has there ever been a good looking 1 series?
Could there ever be a good looking 1-series while they persisted with a longitudinal inline-six in a small hatchback? It certainly isn't an easy thing to package elegantly with modern hard-point clearance requirements.

The new one is likely to look more generic; whether that's a good thing or a bad one depends on whether you view ugly or bland as more of a sin I guess.

cookington

103 posts

142 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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st4 said:
Gym rats and PCP pilots can get a BMW for £300 still. Win win.
Yawn.

Limpet

6,310 posts

161 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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ogrodz said:
Great car to drive - will be sorely missed by its fan base.
Yep, planning to buy mine at the end of the PCP. It's not perfect, or without its flaws, but I can't think what I'd want to replace it with for anything like the money. It's also an absolute pleasure to use as a daily.

SOL111

627 posts

132 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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KPB1973 said:
Shame they've never properly sorted the chassis on the current one.
This completely.

Would have been a legendary car if BMW didn't engineer the car to have a less than sorted chassis.

I wanted to love mine but don't miss it at all, oddly enough.

wab172uk

2,005 posts

227 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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For the next 1 Series, BMW please.

1) Give it an option of a manual gearbox. Those of us that prefer manuals, don't give a sh*t if it's 0.2 seconds slower to 60.

2) AWD and 350bhp will be nicer than 300bhp.

3) Please for the love of God, make the next 1 series (and 2 Series) an attractive car to look at. The past 2 efforts is the reason why I've never even considered one.

DBSnappa

86 posts

231 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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Limpet said:
ogrodz said:
Great car to drive - will be sorely missed by its fan base.
Yep, planning to buy mine at the end of the PCP. It's not perfect, or without its flaws, but I can't think what I'd want to replace it with for anything like the money. It's also an absolute pleasure to use as a daily.
Going to do the same with mine and then probably pay Birds a visit.

apm142001

276 posts

89 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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Absolutely no point in buying the BMW over anything else from now on then, shame...

Debaser

5,848 posts

261 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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Article said:
the next 1 Series is due to be launched later this year using front-wheel drive underpinnings that are shared with the 2 Series Active Tourer and Mini models
This makes me sad.

rodgertdodger

5 posts

96 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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I am so glad that i have my M140 with a manual gearbox. Its not as fast as many other cars out there and its awful in anything other than warm dry days but that awfulness creates an awful lot of fun.

SBN

1,025 posts

152 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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After over a year of ownership in a M140i i have to agree, lovely engine... but very poor damping control. Im about to chop my in and oddly i have found a much more rewarding drive in all be it slower mk5 Golf Gti. I shall not miss almost being chucked off bumpy roads and the jarring back pain from every single hump, bump or crack in the road.

TheAngryDog

12,407 posts

209 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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wab172uk said:
For the next 1 Series, BMW please.

1) Give it an option of a manual gearbox. Those of us that prefer manuals, don't give a sh*t if it's 0.2 seconds slower to 60.

2) AWD and 350bhp will be nicer than 300bhp.

3) Please for the love of God, make the next 1 series (and 2 Series) an attractive car to look at. The past 2 efforts is the reason why I've never even considered one.
BMW have just been on the phone to PH and confirmed that they're making this special edition for PH members only. They want to know when you're paying?

Joking aside, the market doesn't want these types of cars now, hence why we get what we get. The people that do want them are very few in number in the grand scheme of things. How many people would buy these new? Most people who want the manual option etc will be 2nd or 3rd owners.

Terminator X

15,081 posts

204 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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The rise of the 4cyl engine is sickening, all the "dramatic" engines making like a Dodo mad

TX.

Jon_S_Rally

3,406 posts

88 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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So for years, BMW have been telling us that their cars are "the ultimate driving machine" because they're RWD. Now they're ditching RWD. Oops.

Also found this a bit odd: "But for those of us who prioritise driving dynamics above outright pace..." Hasn't this very website criticised the M1XXi for it's flawed drving dynamics on several occasions? To the point that they spent a huge chunk (or got given) a load of upgrades to try and make one work properly in this country? Seems a bit contradictory that...

Part of me is sad that the car is dying, but I was never really that inclined to own/drive one to be honest. The 1-series has never been a great looking car, but this gen one is just a bit of a minger to me. A friend has a 2007 130i and that is much more appealing to me.

Oily76

186 posts

111 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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daveco said:
Are manufacturers thinking long term here?

If every manufacturer essentially sells their car with very similar engines/drivetrains/transmissions, what will their USPs be?
Infotainment smile

GhostDriver

878 posts

192 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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Im looking at getting a used 240i in May/June.

Usually announcement of a new model kills used values on outgoing, not so sure about this one. Should I wait now?

Esceptico

7,470 posts

109 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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They have always made a 4wd 1 series. They just never sold them in the UK. At least when I lived in Switzerland they sold mainly 135xi versions rather than RWD.

TheTyreAbuser

170 posts

98 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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I guess it was inevitable that this was going to happen to the 1 series. The only rear drive platform in it's segment? A vastly updated A class stealing it's main (premium brand hatchback) fleet sales? More expensive/less practical to have a smaller rear drive platform than adapting a current fwd one for better profit/sales figures?

When the segment above is still RWD biased for "sporty" saloons/wagons it's a shame they can't keep one USP but I understand why from a business point of view.
Plus, as others have said, a shame they never really sorted the damping, or had a standard fit LSD. But then it does have bags of character to make up for it.

Although I know it likely won't happen, I hope the 2 series stays on a RWD platform.