The Joy of Running an Old Shed

The Joy of Running an Old Shed

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Joey Deacon

2,366 posts

131 months

Monday 29th June
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Scootersp said:
Then you need to move into, semi barge semi shedding!

For just over half your £8K perhaps an IS250 SEL Radar cruise, Heated and cooled/ventilated seats, very few issues with them, reasonable tax, not horrendous fuel consumption there;s a few with low miles that I'm pretty certain would be reliable.

I agree with other the 8K used car can be an awkward price point as unlike the shed you can't just ditch it, but research is key and cherry picking from the least unreliable should see you ok?
Semi barge, semi shedding is what I tend to look towards now and I am sure is going to be the next step for me. For me the challenge is to find the ultimate comfort, reliability and lowest NVH for a maximum of £5K with an automatic gearbox.

The issue I have been finding is that any £5K Mercedes W204, BMW E90/E92 or Audi A4/A5/A6 always has some engine related Achilles heel that will inevitably happen to me and cost nearly the purchase price of the car to rectify.

I have actually looked at a couple of W204 220CDis but the engine from cold sounded worse than my shed 2007 Megane DCi.

Like you say, the answer seems to be the Lexus although I worry about what the real world fuel economy is like?

ajprice

17,686 posts

151 months

Monday 29th June
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Joey Deacon said:
Like you say, the answer seems to be the Lexus although I worry about what the real world fuel economy is like?
Lexus hybrid?

STIfree

1,685 posts

114 months

Monday 29th June
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ajprice said:
Joey Deacon said:
Like you say, the answer seems to be the Lexus although I worry about what the real world fuel economy is like?
Lexus hybrid?
Can hybrids be had at shed money?

That would pose the next question, would you want to? Or does heavily used, old batteries pose a big risk on repairs for shed life?



So far I've put about 2000 miles on my LS430 in the past 2 months, no issues arrissen apart from a squeaky aux belt that cost £13 and a genuine 10 minutes to fix (never known something so easy!). Driving it to Germany on Sunday.


I've been impressed with the Lexus/Toyota build quality over the years. Yes they rust underneath like all older Japanese cars. But as far as mechanical issues, very minimal. I had a '01 GS300 for a year, faultless. Wafted around in great comfort with more extras inside than your current base spec 3 series.


I'd recommend a IS/GS/LS for sure. Or something like a Toyota Avensis if you're not too interested in image but want something comfy and reliable.

Captain Answer

534 posts

142 months

Monday 29th June
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STIfree said:
Can hybrids be had at shed money?

That would pose the next question, would you want to? Or does heavily used, old batteries pose a big risk on repairs for shed life?



So far I've put about 2000 miles on my LS430 in the past 2 months, no issues arrissen apart from a squeaky aux belt that cost £13 and a genuine 10 minutes to fix (never known something so easy!). Driving it to Germany on Sunday.


I've been impressed with the Lexus/Toyota build quality over the years. Yes they rust underneath like all older Japanese cars. But as far as mechanical issues, very minimal. I had a '01 GS300 for a year, faultless. Wafted around in great comfort with more extras inside than your current base spec 3 series.


I'd recommend a IS/GS/LS for sure. Or something like a Toyota Avensis if you're not too interested in image but want something comfy and reliable.
Yes.. plenty of older Prius and Honda IMA's you do see around shed money.. I think you'd need some brave pills tho to actually get one

STIfree

1,685 posts

114 months

Monday 29th June
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Captain Answer said:
Yes.. plenty of older Prius and Honda IMA's you do see around shed money.. I think you'd need some brave pills tho to actually get one
Certainly.

I know (for the Prius/Camry) you can switch out the battery packs for second hand ones. I worked in a breakers yard that sold a lot of them. No idea what the prices are like for them and the labour required but suppose it could be done in a DIY sense. But I personally would be worried to tinker with hybrids, even with an electrical background hehe

Captain Answer

534 posts

142 months

Monday 29th June
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STIfree said:
Certainly.

I know (for the Prius/Camry) you can switch out the battery packs for second hand ones. I worked in a breakers yard that sold a lot of them. No idea what the prices are like for them and the labour required but suppose it could be done in a DIY sense. But I personally would be worried to tinker with hybrids, even with an electrical background hehe
Plus a lot of them are sky high mileage and probably been used as Taxi's etc..

I'm still tempted.. saw a honda IMA on Ebay going for about £400 with a short MOT the other week that I nearly bought but really got no use for it and already got 3 sheds on the drive (was 4 up to yesterday, that's gone to its new home now)

greenarrow

2,295 posts

72 months

Monday 29th June
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STIfree said:
Captain Answer said:
Yes.. plenty of older Prius and Honda IMA's you do see around shed money.. I think you'd need some brave pills tho to actually get one
Certainly.

I know (for the Prius/Camry) you can switch out the battery packs for second hand ones. I worked in a breakers yard that sold a lot of them. No idea what the prices are like for them and the labour required but suppose it could be done in a DIY sense. But I personally would be worried to tinker with hybrids, even with an electrical background hehe
Would you need a brave pill to run an older hybrid? The Prius routinely rated top 5 or 10 in reliability surveys and I know there is a high mileage club somewhere on the net where Prius' with excess of 300K miles are routinely recorded. Aside from the hybrid system and battery, which seem to do the distance, its just a fairly bullet proof Toyota isn't it? Has anyone here got any experience of running an old hybrid?

giblet

7,517 posts

132 months

Monday 29th June
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Colleague has a 08 RX400h with over 100k on the clock and the batteries seem fine. Has been checked over by both Lexus and a specialist.

The current gen IS will make for a good shed once prices drop

Edit - I ran a sub £5k Renault Zoe for 6 months a couple of years ago. Went from a (leased) 4C spider to the Zoe which was a massive change. Battery health was fine despite the age of the car

Edited by giblet on Monday 29th June 11:10

ajprice

17,686 posts

151 months

Monday 29th June
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Autotrader has a few RX400h with 100k-120k miles for £5000

A.J.M

6,609 posts

141 months

Monday 29th June
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A guy on YouTube called Chrisfix have a complete guide on how to change the battery pack on a Prius.
No fancy tools were needed and he showed every trim piece and screw etc that had to be replaced.
$1000 to get the battery pack and free labour if you have an afternoon and tools.

I’m struggling with my own shed buying.

Stuff I like is either sold or the bottom of Englandshire when I’m near Glasgow.
The local stuff is either ropey, rust buckets or simply doesn’t appeal.

Salmonofdoubt

832 posts

23 months

Monday 29th June
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CX53 said:
I go through this in my head almost every day. I've seen a lovely 2014 Mercedes C Class coupe for £8.5k, or £160pcm.
Start putting £150-200 per month aside, tell yourself it's you making sure the monthly is affordable.

As you see the balance increase you'll become quite happy with yourself. You'll then start to wonder what you can buy with the money, and keep saving for a better something.

It works as a distraction from wanting to finance a car and means you could easily buy an interesting and fun car for shed money to sit alongside your very sensible Astra.

Captain Answer

534 posts

142 months

Monday 29th June
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A.J.M said:
A guy on YouTube called Chrisfix have a complete guide on how to change the battery pack on a Prius.
No fancy tools were needed and he showed every trim piece and screw etc that had to be replaced.
$1000 to get the battery pack and free labour if you have an afternoon and tools.

I’m struggling with my own shed buying.

Stuff I like is either sold or the bottom of Englandshire when I’m near Glasgow.
The local stuff is either ropey, rust buckets or simply doesn’t appeal.
It's always the same though.. when you NEED a car you can't find anything decent but then you'll be browsing one day when you've not got the room and see something absolutely great.. was looking at a 7 seater 4x4 up your way but just don't wanna public transport it that far at the moment with Corona around but can't find anything near me

PistonAFC

87 posts

3 months

Monday 29th June
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Captain Answer said:
A.J.M said:
A guy on YouTube called Chrisfix have a complete guide on how to change the battery pack on a Prius.
No fancy tools were needed and he showed every trim piece and screw etc that had to be replaced.
$1000 to get the battery pack and free labour if you have an afternoon and tools.

I’m struggling with my own shed buying.

Stuff I like is either sold or the bottom of Englandshire when I’m near Glasgow.
The local stuff is either ropey, rust buckets or simply doesn’t appeal.
It's always the same though.. when you NEED a car you can't find anything decent but then you'll be browsing one day when you've not got the room and see something absolutely great.. was looking at a 7 seater 4x4 up your way but just don't wanna public transport it that far at the moment with Corona around but can't find anything near me
There's been loads of hoo-haa about these Toyota hybrids in these CV times getting flat batteries. Many of them have ended up with flat batteries if they have not been driven for a week or so. Toyota have said leave it started for 30-60 mins weekly, but too me that doesn't sound too good. Imagine going on holiday for a week in Jan and then getting back to the airport car park to find you can't start the car :-(

STIfree

1,685 posts

114 months

Monday 29th June
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PistonAFC said:
There's been loads of hoo-haa about these Toyota hybrids in these CV times getting flat batteries. Many of them have ended up with flat batteries if they have not been driven for a week or so. Toyota have said leave it started for 30-60 mins weekly, but too me that doesn't sound too good. Imagine going on holiday for a week in Jan and then getting back to the airport car park to find you can't start the car :-(
My family owned a Honda CRZ, you know those little 3 door hatchback hybrid things, a few years back. It was only a couple years old at the time, but if you left it stood for a week then it'd play havoc with the electrics. Had a couple interesting times returning back from holiday to find the car wouldn't start at the airport parking.

James_N

2,165 posts

189 months

Monday 29th June
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I'm in the £50 valuation from WBAC too biggrin

My shed is currently exactly that. Has all sorts in the boot ready to go to the tip, although I am replacing the 18 year old rear tyres tomorrow! I guess little old lady owner before me didn't do that many miles but they are badly perished! but will be £70 well spent! The advantage of 165/70/13's is that they are cheap!

MOT was due in May but 6 month extension there too so don't have to worry about that for a bit! I'm not doing bad for a £250 outlay, so far i've done around 1,500 miles in it and only had to pay out on some new front wipers, an exhaust hanger and a dipstick as the old one had snapped off at the bottom. total spend of less than £15.

Not bad for a Peugeot 106. It also only costs £35 to fill up and seems to run on fresh air, although it does only have a 1.1 engine, its still fairly nippy. Been using it to take supplies to my dad every week or so since lockdown eased a little. 100 mile round trip and the car seems to do it with ease at the moment!

Pricing up a basic service, its only £20 on parts too. Happy days.

Salmonofdoubt

832 posts

23 months

Monday 29th June
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I'm baffled that wbac have just given me a £470 price!

I know they'll probably knock £400 off but still it makes me feel like the cars a bit less worthless.

Philvrs

123 posts

52 months

Monday 29th June
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The most annoying thing about my £50 valuation is the 3/4 full tank of petrol worth about £40 in itbiggrin

giblet

7,517 posts

132 months

Monday 29th June
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Salmonofdoubt said:
Start putting £150-200 per month aside, tell yourself it's you making sure the monthly is affordable.

As you see the balance increase you'll become quite happy with yourself. You'll then start to wonder what you can buy with the money, and keep saving for a better something.

It works as a distraction from wanting to finance a car and means you could easily buy an interesting and fun car for shed money to sit alongside your very sensible Astra.
Good strategy. Currently spending anywhere between £350-£400 a month on a car I’m having rebuilt. Once the project is done I was tempted to put the cash towards lease payments on something new but makes sense to just bank it a while and see if anything interesting pops up in shed money as a second/third car

Bonefish Blues

15,681 posts

178 months

Monday 29th June
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Philvrs said:
The most annoying thing about my £50 valuation is the 3/4 full tank of petrol worth about £40 in itbiggrin
By the time they've chipped the customary£350 off the price you'll owe them £300, by my reckoning.

V6todayEVmanana

239 posts

99 months

Monday 29th June
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It seems there are some cars WeBuyAnyCar are just not interested in hence give a low price to deter a possible trade.

Also I thought they due to the covid situation they are reducing the money held up in cars, hence don't want too much stock.

I don't think you should value your car on the figure from WeBuyAnyCar.

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In this month Car Mechanics magazine there is an article on "A car from the price of 1 months PCP", the writer brought a Ford Mondeo 1.8 for around £270. Was happy with it for the journeys he has done so far. Was like reading this thread smile Sheds may be all bought up soon ;-p