RE: Range Rover Evoque P250: Driven
Discussion
300bhp/ton said:
Looking at the proportions I wonder if it's a variation of the F-Pace platform, which is also under the Velar. So 'new' for the Evoque, but not 100% new.
I see what you mean, but that’s not the case. F-Pace and Velar use an aluminium platform. This one is a steel platform.
Had a Autobiography as a hire car (when XC90 was written) and I was quite impressed.
It drove nicely, engine was ok and the amount of kit on it was pretty impressive.
It was also not as cramped as it looked. The 3 kids fitted in the back ok (just as well as the Mondeo we had before the XC90).
Loved all the tech in it but it was £55k new which I thought was a little steep.
Can't believe new one is 1800kgs+!
It drove nicely, engine was ok and the amount of kit on it was pretty impressive.
It was also not as cramped as it looked. The 3 kids fitted in the back ok (just as well as the Mondeo we had before the XC90).
Loved all the tech in it but it was £55k new which I thought was a little steep.
Can't believe new one is 1800kgs+!
ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
JxJ Jr. said:
ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
Why, why, WHY?!
They are somewhat rhetorical questions. You may not be intelligent enough to realise that.David87 said:
I'd like to know what's actually going with the underpinnings. Land Rover says it's new, but I've seen numerous people say it's not. Clearly it's very different, but if you had a sniffer dog trained to detect old Mondeo bits (niche, I know), I suspect it might take some interest in the new Evoque. I believe the Discovery Sport facelift is going to adopt this 'new' platform too. I can't see how it can be completely new if it's going to be grafted onto an existing car. Happy to be proved wrong though!
As an aside, my parents have ordered one to replace their current Evoque. P300 R-Dynamic HSE, few options, £59K.
Sure, it'll be a nice car, but £59k is fierce.
Your sniffer dog has been stuffing its nose into too many arses. As an aside, my parents have ordered one to replace their current Evoque. P300 R-Dynamic HSE, few options, £59K.
Sure, it'll be a nice car, but £59k is fierce.What is it with JLR that brings out so many armchair experts on PH? And why do those "experts" insist on believing all the old rubbish they've heard down the pub?
They're rhetorical questions too. Or is this just a rebodied Ford Anglia?
JLR are launching many new models on new platforms and like all manufacturers they will be sharing those platforms across a number of models. I really can't be bothered to list them again as I seem to have to do that with every new JLR announcement. But if you really think that this based on a Mondeo then tell everyone you know - but not your dog. He will have his own problems.
JxJ Jr. said:
ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
JxJ Jr. said:
ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
Why, why, WHY?!
They are somewhat rhetorical questions. You may not be intelligent enough to realise that.
JxJ Jr. said:
Cold said:
JxJ Jr. said:
The "all new underpinnings" are not new, other than in name.
Yes they are. Ares said:
All the complaining about a spec'd 300bhp Evoque being £55/59k, this is an era when a moderately spec'd 250bhp 3-series is £45k and the same engine in an X4 is well over £50k.
And 1800kg for an SUV isn't anything OTT nowadays.
No no matie, you will get a very good discount on a 3 series and the X4 at that level will have a 6 cylinder-engine M40i which is 50k with available discounts and 56k with some nice fruit. A thunderous 360hp SUV compared to an anaemic piss take And 1800kg for an SUV isn't anything OTT nowadays.
Burwood said:
Ares said:
All the complaining about a spec'd 300bhp Evoque being £55/59k, this is an era when a moderately spec'd 250bhp 3-series is £45k and the same engine in an X4 is well over £50k.
And 1800kg for an SUV isn't anything OTT nowadays.
No no matie, you will get a very good discount on a 3 series and the X4 at that level will have a 6 cylinder-engine M40i which is 50k with available discounts and 56k with some nice fruit. A thunderous 360hp SUV compared to an anaemic piss take And 1800kg for an SUV isn't anything OTT nowadays.
Ares you make a good point about a moderately species 330i being that price, I usually use that example for a lot of cars when people moan about a car being pricey.
BMW are now selling X4 M40i’s and M40d’s now though, not sure what price they are.
Either way, I’d rather pay 10 grand extra for the BMW’s than the RR Evoque, bigger more premium cars, apples and oranges though. I think the X1 is more of a competitor to the Evoque which doesn’t nudge 55k, even with every box ticked.
BMW are now selling X4 M40i’s and M40d’s now though, not sure what price they are.
Either way, I’d rather pay 10 grand extra for the BMW’s than the RR Evoque, bigger more premium cars, apples and oranges though. I think the X1 is more of a competitor to the Evoque which doesn’t nudge 55k, even with every box ticked.
Burwood said:
Ares said:
....and that X4 is 1900kg.
So you were saying about the 1800kg, £55k 300bhp Evoque being heavy/expensive/slow.....?
It's 1860 so 50kg heavier and 100hp more power. The X4 is quite a lot larger too. A lot longer and wider.So you were saying about the 1800kg, £55k 300bhp Evoque being heavy/expensive/slow.....?
I’d rather pay 55k and get a proper 3.0 6 as seen in the SQ5, GLC350d/43 and X3/X4 30d/40i
Chestrockwell said:
Burwood said:
Ares said:
....and that X4 is 1900kg.
So you were saying about the 1800kg, £55k 300bhp Evoque being heavy/expensive/slow.....?
It's 1860 so 50kg heavier and 100hp more power. The X4 is quite a lot larger too. A lot longer and wider.So you were saying about the 1800kg, £55k 300bhp Evoque being heavy/expensive/slow.....?
I’d rather pay 55k and get a proper 3.0 6 as seen in the SQ5, GLC350d/43 and X3/X4 30d/40i
JxJ Jr. said:
Cold said:
JxJ Jr. said:
The "all new underpinnings" are not new, other than in name.
Yes they are. NickGibbs said:
JxJ Jr. said:
Cold said:
JxJ Jr. said:
The "all new underpinnings" are not new, other than in name.
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