RE: Range Rover Evoque P250: Driven

RE: Range Rover Evoque P250: Driven

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DaveTheRave87

1,221 posts

28 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Will there be a convertible?

Asking for a friend...

David87

5,138 posts

151 months

Wednesday 13th March
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NJJ said:
Anyone else here been on the configurator for this and are disappointed by the lack of colours (external and internal) and trim finishes available?
Yeah, the exterior choices in particular are crap. No dark green or blue! Do quite like those blue leather seats though.

legless

771 posts

79 months

Wednesday 13th March
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300bhp/ton said:
Looking at the proportions I wonder if it's a variation of the F-Pace platform, which is also under the Velar. So 'new' for the Evoque, but not 100% new.
I see what you mean, but that’s not the case.

F-Pace and Velar use an aluminium platform. This one is a steel platform.

GreatGranny

6,870 posts

165 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Had a Autobiography as a hire car (when XC90 was written) and I was quite impressed.

It drove nicely, engine was ok and the amount of kit on it was pretty impressive.

It was also not as cramped as it looked. The 3 kids fitted in the back ok (just as well as the Mondeo we had before the XC90).

Loved all the tech in it but it was £55k new which I thought was a little steep.

Can't believe new one is 1800kgs+!

okenemem

305 posts

133 months

Wednesday 13th March
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JxJ Jr.

52 posts

9 months

Wednesday 13th March
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ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
JxJ Jr. said:
ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
Why, why, WHY?!
They are somewhat rhetorical questions. You may not be intelligent enough to realise that.
Of course they are. Nice backtracking right there lol
I see the confusion now, you don't understand what a rhetorical question is. No matter, go ahead and provide answers to the questions.

Cold

6,343 posts

29 months

Wednesday 13th March
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David87 said:
I'd like to know what's actually going with the underpinnings. Land Rover says it's new, but I've seen numerous people say it's not. Clearly it's very different, but if you had a sniffer dog trained to detect old Mondeo bits (niche, I know), I suspect it might take some interest in the new Evoque. I believe the Discovery Sport facelift is going to adopt this 'new' platform too. I can't see how it can be completely new if it's going to be grafted onto an existing car. Happy to be proved wrong though!

As an aside, my parents have ordered one to replace their current Evoque. P300 R-Dynamic HSE, few options, £59K. eek Sure, it'll be a nice car, but £59k is fierce.
Your sniffer dog has been stuffing its nose into too many arses.

What is it with JLR that brings out so many armchair experts on PH? And why do those "experts" insist on believing all the old rubbish they've heard down the pub?
They're rhetorical questions too. Or is this just a rebodied Ford Anglia?

JLR are launching many new models on new platforms and like all manufacturers they will be sharing those platforms across a number of models. I really can't be bothered to list them again as I seem to have to do that with every new JLR announcement. But if you really think that this based on a Mondeo then tell everyone you know - but not your dog. He will have his own problems.

ruprechtmonkeyboy

367 posts

26 months

Wednesday 13th March
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JxJ Jr. said:
ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
JxJ Jr. said:
ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
Why, why, WHY?!
They are somewhat rhetorical questions. You may not be intelligent enough to realise that.
Of course they are. Nice backtracking right there lol
I see the confusion now, you don't understand what a rhetorical question is. No matter, go ahead and provide answers to the questions.
Nice try, but I'm not taking the bait. You'll have to go find someone else to argue with. smile

Burwood

11,393 posts

185 months

Wednesday 13th March
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JxJ Jr. said:
Cold said:
JxJ Jr. said:
The "all new underpinnings" are not new, other than in name.
Yes they are.
How did they manage to develop a completely new platform so quickly? Why is it so heavy? Why is there no mention of it being designed for fully electric propulsion? Why do Autoexpress describe is as a heavily modified D8?
Ive read reviews saying it's sluggish and not a great drive. It's fine. Yet another average effort by JLR.

Ares

8,031 posts

59 months

Wednesday 13th March
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All the complaining about a spec'd 300bhp Evoque being £55/59k, this is an era when a moderately spec'd 250bhp 3-series is £45k and the same engine in an X4 is well over £50k.

And 1800kg for an SUV isn't anything OTT nowadays.

Burwood

11,393 posts

185 months

Wednesday 13th March
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completely misleading article. As shown with the fancy dash and other extras this is a 53.5K car not 37. And apparently you need the 300hp engine as it's pig heavy. so 56k, closer to 60k with real leather. You'd have to be barking. Porsche all day long

Burwood

11,393 posts

185 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Ares said:
All the complaining about a spec'd 300bhp Evoque being £55/59k, this is an era when a moderately spec'd 250bhp 3-series is £45k and the same engine in an X4 is well over £50k.

And 1800kg for an SUV isn't anything OTT nowadays.
No no matie, you will get a very good discount on a 3 series and the X4 at that level will have a 6 cylinder-engine M40i which is 50k with available discounts and 56k with some nice fruit. A thunderous 360hp SUV compared to an anaemic piss take smile

Ares

8,031 posts

59 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Burwood said:
Ares said:
All the complaining about a spec'd 300bhp Evoque being £55/59k, this is an era when a moderately spec'd 250bhp 3-series is £45k and the same engine in an X4 is well over £50k.

And 1800kg for an SUV isn't anything OTT nowadays.
No no matie, you will get a very good discount on a 3 series and the X4 at that level will have a 6 cylinder-engine M40i which is 50k with available discounts and 56k with some nice fruit. A thunderous 360hp SUV compared to an anaemic piss take smile
No no matie. The biggest engine you can get in an X4 in the UK is the 250bhp 30d, and that is £52,500 before you add any options at all. Stick a couple of packages on, and the funkier wheels and its a £60k car.

Ares

8,031 posts

59 months

Wednesday 13th March
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....and that X4 is 1900kg.


So you were saying about the 1800kg, £55k 300bhp Evoque being heavy/expensive/slow.....?


Chestrockwell

1,392 posts

96 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Ares you make a good point about a moderately species 330i being that price, I usually use that example for a lot of cars when people moan about a car being pricey.

BMW are now selling X4 M40i’s and M40d’s now though, not sure what price they are.

Either way, I’d rather pay 10 grand extra for the BMW’s than the RR Evoque, bigger more premium cars, apples and oranges though. I think the X1 is more of a competitor to the Evoque which doesn’t nudge 55k, even with every box ticked.

Burwood

11,393 posts

185 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Ares said:
....and that X4 is 1900kg.


So you were saying about the 1800kg, £55k 300bhp Evoque being heavy/expensive/slow.....?
It's 1860 so 50kg heavier and 100hp more power. The X4 is quite a lot larger too. A lot longer and wider.

Chestrockwell

1,392 posts

96 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Burwood said:
Ares said:
....and that X4 is 1900kg.


So you were saying about the 1800kg, £55k 300bhp Evoque being heavy/expensive/slow.....?
It's 1860 so 50kg heavier and 100hp more power. The X4 is quite a lot larger too. A lot longer and wider.
X3/4’s are Velar size, can’t really compare to an Evoque but it shows how expensive the Evoque really is! 55k is a lot of money for a small stylish 4x4 with a 2.0 4 pot.

I’d rather pay 55k and get a proper 3.0 6 as seen in the SQ5, GLC350d/43 and X3/X4 30d/40i

Burwood

11,393 posts

185 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Chestrockwell said:
Burwood said:
Ares said:
....and that X4 is 1900kg.


So you were saying about the 1800kg, £55k 300bhp Evoque being heavy/expensive/slow.....?
It's 1860 so 50kg heavier and 100hp more power. The X4 is quite a lot larger too. A lot longer and wider.
X3/4’s are Velar size, can’t really compare to an Evoque but it shows how expensive the Evoque really is! 55k is a lot of money for a small stylish 4x4 with a 2.0 4 pot.

I’d rather pay 55k and get a proper 3.0 6 as seen in the SQ5, GLC350d/43 and X3/X4 30d/40i
It's 6 cly Macan money and it's surely no contest.

NickGibbs

767 posts

170 months

Wednesday 13th March
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JxJ Jr. said:
Cold said:
JxJ Jr. said:
The "all new underpinnings" are not new, other than in name.
Yes they are.
How did they manage to develop a completely new platform so quickly? Why is it so heavy? Why is there no mention of it being designed for fully electric propulsion? Why do Autoexpress describe is as a heavily modified D8?
These are good questions. It also can't be an all-new platform because they're going to phase it out mid next decade in favour of the MLA platform to cover pretty much everything, ie ICE, PHEV, EV.

Burwood

11,393 posts

185 months

Wednesday 13th March
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NickGibbs said:
JxJ Jr. said:
Cold said:
JxJ Jr. said:
The "all new underpinnings" are not new, other than in name.
Yes they are.
How did they manage to develop a completely new platform so quickly? Why is it so heavy? Why is there no mention of it being designed for fully electric propulsion? Why do Autoexpress describe is as a heavily modified D8?
These are good questions. It also can't be an all-new platform because they're going to phase it out mid next decade in favour of the MLA platform to cover pretty much everything, ie ICE, PHEV, EV.
It's competitors are Volvo XC40 against which is it 200kg heavier! My wife really likes them but I just couldn't!