Birmingham Crash

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rustfalia

1,805 posts

116 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Audi driver will probably be in a different country by now.

keith333

317 posts

92 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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st4 said:
SydneyBridge said:
Plunging a knife into someone is premeditated, with intent to kill/seriously injure, but racing at excessive speeds, it could be argued, has just as much intent. if you are racing at hugely excessive speed and hit something/someone, it is not going to end well. a recklessly driven car is a potentially lethal weapon
I don't agree. For a start your scenario is almost certain to result in death - and it's a malicious action.

How many speeding/wreckless events end like this - relatively very very few. Hence the punishment that will come will not match that of a knife attacker.
I have to agree with Sydney. Cars are lethal weapons when driven recklessly and those who kill with cars deserve to rot in jail for many years.

Note the word "recklessly", this is not about simple speeding.

wack

2,071 posts

156 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Shakermaker said:
Speed cameras turned off to save money?

Never heard that one before. Certainly goes against the oft-cited belief on here that they are only ever put in place to make money
They might have been turned off back when they had film in them but surely these days they're all digital

pimpchez

887 posts

133 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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wack said:
Shakermaker said:
Speed cameras turned off to save money?

Never heard that one before. Certainly goes against the oft-cited belief on here that they are only ever put in place to make money
They might have been turned off back when they had film in them but surely these days they're all digital
I live down the road , cameras defo dont work .Its clear they have jumped the lights , in between the lights you can definitely do about 100 in a stock S3 which obviously isnt as fast as a 600bhp conti GT. I see it as the S3 trying to catch up , the lights have long gone red frown .
Anyway i am pretty sure they are putting average speed cameras down there this week.

Tom _M

126 posts

20 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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I know the average speed ones are going in soon, but not sure what stretches are being covered.

I think they were turned off a few years ago (plan was 3 years iirc) as couldn't afford to convert to digital. Is over that now, but probably haven't got round to converting, or were waiting to change to average ones.

pimpchez

887 posts

133 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Tom _M said:
I know the average speed ones are going in soon, but not sure what stretches are being covered.

I think they were turned off a few years ago (plan was 3 years iirc) as couldn't afford to convert to digital. Is over that now, but probably haven't got round to converting, or were waiting to change to average ones.
So the crash happened at the wolves end by looks of it , i believe the average cameras will be from Dudley to Birmingham

to3m

1,006 posts

120 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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rambo19 said:
Russian Troll Bot said:
I wonder if the Bentley will transpire to be a hire car from a company owned by his uncle's cousin's mate's brother?
Going out on a limb here, i'm going to say innit bruvs in hire cars............................
I don't understand this reference.

Do you think you could spell it out for the rest of us?

iSore

4,011 posts

94 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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SydneyBridge said:
I assume the Police know who the owner of the Audi is, at it was left at the scene.
Depends whose name is on the logbook innit.

kev1974

3,848 posts

79 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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There are average speed cameras on some stretches of the A406 North Circular around London. Speed limits vary 30/40/50 depending on the exact location. They do nothing to stop lunatics that weave in and out of "normal speed" traffic.

And they certainly don't eliminate speeding, I don't know whether they're actually turned off, or have a generous threshold above the limit, or tons of the cars on there are either stolen or on false plates, or drivers are clever about where the cameras are relative to where they joined the road or intend to leave it. But I still see vehicles rocketing past me at way above the posted speed limit every time I go on that road. The worst part is the flyover above Staples Corner and the westbound junction just before it, it's signed as 40mph but that seems to be the absolute minimum speed people do over it!

echazfraz

453 posts

97 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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SydneyBridge said:
that damage to the BMW certainly matches the frontal damage to the Audi
As in they're both panned in?

markcoznottz

5,434 posts

174 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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to3m said:
rambo19 said:
Russian Troll Bot said:
I wonder if the Bentley will transpire to be a hire car from a company owned by his uncle's cousin's mate's brother?
Going out on a limb here, i'm going to say innit bruvs in hire cars............................
I don't understand this reference.

Do you think you could spell it out for the rest of us?
You know exactly what he means, but you daren't accuse him of casual racism because you know damn well he's on the money.

to3m

1,006 posts

120 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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markcoznottz said:
to3m said:
rambo19 said:
Russian Troll Bot said:
I wonder if the Bentley will transpire to be a hire car from a company owned by his uncle's cousin's mate's brother?
Going out on a limb here, i'm going to say innit bruvs in hire cars............................
I don't understand this reference.

Do you think you could spell it out for the rest of us?
You know exactly what he means, but you daren't accuse him of casual racism because you know damn well he's on the money.
Well, casual racism was certainly a likely option, but as long as it remains so unclear, it's not for me to accuse anybody of anything specific.

If it does turn out to be casual racism, then of course I will happily accuse him of that, but not before then. I'd like to have the facts at my disposal first.

anonymous-user

4 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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to3m said:
Well, casual racism was certainly a likely option, but as long as it remains so unclear, it's not for me to accuse anybody of anything specific.

If it does turn out to be casual racism, then of course I will happily accuse him of that, but not before then. I'd like to have the facts at my disposal first.
What an odious individual.

OddCat

1,478 posts

121 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Surely (hopefully) the air bags on the Audi will have deployed and collected some lovely DNA from the driver....

anonymous-user

4 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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to3m said:
I don't understand this reference.

Do you think you could spell it out for the rest of us?
If you don't understand it why would "the rest of us" need the explanation?
I'll bet your cards are pulled so often they are laminated.............and I'm certainly not part of the "us" you refer too, I would dread to be linked with such a gutter character as yourself.

rambo19

2,292 posts

87 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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to3m said:
I don't understand this reference.

Do you think you could spell it out for the rest of us?
Nope.

Hazuki

291 posts

88 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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By 'innit bruvs' I'm guessing you mean they were Asian?

Would you therefore also class the kids by the same tag since they were also Asian?

I don't understand the point of your post. Black, white, Asian - the boy racers are complete and utter tts regardless.

Hazuki

291 posts

88 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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pimpchez said:
I live down the road , cameras defo dont work .Its clear they have jumped the lights , in between the lights you can definitely do about 100 in a stock S3 which obviously isnt as fast as a 600bhp conti GT. I see it as the S3 trying to catch up , the lights have long gone red frown .
Anyway i am pretty sure they are putting average speed cameras down there this week.
A taxi driver was interviewed and said these two cars passed him at high speed near the McDonalds a few miles back on the same stretch, so they were likely doing it for a while.

silver1011

300 posts

166 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Quite a distinctive number plate on the Bentley...


Jbeale96

472 posts

45 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Had to give my 9 month old a kiss and a big cuddle after reading this.

Cannot even begin to imagine what that poor family, and all those who attended, are going through.

And for what? That family is going to have to live with the fact that they’ve lost 2 innocent children over a bit of pathetic and mindless street racing for the rest of their lives.

Lock the s up and throw away the key.