RE: Mercedes-Benz E320 (W211) | Shed of the Week

RE: Mercedes-Benz E320 (W211) | Shed of the Week

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lucebayjack

163 posts

117 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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I have a 2007 W211 e280 estate. It has 150k miles on it. I live on Scottish beach and the only rust is some surface rust round the rear wheel arch. These cars are solid, dependable and super smooth. I’ve been through a few airbags but that is really it. Top cars!

Alex_225

3,781 posts

151 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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My daily car is an early '03 E320 CDI with just short of 140k on the clock. Admittedly mine is a mapped 3.2 I6 diesel and to be honest, it goes pretty well even more so for it's age.

Engine aside though, the car has aged incredibly well. The only thing that's a bit iffy is the CD player, it has a slight bit of rust round the inner arches but I've had it over 3 years, done over 30k in it and it seems to be as solid as it ever was. Heated memory seats, dual aircon etc. All a very nice place to sit and cover about 12k a year! smile

This is mine


AC43

7,481 posts

158 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Nice

Mr Tidy

10,347 posts

77 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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That's a pretty good shed!

I grew up always wanting a Mercedes, and eventually had a W123 280e followed some years later by a W201 190e (manual) which was a great car.

But then I replaced it with a 1994 W202 C280 Sport Auto, and it was the most disappointing car I've had - so far!

Build quality had taken a real nose-dive compared to my W201. And though the Sport seats were good, the ride quality was awful without offering anything much in the way of better handling - and the Auto-Box was pretty dim-witted.

I think I'd avoid any late 90s/early 2000s Merc though given the reported quality issues.

cmoose

45,725 posts

179 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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Superficially a tonne of car for the cash. But, fk me, could these things look any more plastic, inside and out?

MadDog1962

779 posts

112 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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These cars have some surprisingly poor quality trim materials that usually don't age well. I remember a friend had one and the chrome plating was exfoliating from some of the plastic interior parts, making it look very shabby when it was only 3 or 4 years old. However, based on the photos in the ad this one seems to be in decent shape cosmetically.

There has to be a catch at this price (£1295). I suppose it's the risk of a single big repair bill that's going to exceed the value of the vehicle. It's also going to be too expensive to run for many people. Insurance is going to be a barrier for anybody young without a fat no claims history, and fuel costs (at UK prices) will also be a deterrent.

However, for older farts like me, this would be a nice runabout for low mileage use. Good shedding.

The Mad Monk

6,314 posts

67 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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On my 2008 W211, the scruffiest parts are the trims things in the centre of the wheels. Quite cheap to replace, I think, but I would have to take the wheels off - wouldn't I?

Mogul

2,440 posts

173 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
On my 2008 W211, the scruffiest parts are the trims things in the centre of the wheels. Quite cheap to replace, I think, but I would have to take the wheels off - wouldn't I?
Hmmmn...If they are fit for the bin, a smart tap with a hammer and screwdriver would pierce the centre and you could pry them off in a jiffy.

AC43

7,481 posts

158 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
On my 2008 W211, the scruffiest parts are the trims things in the centre of the wheels. Quite cheap to replace, I think, but I would have to take the wheels off - wouldn't I?
Nope you can prise them out and push the new ones in.

Alex_225

3,781 posts

151 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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cmoose said:
Superficially a tonne of car for the cash. But, fk me, could these things look any more plastic, inside and out?
Not sure how the outside looks plastic but the interior is definitely old school. It does depend on the colour of the 'wooden' finish though. I believe it's veneered rather than solid wood but I think the greyer type interiors looks better. I don't think it looks too bad though if I'm honest, nicely ergonomic and very comfortable.




MadDog1962 said:
These cars have some surprisingly poor quality trim materials that usually don't age well. I remember a friend had one and the chrome plating was exfoliating from some of the plastic interior parts, making it look very shabby when it was only 3 or 4 years old. However, based on the photos in the ad this one seems to be in decent shape cosmetically.
That's not ideal on a young car although from experience I can't say I've noticed poor wear and tear inside or out. Entirely possible they went through a phase of poor materials.

The Mad Monk said:
On my 2008 W211, the scruffiest parts are the trims things in the centre of the wheels. Quite cheap to replace, I think, but I would have to take the wheels off - wouldn't I?
Velcro and locking pliers did the job on my other half's wheels. Clean up the centre cap, stick the velcro on with a fold to grip and sharp yank! smile


Jonbvel

1 posts

6 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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I have a 2004 E320 sport with 51k miles on it, rust free.

PSRG

369 posts

76 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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I agree that darker greyish wood that came with the Avantgarde trim is far nicer, with the added bonus that Avantgarde spec cars of that era all came with standard xenons, unlike the elegance, despite, from memory, being the same price. I had a smaller engined version, an E270 CDi, as a company car in ‘04. Was a supremely comfortable cruiser - I have a feeling it was only on 16” wheels?

On the ubiquity of silver - there were three in stock to choose from when I ordered; black with a black leather interior (didn’t fancy that), blue with a blue interior (didn’t fancy that either) and silver with a black part leather/cloth interior. That’ll do...

Turned out not to be sliver, but cubanite silver. A kind of beige... it grew on me smile


Alex_225

3,781 posts

151 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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PSRG said:
I agree that darker greyish wood that came with the Avantgarde trim is far nicer, with the added bonus that Avantgarde spec cars of that era all came with standard xenons, unlike the elegance, despite, from memory, being the same price. I had a smaller engined version, an E270 CDi, as a company car in ‘04. Was a supremely comfortable cruiser - I have a feeling it was only on 16” wheels?
There's an E270 CDI on a FB group I'm part of which has over 600k on the clock, very impressive although not seen the condition it's in.

Those wheels came in three sizes if yours were 16" as my original set were 17" and I'd seen a few with 18" versions which looked really good. Nice, simple design.

cmoose

45,725 posts

179 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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Alex_225 said:
cmoose said:
Not sure how the outside looks plastic but the interior is definitely old school.
It's the surfacing, detailing and the shutlines. Make the whole car look like it's made of plastic / flimsy.

Alex_225

3,781 posts

151 months

Sunday 1st September 2019
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cmoose said:
It's the surfacing, detailing and the shutlines. Make the whole car look like it's made of plastic / flimsy.
I can't say I've noticed that myself but I'm a bit biased haha. The thing feels rock solid from the drivers seat. smile

otolith

39,935 posts

154 months

Sunday 1st September 2019
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Mine seems to be bearing up ok inside, though there is one piece of plastic which has gone tacky. Certainly doesn’t have the bling of current Mercedes, but I think I can live without that.


PSRG

369 posts

76 months

Sunday 1st September 2019
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My recollection is that it was an incredibly solid feeling car, but it was a while ago. Interestingly when you use the MOT checker to look at the history of RE04UFZ it come up as overdue an MOT. MOT due date is 22/03/07. So it’s never been MOTed confused Now, I only had it a year before changing jobs...perhaps it ended up on a private plate after being sold? Would that explain the odd status?

kainedog

340 posts

124 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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My sister has 57 plate e class diesel and has not rotted at all but has been plagued with electrical gremlins resulting in a new dash amongst other things. Just sold my Clk 320 02 plate and the engine/box was A peach but build quality was crap but again no rust

pSyCoSiS

2,537 posts

155 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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These are great cars for the money. A step up in quality from the W210 before it, and even better quality than the W212 that preceded it.

They have their niggles like most cars, but if you can get a face lift (56-plate onward) E320 CDI Sport Estate, it's one of the most complete cars around. Looks good even today, decent level of equipment if you get the right spec, reasonable fuel economy and quick enough for everyday use.

The early pre-facelift models represent so much car for the cash. They are solid and well built, and smooth to drive. The perfect motorway cruisers.

The later (09 onward) W212 which replaced these, are dog st in comparison when it comes to build quality. The local taxi firms mainly use them on their fleet, and they all rattle and squeak. The leather rips on the driver's seat base. The drivers constantly moan about how they have to keep going in for random issues, causing them to be unusable for periods of time. And they always fondly remember these W211 models. The later 212 face lift models are much better and have most niggles ironed out.

993kimbo

2,054 posts

135 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Great cars, but at some point over 125,000 miles the SBC Pump WILL FAIL leaving you with little or no brakes, which is not ideal if you happen to be going downhill on a dark French road at night with the family and dog on board.

I sourced a reconditioned pump and it set me back £800 plus £400 fitting by a mobile Mercedes guy, total £1200 and the car off-road for a month.

All in all, an absolute pain and if I were buying one of these again, I'd replace the pump straight away, so add £1000 to the purchase price if you want peace of mind.

The injectors all had to be replaced as well which was bloody expensive. Car had done 125,000 miles, one owner, full MBSH.

'Elegance' would be my model of choice, Avantgarde has harder suspension springs and I don't like the darker wood inside.




Edited by 993kimbo on Monday 2nd September 10:45