RE: Alpina B3 Bi-Turbo Touring | Frankfurt 2019

RE: Alpina B3 Bi-Turbo Touring | Frankfurt 2019

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EnS

78 posts

94 months

Tuesday 10th September
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Always fancied a B3 Bi-turbo Touring, great allround car but crikey, they're just so expensive.Probably the reason why there's so few on the secondhand market and you rarely see any advertised.
Maybe one day ...............

Baldchap

1,384 posts

37 months

Tuesday 10th September
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I wanted to look at the last one and the dealer tried to sell me a 340 and was utterly uninterested. He told me that people bought them without seeing or test driving them, based on the strength of the BMW and Alpina brands.

Needless to say I didn't buy one.

Chris944_S2

1,473 posts

168 months

Tuesday 10th September
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Burnham said:
Sporky said:
That's an excellent green.

What I don't understand, though, is that I'd really like an Alpina, but have no interest in a BMW.
That's not impossible... I'd never owned any BMW prior to buying my F31 Alpina D3!
Same here, I loved my B10 V8S and keep looking at Alpina’s regularly but I have no interest in BMW’s stuff. I also never enjoyed being associated with BMW owners.

I recall a line from Evo magazine many moons ago where they said “Alpina’s are for people who specifically do not want an M car.” Couldn’t agree more with that statement!

Gandahar

7,080 posts

73 months

Tuesday 10th September
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The more I look at this the more I like it

The arse looks so good, even in comparison to that 4 series concept that had the "grille"



love the 4 round tail pipes rather than square or bits of plastic silver pretend outlets.

If Ruf is not there then this is my car of the show.....


Hairymonster

466 posts

50 months

Tuesday 10th September
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lcs_turbo said:
Is it odd to covet one of these over a Porsche / Ferrari etc? There's just something about an Alpina that is very cool to me.
Not at all - I'd love a Fezza or a Porker, but the day to day attention, both good and bad, and the stratospheric running costs, plus the impracticality of running a sports coupe 2+2 or 2 seater mean the Alpina makes a lot of sense.

You have the performance without the adverse attention, plus you can still get dogs, kids, junk in the back - winner.

eftiem64

29 posts

24 months

Tuesday 10th September
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WANT ONE! Sooooooo cool.

cool

MagicMonkey

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76 posts

120 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Mr.Jimbo said:
I'm failing here as a BMW nerd, but is this the first Alpina to use an M specific engine (S58 ilo B58) - typically alpina turbo/charge/bugger about with the cooking engines not the M division ones?
I wholeheartedly agree as it seems the days of ALPINA developing their own specific engines are long gone opting to use mildly tinkered off-the-shelf units instead.
If there is a D3 in the pipework then I guarantee that it’ll utilise the (unfettered) 40d engine with ‘just’ 322hp as opposed the the 350 of the previous generation which will be VERY disappointing to owners like me hoping to upgrade.



Onehp

1,088 posts

228 months

Wednesday 11th September
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This one will fall short of the M3 Competition peak power but it does have more torque (700Nm). Which is typically Alpina... That they use the M specific engine block is only a plus in my book.

okenemem

464 posts

139 months

Wednesday 11th September
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WONDERFUL

schaeffs

237 posts

87 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Onehp said:
This one will fall short of the M3 Competition peak power but it does have more torque (700Nm). Which is typically Alpina... That they use the M specific engine block is only a plus in my book.
It also leaves room for the S - probably at circa 500bhp...

leglessAlex

3,181 posts

86 months

Wednesday 11th September
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That is gorgeous.... I very very much want one.

FoxtrotOscar1

435 posts

54 months

Wednesday 11th September
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That green.

No stripes.

Multi spokes.

lick

CB 987

226 posts

92 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Big fan of this, especially in green, I will have mine with brown/tan interior please!

I hope to replace my F31 D3 with one of these in a few years time. As others have said, I do wonder if a D3 will follow? I reckon a D3 will be in the region of 370 - 380 bhp?

Black S2K

866 posts

194 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Burnham said:
Sporky said:
That's an excellent green.

What I don't understand, though, is that I'd really like an Alpina, but have no interest in a BMW.
That's not impossible... I'd never owned any BMW prior to buying my F31 Alpina D3!
I do understand where you're coming from...

Wills2

15,941 posts

120 months

Wednesday 11th September
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CB 987 said:
Big fan of this, especially in green, I will have mine with brown/tan interior please!

I hope to replace my F31 D3 with one of these in a few years time. As others have said, I do wonder if a D3 will follow? I reckon a D3 will be in the region of 370 - 380 bhp?
I doubt it the G30 D5 is 326hp in the UK.


moffat

970 posts

170 months

Wednesday 11th September
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CB 987 said:
Big fan of this, especially in green, I will have mine with brown/tan interior please!

I hope to replace my F31 D3 with one of these in a few years time. As others have said, I do wonder if a D3 will follow? I reckon a D3 will be in the region of 370 - 380 bhp?
I wouldn't hold your breath as there isn't going to be an M340d as many predicted.

moldy

103 posts

50 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Simply lovely !!!

Black, debadged , no decals, the multi spokes look timeless to me, the 5 spokes look dated, imo

All these positive comments !!

Wake up BMW your missing a trick, I doff my cap to Alpina !!!

moffat

970 posts

170 months

Wednesday 11th September
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This really is an epic car (except the awful digital dash) and a huge surprise to get the S58 and not the B58 (which is also an epic engine - louder than the S58!!).

My only gripe is the cost, I just know before I even go and speak to Sytner that these will cost more than an M5 or M850i due to zero discounts and high APR finance. I totally get that Alpina do this on purpose as they don't want to sell higher volumes, just frustrating as I'd take one of these over the new M3, an M5... actually over anything else in the BMW line up. I would need to drive it head to head with a C63S estate though.

Max M4X WW

4,193 posts

127 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Is it just me that thinks the engine cover would be more relevant on a V12?

HRCM

66 posts

34 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Front grille looks much better with the black surround - still gawkish though.

The rear lights are still hideous. They look very aftermarket to my eyes.

Tentatively looking forward to the LCI version.

By the way - i think the Alpinafication of this model is brilliant - i'd live with the shortcomings above in a heartbeat given the chance.

Edited by HRCM on Wednesday 11th September 12:58