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has to win an argument on the internet, even when the thread was supposed to be about something different...
havoc said:
And another thread dies because some immature throbber has to win an argument on the internet, even when the thread was supposed to be about something different...
Win an argument? Really? Is that what you think people try to do? I'm just here for discussion whereas some people seem to want to score points and "win" something?? Very odd.And then talking about IQ tests and calling someone a throbber? Really? You don't think that is immature behaviour.
Adults should be able to talk to eachother on a motoring site about cars without resorting to petty insults. I don't see why some can't comprehend that and I'm not sure what some of you are getting so animated about. It's just words about cars. Calm down and converse like grown men.
300bhp/ton said:
This runs a forced induction K20. Seems to do very well overall and doesn’t seem to lack performance, even compared to some of the V8 powered vehicles.
I’d say it is a very durable and adaptable power plant. Although doesn’t sound a patch on the V8’s.
The K20 is bombproof, if properly set-up. If it wasn't an I-4 with all the prejudices against them (to be fair, in many ways I rather prefer V6 and V8 too), it'd have a rep close to that of the 2JZ - people are boosting (admittedly franken-) K-series motors up into 4 figures for drag racing.I’d say it is a very durable and adaptable power plant. Although doesn’t sound a patch on the V8’s.
It's tough saying this, as I prefer the character of the old Honda B-series motors (Type R B18C most notably) - sound and throttle-response were both better. But the K20, in all objective measures, was a major step forwards.
havoc said:
The K20 is bombproof, if properly set-up. If it wasn't an I-4 with all the prejudices against them (to be fair, in many ways I rather prefer V6 and V8 too), it'd have a rep close to that of the 2JZ - people are boosting (admittedly franken-) K-series motors up into 4 figures for drag racing.
It's tough saying this, as I prefer the character of the old Honda B-series motors (Type R B18C most notably) - sound and throttle-response were both better. But the K20, in all objective measures, was a major step forwards.
It's tough saying this, as I prefer the character of the old Honda B-series motors (Type R B18C most notably) - sound and throttle-response were both better. But the K20, in all objective measures, was a major step forwards.
The main issue is people boosting them past 320/330 and not building them properly.
I’m still waiting to hear why the chocolate Subaru engines are so much better?
yonex said:
The main issue is people boosting them past 320/330 and not building them properly.
I’m still waiting to hear why the chocolate Subaru engines are so much better?
After that, the 2 litre blocks in the STI (UK and JDM) can take 400-450 with their semi closed deck blocks and forged pistons. The WRXs are still only good for 350 though.
As for the 2.5 block.... well you want to leave that well alone at standard boost! That's why the Japs left the Forester STI at 265.
rossub said:
Not the same blocks at all. The question you want to be asking is how many are 2 litre and how many are 2.5. Jap Imports are ALL 2 litre and only really fail with poor, or non existent mapping for modifications.
ps the 26 year old 2 litre on my WRX is still the unopened original, despite 1.5 bar being forced through it.
The blocks are very different. There are standard blocks with open liners, and some with closed deck blocks which can take much more power. ps the 26 year old 2 litre on my WRX is still the unopened original, despite 1.5 bar being forced through it.
rossub said:
yonex said:
The main issue is people boosting them past 320/330 and not building them properly.
I’m still waiting to hear why the chocolate Subaru engines are so much better?
After that, the 2 litre blocks in the STI (UK and JDM) can take 400-450 with their semi closed deck blocks and forged pistons. The WRXs are still only good for 350 though.
As for the 2.5 block.... well you want to leave that well alone at standard boost! That's why the Japs left the Forester STI at 265.
SidewaysSi said:
I used to be a Honda man but now I firmly believe Subaru build the best cars ever.
Amazing handling and with 4wd they are brilliant in the rain and snow. I can drive at 90mph on the fast lane of the motorway in the streaming rain knowing I can't aquaplane. The turbocharged engines leave everything behind - by the time those stupid K20 things having wound up, I am long gone.
And as for every BMW that tries to race me, I just show them what 4wd and a boxer engine can do.
See ya' later losers...
Can't aquaplane because of 4wd? Never knew that physics could be overcome so easily! Aquaplaning is not a grip issue, in which the four driven wheels can transfer the power to the road through the contact patch, but where the tyres are not with contact with the road. Hence the 'planing' bit. Amazing handling and with 4wd they are brilliant in the rain and snow. I can drive at 90mph on the fast lane of the motorway in the streaming rain knowing I can't aquaplane. The turbocharged engines leave everything behind - by the time those stupid K20 things having wound up, I am long gone.
And as for every BMW that tries to race me, I just show them what 4wd and a boxer engine can do.
See ya' later losers...
R400TVR said:
Can't aquaplane because of 4wd? Never knew that physics could be overcome so easily! Aquaplaning is not a grip issue, in which the four driven wheels can transfer the power to the road through the contact patch, but where the tyres are not with contact with the road. Hence the 'planing' bit.
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