RE: Honda Integra Type R (DC5) | Spotted

RE: Honda Integra Type R (DC5) | Spotted

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Elatino1

429 posts

7 months

Thursday 10th October
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havoc said:
Terminator X said:
Not the Jap Scoobs, pretty much bomb proof.

TX.
?!?

Same blocks.

I work next to a Subaru tuner. I'll ask them tomorrow.

(PS - they've always got a ton of cars outside for repairs, and not a week goes by without someone towed/trailered over to them)
Which is exactly what you could say about every main dealer or specialist for any car brand ever.

There is a BMW soecialist near me, funnily enough it is littered with broken BMWs and they are trailered in weekly.

The k20 is only putting out a third of the power and half the torque of an ej20, and they are still known to go pop too. No engine is infallible.

Edited by Elatino1 on Thursday 10th October 06:22

havoc

24,604 posts

181 months

Thursday 10th October
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Elatino1 said:
The k20 is only putting out a third of the power and half the torque of an ej20, and they are still known to go pop too. No engine is infallible.
Erm:

K20 - 197 - 230bhp / 150-167lb/ft - Nat-Asp

EJ20 - 220 - 320bhp / up to c.300lb-ft - FI

...so your stats are a little adrift, and you're comparing apples with oranges due to the induction method - there are blown K20s on stock internals running 400bhp, and built engines running 4-figures in the drag scene.

And besides, the only K20s that fail are due to abuse (oil starvation or similar, as above). EJ's have a torrid rep...

rossub

2,313 posts

136 months

Thursday 10th October
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havoc said:
?!?

Same blocks.

I work next to a Subaru tuner. I'll ask them tomorrow.

(PS - they've always got a ton of cars outside for repairs, and not a week goes by without someone towed/trailered over to them)
Not the same blocks at all. The question you want to be asking is how many are 2 litre and how many are 2.5. Jap Imports are ALL 2 litre and only really fail with poor, or non existent mapping for modifications.

ps the 26 year old 2 litre on my WRX is still the unopened original, despite 1.5 bar being forced through it.

havoc

24,604 posts

181 months

Thursday 10th October
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rossub said:
havoc said:
?!?

Same blocks.
Not the same blocks at all. The question you want to be asking is how many are 2 litre and how many are 2.5. Jap Imports are ALL 2 litre and only really fail with poor, or non existent mapping for modifications.
I was just referring to the 2.0s - I'm aware that from the hatchback-shape (not sure of the later codes) the UK cars went to 2.5.

...as I'm also aware that up to v.5 at least the bottom-ends were known to be, ah, a gamble...



Anyway, we're talking DC5s here...why are the Subaru boys wading in?

designforlife

3,154 posts

109 months

Thursday 10th October
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Few pics of my old milano red PFL and other UK owners at shows in the last couple years-






SidewaysSi

5,790 posts

180 months

Thursday 10th October
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My old DC2 was Milano pink. Never again.

Kewy

1,343 posts

40 months

Thursday 10th October
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SidewaysSi said:
My old DC2 was Milano pink. Never again.
The next Honda I own I want to be Milano red, this does worry me though.

Just a case of regular polish and protection and it should hold its colour?

rossub

2,313 posts

136 months

Thursday 10th October
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havoc said:
I was just referring to the 2.0s - I'm aware that from the hatchback-shape (not sure of the later codes) the UK cars went to 2.5.

...as I'm also aware that up to v.5 at least the bottom-ends were known to be, ah, a gamble...



Anyway, we're talking DC5s here...why are the Subaru boys wading in?
Well we do need to get this right! UK Hawkeyes have 2.5s also. LOTS of them have failed.

I'm here because between between me and the Mrs we've had: DC5, FD2 (her current), JDM EP3 & FN2

designforlife

3,154 posts

109 months

Thursday 10th October
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SidewaysSi said:
My old DC2 was Milano pink. Never again.
Same, having the car fully repainted was easily the most stressful car ownership experience i've been through!

Never buying a red car again.

That said, white DC5s are mostly a shade of cream and a ballache to sort as well... the safest colour is blue for sure.

designforlife

3,154 posts

109 months

Thursday 10th October
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Kewy said:
SidewaysSi said:
My old DC2 was Milano pink. Never again.
The next Honda I own I want to be Milano red, this does worry me though.

Just a case of regular polish and protection and it should hold its colour?
Personally I wouldn't mate, unless you can find one that's recently been resprayed to a very high standard.

Kewy

1,343 posts

40 months

Thursday 10th October
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designforlife said:
Personally I wouldn't mate, unless you can find one that's recently been resprayed to a very high standard.
Shame! They look so damn good in MR. Maybe I'd be better off getting the freshly sprayed MR rolleyes

SidewaysSi

5,790 posts

180 months

Thursday 10th October
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Kewy said:
designforlife said:
Personally I wouldn't mate, unless you can find one that's recently been resprayed to a very high standard.
Shame! They look so damn good in MR. Maybe I'd be better off getting the freshly sprayed MR rolleyes
I wouldn't unless you can be certain of the quality of a respray. Mine was resprayed but it was poor quality to be honest.

My car needed about £8k thrown at it to make it perfect (body and mechanical) to be honest.

Kewy

1,343 posts

40 months

Thursday 10th October
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SidewaysSi said:
Kewy said:
designforlife said:
Personally I wouldn't mate, unless you can find one that's recently been resprayed to a very high standard.
Shame! They look so damn good in MR. Maybe I'd be better off getting the freshly sprayed MR rolleyes
I wouldn't unless you can be certain of the quality of a respray. Mine was resprayed but it was poor quality to be honest.

My car needed about £8k thrown at it to make it perfect (body and mechanical) to be honest.
10-10-19 The day DFL and SS killed my dreams.

designforlife

3,154 posts

109 months

Thursday 10th October
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Tbf, the colour doesn't matter when you're busy driving it, and you do have the choice of red, blue, or black Recaros laugh

Kewy

1,343 posts

40 months

Thursday 10th October
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designforlife said:
Tbf, the colour doesn't matter when you're busy driving it, and you do have the choice of red, blue, or black Recaros laugh
But Instagram? biglaugh

I'm thinking black Recaros, red seatbelts rolleyes

Butter Face

19,288 posts

106 months

Thursday 10th October
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SidewaysSi said:
Kewy said:
designforlife said:
Personally I wouldn't mate, unless you can find one that's recently been resprayed to a very high standard.
Shame! They look so damn good in MR. Maybe I'd be better off getting the freshly sprayed MR rolleyes
I wouldn't unless you can be certain of the quality of a respray. Mine was resprayed but it was poor quality to be honest.

My car needed about £8k thrown at it to make it perfect (body and mechanical) to be honest.
£8k?? What did it need?

SidewaysSi

5,790 posts

180 months

Thursday 10th October
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Butter Face said:
SidewaysSi said:
Kewy said:
designforlife said:
Personally I wouldn't mate, unless you can find one that's recently been resprayed to a very high standard.
Shame! They look so damn good in MR. Maybe I'd be better off getting the freshly sprayed MR rolleyes
I wouldn't unless you can be certain of the quality of a respray. Mine was resprayed but it was poor quality to be honest.

My car needed about £8k thrown at it to make it perfect (body and mechanical) to be honest.
£8k?? What did it need?
All new suspension (bushes, dampers etc), arch repair for rust on both sides, compete repaint etc. And I would have been left with a 120k mile car.

Inevitably would have wanted some engine work at some point (it burned oil like they all do), maybe a rebuild of the LSD etc.

I liked the DC2 but got bored of it to be honest. A fine car but not one I regret selling.

Just seen the MoT history and seems like it ran out a couple of months ago. Hopefully the old thing is still going..

Edited by SidewaysSi on Thursday 10th October 16:24

designforlife

3,154 posts

109 months

Thursday 10th October
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Mine used a little oil, but after I had the valve clearances adjusted and some other service bits done it didn't burn a drop! I owned it from 64k to 68k ish miles.

Mechanically it was utterly brilliant, as long as you keep them well serviced then i don't think there's a better combo of weekend occasion car that you can take to a track and then commute in all week.

Very good MPG if driven sensibly too, used to average about 27mpg hooning, but could get mid 40s when taking it easy and doing more motorway style driving.

Kewy

1,343 posts

40 months

Thursday 10th October
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SidewaysSi said:
All new suspension (bushes, dampers etc), arch repair for rust on both sides, compete repaint etc. And I would have been left with a 120k mile car.

Inevitably would have wanted some engine work at some point (it burned oil like they all do), maybe a rebuild of the LSD etc.

I liked the DC2 but got bored of it to be honest. A fine car but not one I regret selling.

Just seen the MoT history and seems like it ran out a couple of months ago. Hopefully the old thing is still going..

Edited by SidewaysSi on Thursday 10th October 16:24
To be fair I'm probably not far off £8k that's been thrown into mine. That's a full suspension refresh though, and new oem driveshafts that weren't cheap.

adam.

232 posts

157 months

Thursday 10th October
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designforlife said:
That said, white DC5s are mostly a shade of cream and a ballache to sort as well... the safest colour is blue for sure.
50 shades of (championship) beige.