RE: Honda Integra Type R (DC5) | Spotted

[anonymous-user]

havoc said:

Terminator X said:

Not the Jap Scoobs, pretty much bomb proof.

TX.

?!?

Same blocks.

I work next to a Subaru tuner. I'll ask them tomorrow.

(PS - they've always got a ton of cars outside for repairs, and not a week goes by without someone towed/trailered over to them)

Which is exactly what you could say about every main dealer or specialist for any car brand ever.

There is a BMW soecialist near me, funnily enough it is littered with broken BMWs and they are trailered in weekly.

The k20 is only putting out a third of the power and half the torque of an ej20, and they are still known to go pop too. No engine is infallible.

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 10th October 06:22

[havoc]

Elatino1 said:

The k20 is only putting out a third of the power and half the torque of an ej20, and they are still known to go pop too. No engine is infallible.

Erm:

K20 - 197 - 230bhp / 150-167lb/ft - Nat-Asp

EJ20 - 220 - 320bhp / up to c.300lb-ft - FI

...so your stats are a little adrift, and you're comparing apples with oranges due to the induction method - there are blown K20s on stock internals running 400bhp, and built engines running 4-figures in the drag scene.

And besides, the only K20s that fail are due to abuse (oil starvation or similar, as above). EJ's have a torrid rep...

[rossub]

havoc said:

?!?

Same blocks.

I work next to a Subaru tuner. I'll ask them tomorrow.

(PS - they've always got a ton of cars outside for repairs, and not a week goes by without someone towed/trailered over to them)

Not the same blocks at all. The question you want to be asking is how many are 2 litre and how many are 2.5. Jap Imports are ALL 2 litre and only really fail with poor, or non existent mapping for modifications.

ps the 26 year old 2 litre on my WRX is still the unopened original, despite 1.5 bar being forced through it.

[havoc]

rossub said:

havoc said:

?!?

Same blocks.

Not the same blocks at all. The question you want to be asking is how many are 2 litre and how many are 2.5. Jap Imports are ALL 2 litre and only really fail with poor, or non existent mapping for modifications.

I was just referring to the 2.0s - I'm aware that from the hatchback-shape (not sure of the later codes) the UK cars went to 2.5.

...as I'm also aware that up to v.5 at least the bottom-ends were known to be, ah, a gamble...



Anyway, we're talking DC5s here...why are the Subaru boys wading in?

[designforlife]

Few pics of my old milano red PFL and other UK owners at shows in the last couple years-

[SidewaysSi]

My old DC2 was Milano pink. Never again.

[Kewy]

SidewaysSi said:

My old DC2 was Milano pink. Never again.

The next Honda I own I want to be Milano red, this does worry me though.

Just a case of regular polish and protection and it should hold its colour?

[rossub]

havoc said:

I was just referring to the 2.0s - I'm aware that from the hatchback-shape (not sure of the later codes) the UK cars went to 2.5.

...as I'm also aware that up to v.5 at least the bottom-ends were known to be, ah, a gamble...



Anyway, we're talking DC5s here...why are the Subaru boys wading in?

Well we do need to get this right! UK Hawkeyes have 2.5s also. LOTS of them have failed.

I'm here because between between me and the Mrs we've had: DC5, FD2 (her current), JDM EP3 & FN2

[designforlife]

SidewaysSi said:

My old DC2 was Milano pink. Never again.

Same, having the car fully repainted was easily the most stressful car ownership experience i've been through!

Never buying a red car again.

That said, white DC5s are mostly a shade of cream and a ballache to sort as well... the safest colour is blue for sure.

[designforlife]

Kewy said:

SidewaysSi said:

My old DC2 was Milano pink. Never again.

The next Honda I own I want to be Milano red, this does worry me though.

Just a case of regular polish and protection and it should hold its colour?

Personally I wouldn't mate, unless you can find one that's recently been resprayed to a very high standard.

[Kewy]

designforlife said:

Personally I wouldn't mate, unless you can find one that's recently been resprayed to a very high standard.

Shame! They look so damn good in MR. Maybe I'd be better off getting the freshly sprayed MR

[SidewaysSi]

Kewy said:

designforlife said:

Personally I wouldn't mate, unless you can find one that's recently been resprayed to a very high standard.

Shame! They look so damn good in MR. Maybe I'd be better off getting the freshly sprayed MR

I wouldn't unless you can be certain of the quality of a respray. Mine was resprayed but it was poor quality to be honest.

My car needed about £8k thrown at it to make it perfect (body and mechanical) to be honest.

[Kewy]

SidewaysSi said:

Kewy said:

designforlife said:

Personally I wouldn't mate, unless you can find one that's recently been resprayed to a very high standard.

Shame! They look so damn good in MR. Maybe I'd be better off getting the freshly sprayed MR

I wouldn't unless you can be certain of the quality of a respray. Mine was resprayed but it was poor quality to be honest.

My car needed about £8k thrown at it to make it perfect (body and mechanical) to be honest.

10-10-19 The day DFL and SS killed my dreams.

[designforlife]

Tbf, the colour doesn't matter when you're busy driving it, and you do have the choice of red, blue, or black Recaros

[Kewy]

designforlife said:

Tbf, the colour doesn't matter when you're busy driving it, and you do have the choice of red, blue, or black Recaros

But Instagram?

I'm thinking black Recaros, red seatbelts

[Butter Face]

SidewaysSi said:

Kewy said:

designforlife said:

Personally I wouldn't mate, unless you can find one that's recently been resprayed to a very high standard.

Shame! They look so damn good in MR. Maybe I'd be better off getting the freshly sprayed MR

I wouldn't unless you can be certain of the quality of a respray. Mine was resprayed but it was poor quality to be honest.

My car needed about £8k thrown at it to make it perfect (body and mechanical) to be honest.

£8k?? What did it need?

[SidewaysSi]

Butter Face said:

SidewaysSi said:

Kewy said:

designforlife said:

Personally I wouldn't mate, unless you can find one that's recently been resprayed to a very high standard.

Shame! They look so damn good in MR. Maybe I'd be better off getting the freshly sprayed MR

I wouldn't unless you can be certain of the quality of a respray. Mine was resprayed but it was poor quality to be honest.

My car needed about £8k thrown at it to make it perfect (body and mechanical) to be honest.

£8k?? What did it need?

All new suspension (bushes, dampers etc), arch repair for rust on both sides, compete repaint etc. And I would have been left with a 120k mile car.

Inevitably would have wanted some engine work at some point (it burned oil like they all do), maybe a rebuild of the LSD etc.

I liked the DC2 but got bored of it to be honest. A fine car but not one I regret selling.

Just seen the MoT history and seems like it ran out a couple of months ago. Hopefully the old thing is still going..

Edited by SidewaysSi on Thursday 10th October 16:24

[designforlife]

Mine used a little oil, but after I had the valve clearances adjusted and some other service bits done it didn't burn a drop! I owned it from 64k to 68k ish miles.

Mechanically it was utterly brilliant, as long as you keep them well serviced then i don't think there's a better combo of weekend occasion car that you can take to a track and then commute in all week.

Very good MPG if driven sensibly too, used to average about 27mpg hooning, but could get mid 40s when taking it easy and doing more motorway style driving.

[Kewy]

SidewaysSi said:

All new suspension (bushes, dampers etc), arch repair for rust on both sides, compete repaint etc. And I would have been left with a 120k mile car.

Inevitably would have wanted some engine work at some point (it burned oil like they all do), maybe a rebuild of the LSD etc.

I liked the DC2 but got bored of it to be honest. A fine car but not one I regret selling.

Just seen the MoT history and seems like it ran out a couple of months ago. Hopefully the old thing is still going..

Edited by SidewaysSi on Thursday 10th October 16:24

To be fair I'm probably not far off £8k that's been thrown into mine. That's a full suspension refresh though, and new oem driveshafts that weren't cheap.

[adam.]

designforlife said:

That said, white DC5s are mostly a shade of cream and a ballache to sort as well... the safest colour is blue for sure.

50 shades of (championship) beige.