Play silly games racing... This is the outcome

Play silly games racing... This is the outcome

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Plate spinner

13,469 posts

146 months

Thursday 10th October
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When 2 idiots meet...

Durzel

7,834 posts

114 months

Thursday 10th October
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I kinda get the whole something to prove thing when you have evenly matched stuff. Not something I bother with nowadays, but back in the day I would enjoy comparing my car to someone else in something similar at the time if I came across one on my travels (e.g. Civic Type-R vs Cupra R, etc). Obviously it was all done within limits and not recklessly.

But with this, if the story is correct, the guy is sat on a Hayabusa. He doesn't need to race anyone. If he opened the throttle he would leave everything on the road for dead including supercars. So what's the point? I don't get why he was racing the other guy, but not racing him? Maybe it's something I just don't get about motorbikes, would he have come flying off if he'd accelerated harder?

Regardless of all of that the biker shows some clear lack of common sense when it comes to analysing the situation in front of him. A guy said it best above - spidey sense. If I was in a car and saw someone wheelspinning at the lights, or otherwise driving aggressively, I'd leave them to it. If you're on a bike and don't moderate your riding and road position to take account of someone like that you're putting your life in their hands. Very, very risky.

The fact the guy has wrecked his bike twice suggests he doesn't know when not to get involved and/or puts himself in these situations often.


Short Grain

1,006 posts

166 months

Thursday 10th October
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Doubt either will change their driving habits. Biker's riding style / ability leaves a lot to be desired, Civic driver shows himself up as being a total arse, causing and leaving the accident.
2nd time the biker has 'dropped' his Busa should be a lesson to him! Very much doubt it will. He's aggrieved he was taken out! Should have spotted a potential nut job. Biker stands more chance of being really hurt especially 'racing' in cargo pants. Really hope the Police have seen this and 'have a word' with both. We don't need idiots like these sharing the roads. Bonus if we remove all tts like these 2, more room for the rest of us!

M1C

1,166 posts

57 months

Thursday 10th October
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Quotes from the fb post:

"Yet again have damaged my left leg"

and

"the Hayabsusa is wrecked AGAIN"

Says it all.

Haven't even watched the vid yet....stand by.....

Having seen the vid - i'll back off the above a bit. Driver is a total tt with a move like that. Lock him away.

washingitagain

126 posts

3 months

Thursday 10th October
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I don't think the driver realised the biker had opened up the throttle. I think the driver was just thinking he'd block him passing, not realising he was going so fast.

Obviously, not excusing anything. Both are tts for their respective reasons.

Exige77

3,861 posts

137 months

Thursday 10th October
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FiF said:
Exige77 said:
Or crutches ?
Well no, no one deserves to be on crutches, no one. Though considering that when it goes wrong on bikes it hurts it always amazes me where individuals seem to deliberately put themselves in positions of unnecessarily high risk just to potentially save fractions of a second.
That’s what I meant.

The outcome for a biker is likely to be worse if there is a coming together.

Points, fines and disqualifications are of course a punishment but having a serious injury could be much worse and much longer lived.

I’m sure most enthusiastic drivers / bikers have had a bit of fun (I know I have) but there’s a time and a place for everything and it was not then.

The warning signs for the eventual outcome are in the video.




Hungrymc

4,153 posts

83 months

Thursday 10th October
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washingitagain said:
I don't think the driver realised the biker had opened up the throttle. I think the driver was just thinking he'd block him passing, not realising he was going so fast.

Obviously, not excusing anything. Both are tts for their respective reasons.
If that were true an it was a genuine error, don’t you think he’d have stopped ?

LeoSayer

5,850 posts

190 months

Thursday 10th October
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Johnnytheboy said:
Nothing makes my drive more sensibly than the perception someone else wants to race me.
yes

Driver101

5,736 posts

67 months

Thursday 10th October
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Hungrymc said:
washingitagain said:
I don't think the driver realised the biker had opened up the throttle. I think the driver was just thinking he'd block him passing, not realising he was going so fast.

Obviously, not excusing anything. Both are tts for their respective reasons.
If that were true an it was a genuine error, don’t you think he’d have stopped ?
I also think the Civic driver was caught out by the faster acceleration.

They were already seen to be racing. He already had reason to get out of the situation. The genuine error was because of their behaviour.

washingitagain

126 posts

3 months

Thursday 10th October
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Hungrymc said:
If that were true an it was a genuine error, don’t you think he’d have stopped ?
The way the Civic was being driven doesn't suggest a rational person was behind the wheel. Who actually wheelspins at traffic lights these days? (and I live in Essex!)

RobM77

32,996 posts

180 months

Thursday 10th October
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Hungrymc said:
washingitagain said:
I don't think the driver realised the biker had opened up the throttle. I think the driver was just thinking he'd block him passing, not realising he was going so fast.

Obviously, not excusing anything. Both are tts for their respective reasons.
If that were true an it was a genuine error, don’t you think he’d have stopped ?
Depends on the person and situation. I've seen plenty of people in videos like this panic when an accident happens and leg it, even if innocent. It can be a pretty shocking thing to cause an accident unintentionally, and if there's a confrontational situation anyway I think it's highly likely the driver would speed away, whether guilty or innocent.

ChocolateFrog

6,068 posts

119 months

Thursday 10th October
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Even as a biker I'm struggling for too much sympathy. Play silly games with 1.5ton metal boxes and it's very likely to end badly for you.

That said the other driver needs some jail time to cool off.

Hungrymc

4,153 posts

83 months

Thursday 10th October
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I guess it’s possible that the Civic driver was ‘caught out’ by the bikes acceleration as the bike hadn’t accelerated much at all in those previous few minutes. But looking at the rate at which he swerves, we’d be really giving him the benefit of the doubt.

And he may have panicked and fled? Maybe it was a fully calculated move? It’s all magnitudes worse than the poor riding.

Biker deserves points, driver deserves much much worse.... I’d be amazed if that car isn’t stolen or cloned.

Durzel

7,834 posts

114 months

Thursday 10th October
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It's almost impossible to know the motivations of the car driver. It would sit somewhere between intentionally wanting the biker guy to come off / injure themselves badly and simply not wanting him to win and not realising how his swerve would cause him to come off.

Heat of the moment, two knobs meet on the road, that's when stupid things like this happen. Never gamble your life on the reactions or abilities of someone else, particularly someone who has shown that they are primed to do something stupid.

10 Pence Short's prison story gives some insight into how some enthusiastic driving can have disasterous, life changing outcomes, even unintentionally.

Mr Whippy

21,835 posts

187 months

Thursday 10th October
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Retardedness begets retardedness.

That biker broke the speed limit by a fair margin, a risk all in itself, to chase down having an accident.


No matter how dodgy the car driver, it seems easy to avoid accidents with them.

The biker appears to chase trouble down. I’m not sure who is more dangerous to be honest.

Eyersey1234

1,231 posts

25 months

Thursday 10th October
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Has anyone read any of the comments on Facebook about this? Quite a few people have said that the biker was partly in the wrong and he has given a mouthful back to them.

Durzel

7,834 posts

114 months

Thursday 10th October
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Eyersey1234 said:
Has anyone read any of the comments on Facebook about this? Quite a few people have said that the biker was partly in the wrong and he has given a mouthful back to them.
Course he has. He doesn't accept any responsibility for what happened. He probably does this every time he gets on the bike. Nothing excuses the Civic driver's actions but roll the dice enough times and this is what happens.

washingitagain

126 posts

3 months

Thursday 10th October
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Eyersey1234 said:
Has anyone read any of the comments on Facebook about this? Quite a few people have said that the biker was partly in the wrong and he has given a mouthful back to them.
Be interested in his argument! (not on fb so can't see it)

Mr Whippy

21,835 posts

187 months

Thursday 10th October
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washingitagain said:
Eyersey1234 said:
Has anyone read any of the comments on Facebook about this? Quite a few people have said that the biker was partly in the wrong and he has given a mouthful back to them.
Be interested in his argument! (not on fb so can't see it)
I’d avoid wasting your life reading an idiot explaining their idiocy.

Japveesix

3,615 posts

114 months

Thursday 10th October
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Demelitia said:
Amazing the biker thinks he’s done absolutely nothing contributory in that video. It’s obvious he’s not taken in to account the fact that you can be ‘technically right’ and still be dead as a doornail.
He was legitimately overtaking don't you know....