Play silly games racing... This is the outcome
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I kinda get the whole something to prove thing when you have evenly matched stuff. Not something I bother with nowadays, but back in the day I would enjoy comparing my car to someone else in something similar at the time if I came across one on my travels (e.g. Civic Type-R vs Cupra R, etc). Obviously it was all done within limits and not recklessly.
But with this, if the story is correct, the guy is sat on a Hayabusa. He doesn't need to race anyone. If he opened the throttle he would leave everything on the road for dead including supercars. So what's the point? I don't get why he was racing the other guy, but not racing him? Maybe it's something I just don't get about motorbikes, would he have come flying off if he'd accelerated harder?
Regardless of all of that the biker shows some clear lack of common sense when it comes to analysing the situation in front of him. A guy said it best above - spidey sense. If I was in a car and saw someone wheelspinning at the lights, or otherwise driving aggressively, I'd leave them to it. If you're on a bike and don't moderate your riding and road position to take account of someone like that you're putting your life in their hands. Very, very risky.
The fact the guy has wrecked his bike twice suggests he doesn't know when not to get involved and/or puts himself in these situations often.
But with this, if the story is correct, the guy is sat on a Hayabusa. He doesn't need to race anyone. If he opened the throttle he would leave everything on the road for dead including supercars. So what's the point? I don't get why he was racing the other guy, but not racing him? Maybe it's something I just don't get about motorbikes, would he have come flying off if he'd accelerated harder?
Regardless of all of that the biker shows some clear lack of common sense when it comes to analysing the situation in front of him. A guy said it best above - spidey sense. If I was in a car and saw someone wheelspinning at the lights, or otherwise driving aggressively, I'd leave them to it. If you're on a bike and don't moderate your riding and road position to take account of someone like that you're putting your life in their hands. Very, very risky.
The fact the guy has wrecked his bike twice suggests he doesn't know when not to get involved and/or puts himself in these situations often.
Doubt either will change their driving habits. Biker's riding style / ability leaves a lot to be desired, Civic driver shows himself up as being a total arse, causing and leaving the accident.
2nd time the biker has 'dropped' his Busa should be a lesson to him! Very much doubt it will. He's aggrieved he was taken out! Should have spotted a potential nut job. Biker stands more chance of being really hurt especially 'racing' in cargo pants. Really hope the Police have seen this and 'have a word' with both. We don't need idiots like these sharing the roads. Bonus if we remove all t
ts like these 2, more room for the rest of us!
2nd time the biker has 'dropped' his Busa should be a lesson to him! Very much doubt it will. He's aggrieved he was taken out! Should have spotted a potential nut job. Biker stands more chance of being really hurt especially 'racing' in cargo pants. Really hope the Police have seen this and 'have a word' with both. We don't need idiots like these sharing the roads. Bonus if we remove all t
ts like these 2, more room for the rest of us!FiF said:
Exige77 said:
Or crutches ?
Well no, no one deserves to be on crutches, no one. Though considering that when it goes wrong on bikes it hurts it always amazes me where individuals seem to deliberately put themselves in positions of unnecessarily high risk just to potentially save fractions of a second.The outcome for a biker is likely to be worse if there is a coming together.
Points, fines and disqualifications are of course a punishment but having a serious injury could be much worse and much longer lived.
I’m sure most enthusiastic drivers / bikers have had a bit of fun (I know I have) but there’s a time and a place for everything and it was not then.
The warning signs for the eventual outcome are in the video.
washingitagain said:
I don't think the driver realised the biker had opened up the throttle. I think the driver was just thinking he'd block him passing, not realising he was going so fast.
Obviously, not excusing anything. Both are tts for their respective reasons.
If that were true an it was a genuine error, don’t you think he’d have stopped ?Obviously, not excusing anything. Both are t
ts for their respective reasons.
Hungrymc said:
washingitagain said:
I don't think the driver realised the biker had opened up the throttle. I think the driver was just thinking he'd block him passing, not realising he was going so fast.
Obviously, not excusing anything. Both are tts for their respective reasons.
If that were true an it was a genuine error, don’t you think he’d have stopped ?Obviously, not excusing anything. Both are t
ts for their respective reasons.They were already seen to be racing. He already had reason to get out of the situation. The genuine error was because of their behaviour.
Hungrymc said:
washingitagain said:
I don't think the driver realised the biker had opened up the throttle. I think the driver was just thinking he'd block him passing, not realising he was going so fast.
Obviously, not excusing anything. Both are tts for their respective reasons.
If that were true an it was a genuine error, don’t you think he’d have stopped ?Obviously, not excusing anything. Both are t
ts for their respective reasons.I guess it’s possible that the Civic driver was ‘caught out’ by the bikes acceleration as the bike hadn’t accelerated much at all in those previous few minutes. But looking at the rate at which he swerves, we’d be really giving him the benefit of the doubt.
And he may have panicked and fled? Maybe it was a fully calculated move? It’s all magnitudes worse than the poor riding.
Biker deserves points, driver deserves much much worse.... I’d be amazed if that car isn’t stolen or cloned.
And he may have panicked and fled? Maybe it was a fully calculated move? It’s all magnitudes worse than the poor riding.
Biker deserves points, driver deserves much much worse.... I’d be amazed if that car isn’t stolen or cloned.
It's almost impossible to know the motivations of the car driver. It would sit somewhere between intentionally wanting the biker guy to come off / injure themselves badly and simply not wanting him to win and not realising how his swerve would cause him to come off.
Heat of the moment, two knobs meet on the road, that's when stupid things like this happen. Never gamble your life on the reactions or abilities of someone else, particularly someone who has shown that they are primed to do something stupid.
10 Pence Short's prison story gives some insight into how some enthusiastic driving can have disasterous, life changing outcomes, even unintentionally.
Heat of the moment, two knobs meet on the road, that's when stupid things like this happen. Never gamble your life on the reactions or abilities of someone else, particularly someone who has shown that they are primed to do something stupid.
10 Pence Short's prison story gives some insight into how some enthusiastic driving can have disasterous, life changing outcomes, even unintentionally.
Retardedness begets retardedness.
That biker broke the speed limit by a fair margin, a risk all in itself, to chase down having an accident.
No matter how dodgy the car driver, it seems easy to avoid accidents with them.
The biker appears to chase trouble down. I’m not sure who is more dangerous to be honest.
That biker broke the speed limit by a fair margin, a risk all in itself, to chase down having an accident.
No matter how dodgy the car driver, it seems easy to avoid accidents with them.
The biker appears to chase trouble down. I’m not sure who is more dangerous to be honest.
Eyersey1234 said:
Has anyone read any of the comments on Facebook about this? Quite a few people have said that the biker was partly in the wrong and he has given a mouthful back to them.
Course he has. He doesn't accept any responsibility for what happened. He probably does this every time he gets on the bike. Nothing excuses the Civic driver's actions but roll the dice enough times and this is what happens.washingitagain said:
Eyersey1234 said:
Has anyone read any of the comments on Facebook about this? Quite a few people have said that the biker was partly in the wrong and he has given a mouthful back to them.
Be interested in his argument! (not on fb so can't see it)so to those blaming both... i suppose if the civic was replaced with a pedestrian and a similar fracas took placed where the biker clipped the pedestrian because the pedestrian was giving the biker the middle finger for arguments sake.... youd be saying they were both to blame still? sod off. that crash/attempted manslaughter as a minimum was the civic drivers fault. you can debate the ins and outs of the racing all day long but what caused this was the unhinged not backing down twunt behind the wheel of the civic. cant believe he just yanked the wheel over and whack the guy. pity the biker didnt have mates following to sit on the driver until the police arrived - racing or no racing thats just not in the rules......
its not an easy watch when you see the impact about to happen. i hope that driver gets nailed.
its not an easy watch when you see the impact about to happen. i hope that driver gets nailed.
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