Play silly games racing... This is the outcome

Play silly games racing... This is the outcome

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SS2.

11,379 posts

184 months

Wednesday 9th October
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What is it they say - don't let them become part of the rest of your life ?

Their point is well made.

Zetec-S

3,061 posts

39 months

Wednesday 9th October
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GreatGranny said:
Not sure why the biker is getting so much hate.

Yes he "put his foot down" when the Civic raced off the lights but was riding ok up to then.
Not really, should have moved over to the left, no reason not to other than "road captain".

But...

GreatGranny said:
There was absolutely no excuse for the Civic to run him down.
yes Agreed. There are plenty of tts on the road, doesn't give you the right to run them down.


Durzel

7,834 posts

114 months

Wednesday 9th October
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GreatGranny said:
Not sure why the biker is getting so much hate.

Yes he "put his foot down" when the Civic raced off the lights but was riding ok up to then.

There was absolutely no excuse for the Civic to run him down.
Because he was riding like a total bellend, doing way more than the 40mph limit on that road.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes about covers it to be honest. As a biker he should know that he is far more vulnerable than the guy in the Civic and should ride accordingly, i.e. by not provoking other people into races, etc.

Should be interesting to see what the Police say when he shows them that video and they charge him for racing on the public highway.

Jazoli

7,266 posts

196 months

Wednesday 9th October
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glen ponder said:
Motorbike = donor machine
That's probably the most original thing I have read on here, ever.......

Chamon_Lee

2,606 posts

93 months

Wednesday 9th October
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can't understand bikers like this who put their own lives in the hands of others. Ride defensively!

another dashcam plum who assumes because he has video evidance that he is in the right.

yeager2004

88 posts

37 months

Wednesday 9th October
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Wonder what the guy was riding? While clearly both parties are at fault, I’m surprised the bike took so long to catch up with the car

RT7500

15 posts

1 month

Wednesday 9th October
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The Civic driver was clearly a dangerous driver and should be prosecuted for dangerous driving, however, the biker could have avoided that accident if he didn't feel the need to demonstrate his superior acceleration. It's a Hayabusa, who cares if a Civic got a head start on you...

Durzel

7,834 posts

114 months

Wednesday 9th October
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yeager2004 said:
Wonder what the guy was riding? While clearly both parties are at fault, I’m surprised the bike took so long to catch up with the car
He said in the description that it was a Hayabusa (the second time he's wrecked it apparently) which seems strange since I would've assumed it would leave the Civic for dead if he was actually trying. That said it doesn't change the circumstances.

SAS Tom

2,550 posts

120 months

Wednesday 9th October
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yeager2004 said:
Wonder what the guy was riding? While clearly both parties are at fault, I’m surprised the bike took so long to catch up with the car
A mate showed me this on Facebook and he was apparently riding a hayabusa. It’s hard to believe though given that one of the fastest bikes ever made couldn’t keep up with a Honda Civic!

J4CKO

28,222 posts

146 months

Wednesday 9th October
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"The Hayabusa is wrecked again", not all that surprised as getting into pissing contests with Civic 1.8S's (I think) on a 200 mph bike probably suggests poor decisions, ok, might be bad luck in the first case and why the Civic driver tried to block we will never know but ffs why bother ?

On two wheels it should be self preservation, like cyclists especially and their propensity to saunter up the inside of articulated lorries, probably best on a bike to not get competitive with people in old Civics who do a pathetic little wheelspin at the lights as they are probably a bit of a knob, unless you are saying "Hey I am a knob as well, lets play at being knobs together" just ignore it.



I try to make myself do this, its taken a long time.

Gad-Westy

9,502 posts

159 months

Wednesday 9th October
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Some previous earlier on in the video as you see the civic undertake the biker. I guess because the biker never moves to the inside. So looks like a case of minor annoyance escalating into both parties suddenly becoming worst enemies. Bloody stupid what we’re capable of getting into on the road. But the civic driver genuinely tried and succeeded to cause a serious accident.

MissChief

5,160 posts

114 months

Wednesday 9th October
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As soon as it seemed like the Civic driver was upset at being passed and launched st the lights with wheel spin the biker should have given him a wide berth, not chased after him, as said above, the car driver shouldn’t have done that but the biker didn’t do himself any favours at all by effectively goading him.

The civic will have some major damage to the rear quarter too and shouldn’t be too difficult to find.

Pica-Pica

5,892 posts

30 months

Wednesday 9th October
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If you are being a tt, and meet another tt ——— untt yourself.

Durzel

7,834 posts

114 months

Wednesday 9th October
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J4CKO said:
"The Hayabusa is wrecked again", not all that surprised as getting into pissing contests with Civic 1.8S's (I think) on a 200 mph bike probably suggests poor decisions, ok, might be bad luck in the first case and why the Civic driver tried to block we will never know but ffs why bother ?

On two wheels it should be self preservation, like cyclists especially and their propensity to saunter up the inside of articulated lorries, probably best on a bike to not get competitive with people in old Civics who do a pathetic little wheelspin at the lights as they are probably a bit of a knob, unless you are saying "Hey I am a knob as well, lets play at being knobs together" just ignore it.



I try to make myself do this, its taken a long time.
Indeed.

Alarm bells should've been ringing from earlier in the video where the Civic tore up the inside of him, let alone the wheel spinning at the lights. The biker invited this outcome, even if it was completely and utterly reckless on the part of the Civic. Doing this sort of thing regularly will see you come face to face with people who a) don't want to lose and b) aren't exactly minded to behave rationally when they do. It's utterly crazy to do this on a bike.

What I find bizarre in this is that if he genuinely was on a Hayabusa then he and most other people would know that it would be faster than practically everything else on the road. He doesn't need to prove anything.

thiscocks

2,074 posts

141 months

Wednesday 9th October
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Well the civic driver could say he didn't see the biker closing on him especially as he was doing over the limit.

PixelpeepS3

5,722 posts

88 months

Wednesday 9th October
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bookmarked to watch when i'm not in the office smile

Durzel

7,834 posts

114 months

Wednesday 9th October
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thiscocks said:
Well the civic driver could say he didn't see the biker closing on him especially as he was doing over the limit.
That wouldn't wash at all. He didn't indicate, there's no obvious reason he needed to move into that lane, and it was done recklessly in any event.

If the driver is identifiable I'd imagine there's a good chance of him being prosecuted for Dangerous Driving or Racing, but I don't think the biker would get escape that charge either.

STe_rsv4

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355 posts

44 months

Wednesday 9th October
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thiscocks said:
Well the civic driver could say he didn't see the biker closing on him especially as he was doing over the limit.
I think the civic driver would have a hard time justifying that statement, especially since he span away from the lights full well knowing the bike was behind him and playing catch up.

coldel

3,422 posts

92 months

Wednesday 9th October
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Durzel said:
What I find bizarre in this is that if he genuinely was on a Hayabusa then he and most other people would know that it would be faster than practically everything else on the road. He doesn't need to prove anything.
It's quite possible he bought a Hayabusa to drive faster than everyone else on the road, and in this case, came unstuck.

STe_rsv4

Original Poster:

355 posts

44 months

Wednesday 9th October
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GreatGranny said:
Not sure why the biker is getting so much hate.

Yes he "put his foot down" when the Civic raced off the lights but was riding ok up to then.

There was absolutely no excuse for the Civic to run him down.
If you watch the video from the start, the biker was riding well above the limit, hogging the right hand lane which appeared to have tram tracks in them. I've ridden long enough to know that metal tracks / drain covers on the road are slippery, especially when wet and I would have avoided them at all costs. So no, his riding wasn't ok up until he crashed