RE: Audi SQ8 | Driven
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Johnnytheboy said:
I'm not an authoritarian type who wants to ban anything, but no good can come from this monstrosity's existence.
Choice?If theres no demand, they won't make another one.
Editing choice through regulation gets a bit dangerous when cars are concerned. You could easily make the same argument about most performance cars... what's the point of a 911? It doesn't move you around any faster or more efficiently when any old hatchback will do 70.
Just because it's not something you fancy, doesn't mean it isn't somebody else's cuppa. They probably think a Caterham or a VW California or an M3 is pointless too.
Johnnytheboy said:
I'm not an authoritarian type who wants to ban anything, but no good can come from this monstrosity's existence.
How about the benefit of giving people employment and therefore income to spend in their relevant country e.g. production line workers, lorry drivers, sales people, "technicians" etc. ?gigglebug said:
Sten. said:
First reply. Even quicker than I thought. 
It's going to be a very quick game of SUV cliche bingo today!It's good to see that Andy, with his large, overweight and unnecessarily powerful estate car, has waded in already. A performance SUV thread just wouldn't be the same without experiencing the latest dumb excuse to justify his hypocrisy to everyone that points it out.
Wonder if anyone will actually remember that this SQ8 even existed in a couple of years time, or will they have moved on to next years fashion statement?
TurboHatchback said:
This pretty much personifies everything that is wrong with car design today, they'll sell them as fast as they can build them. No worse than the equally dismal rivals from the other 'premium' manufacturers though.
The classic SUV oxymoron an another one ticked off the list. If they can sell them as fast as they make them then you would have to contend that they are getting the design spot on for the current market, no?Andy20vt said:
Thankfully attitudes seem to be changing (see link below) and this bloated, overweight 'never to go off road' SUV will probably in the very near future be considered as welcome as a turd in a paddling pool.
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/oct/07/a-d...
A soon to be extinct and worthless dinosaur me thinks.
Had no idea about thathttps://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/oct/07/a-d...
A soon to be extinct and worthless dinosaur me thinks.
It's interesting reading, to a point that a random accident in a Macan (that's not even a full size SUV) has fuelled such hatred; being an SUV surely had nothing to do with it.
But I think that's the writing on the wall, folks. A small minority are going to shame us out of SUVs, then it will be supercars, then sportscars, until we are all in autonomous electric boxes.
Andy20vt said:
Hmmm, an overweight, unnecessarily powerful estate car that's also an iconic PH Hero: https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-germancars/aud...
Wonder if anyone will actually remember that this SQ8 even existed in a couple of years time, or will they have moved on to next years fashion statement?
Ah bless, is somebody getting all defensive about their choice of car whilst spitting venom over other folks!? Well if it's PH hero it must be ok then, because the average person on the street will give a fWonder if anyone will actually remember that this SQ8 even existed in a couple of years time, or will they have moved on to next years fashion statement?
k about that!! Ha ha ha!!
Andy20vt said:
Hmmm, an overweight, unnecessarily powerful estate car that's also an iconic PH Hero: https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-germancars/aud...
Wonder if anyone will actually remember that this SQ8 even existed in a couple of years time, or will they have moved on to next years fashion statement?
Look what I found Andy!!Wonder if anyone will actually remember that this SQ8 even existed in a couple of years time, or will they have moved on to next years fashion statement?
https://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-features-h...
Presumably you will be changing your opinion of performance SUV's now that PH has had one as one of it's 'heros'?? Ha ha ha!!
Cold said:
The Li-ion King said:
Honeywell said:
What is the actual point of these things?
A BMW 530d is just as practical and better in every other regard at half the price.
That thing would be awful off-road and on those wide summer tyres likely to get stuck on mildly sloped wet grass. I think I’d be embarrassed to own one. Sorry, lease one.
+1A BMW 530d is just as practical and better in every other regard at half the price.
That thing would be awful off-road and on those wide summer tyres likely to get stuck on mildly sloped wet grass. I think I’d be embarrassed to own one. Sorry, lease one.
Archie Hamilton of YouTube fame was mulling over having one of these for winter. (Snazzy quad pipes, but only the inner two function) piped in engine noise via speakers, fiddly infotainment. Wait for depreciation to kick in first if you really must.
I'd get a more practical 5 series Touring.
GranCab said:
Johnnytheboy said:
I'm not an authoritarian type who wants to ban anything, but no good can come from this monstrosity's existence.
How about the benefit of giving people employment and therefore income to spend in their relevant country e.g. production line workers, lorry drivers, sales people, "technicians" etc. ?Saying that, the sheer size of this thing would require a lot of "technicians" to build it.
slowcars1 said:
You do admit that there is a difference? For starts, SUVs have awful drag coefficients compared to normal estate cars.
Referencing that Guardian article above you are 12% more likely to die in a crash in an SUV and twice as likely to kill a pedestrian in a car-pedestrian collision.
And you could also buy smaller, more efficient estate cars with better pedestrian safety than an old RS6. Where do you draw the line with what you would deem unnecessary/acceptable? I would guess that a very large proportion of the cars we find interesting are ultimately unnecessary or compromised, one way or another, but does that mean they shouldn't exist?Referencing that Guardian article above you are 12% more likely to die in a crash in an SUV and twice as likely to kill a pedestrian in a car-pedestrian collision.
The drag coefficient comparison is a nonsense by the way as it isn't going to be anywhere near the top of the list of things that will concern the average buyer or indeed the moaners when it comes to big, heavy and unnecessary powerful cars.
Edited by gigglebug on Thursday 10th October 09:57
gigglebug said:
And you could also buy smaller, more efficient estate cars with better pedestrian safety than an old RS6. Where do you draw the line with what you would deem unnecessary/acceptable? I would guess that a very large proportion of the cars we find interesting are ultimately unnecessary, one way or another, but does that mean they shouldn't exist?
An estate car, whether a fast one or not, serves a useful purpose. A 4x4 SUV than never goes off road is about as useless as a chocolate teapot - unless it's for displaying one's status to others, in which case it's still pretty useless as it seems any old scrote can (and seem to) pay the monthlies an a flashy SUV these days. Guess that's why they keep bringing out even flasher versions, if they make the monthlies high enough maybe that will distinguish the scrotes with still not quite enough money from the scrotes who actually have no money. All the people I know who have serious wealth, and I'm not just talking the odd million or two, drive round in older cars. Guess they don't feel the need to display themselves in this way? Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff