RE: Alfa Romeo Montreal | Spotted

[sidesauce]

Tcooc168 said:

I must be the only one that don’t like it...

No, you're definitely not. I was born in the (mid)70s but I find cars from this era look atrocious. The entire era was a low point for fashion in general and aesthetics particularly IMO.

[J4CKO]

s m said:

J4CKO said:

Its alright, but there does tend to be an over eulogisation of anything old, rare and the right brand.

Jacko, Jacko, Jacko.......


It’s rwd
It’s an Alfa
It’s a V8

Does it get any better for many ?

I dont mind it but cant get all that excited, my only previous exposure to these was a toy version as a kid, one of those cars I had the toy version and have gone my entire life (from 1970, I was introduced to the world the same year as this) and never, ever seen one.

Styling is not quite there, seventies Italian reliability and though its probably a nice engine, seems a bit limp these days, whichis perhaps missing the point but if I am going to countenance 70s Italian V8's, I want more than 190 bhp !

[V6Alfisti]

Crikey, I nearly bought one of these about 10-11 years ago. It wasn't in this condition, but was if I remember about £14k and advertised at one of the Alfa car events.

You do have to be careful with the SPICA injection if I remember rightly, however there were more modern bolt on's you could use to avoid that system.

Edited by V6Alfisti on Thursday 17th October 10:51

[cookie1600]

You could have had Yasmin LeBon's old one for £25k eight years ago. But Simon LeBon wrote that off in a multi-storey car-park and it was subsequently bought from Cleeve Auto Salvage and repaired, so there's another story:

https://www.pistonheads.com/regulars/ph-spottedyky...

[bigbadbikercats]

The article inexplicably overlooks the greatest single reason the Montreal deserves to be admired.

The noise.

I honestly believe this to be the best sounding production car ever built - it really is utterly outrageous...

https://youtu.be/xij5L_RFbUA

...do you really need another reason?

[Augustus Windsock]

The nearest I came to one was a lime green colour diecast model that my brother had.
He also had a diecast Apline 110 rally car and we used to argue the positive and negatives of each until the cows came home.
Personally I think it’s a beautiful thing but I wouldn’t want to own one, the worries of ferrous oxide eating my pride and joy in front of my eyes would be too much.
As an aside, I’m sure I read somewhere that those vents/salts behind the doors used to allow water ingress causing rot in the area of the sills or wheel arch. Does that ring a bell with anyone else?

[s m]

cookie1600 said:

You could have had Yasmin LeBon's old one for £25k eight years ago. But Simon LeBon wrote that off in a multi-storey car-park

That’s what happens when you watch too much Ryan O’Neal in “The Driver”!

[Macboy]

I really wanted to buy a Montreal when they were still affordable and looked at a couple both of which were in regular club use and reasonably well looked after - certainly not basket cases by any means. The owners were both very honest about the costs of ongoing rolling-refurbishment and the list of jobs they hadn't got round to - both had some rust and one had a tired interior that need to be taken out and re-trimmed and re-carpeted at some stage to stop the deterioration and that unmistakable smell of oll and time. I thought long and hard about it but didn't think my bank balance not sanity could take this kind of "needs to be completely restored but I can't really afford it" ownership.

They weren't all that to drive but looked fabulous and had a real sense of occasion. I always felt they need to sit lower than they did and they are one of half a dozen cars I'd like expertly rebuild in a Singer-style if I had the £100m+ lottery win.

[Om]

I hadn't realised that this was another Giuseppe Busso engine (at least in part). So he designed some of the sweetest sounding 4, 6 and 8 cylinder engines ever built. Not bad.

bigbadbikercats said:

The article inexplicably overlooks the greatest single reason the Montreal deserves to be admired.

The noise.

I honestly believe this to be the best sounding production car ever built - it really is utterly outrageous...

https://youtu.be/xij5L_RFbUA

...do you really need another reason?

[cookie1600]

bigbadbikercats said:

The article inexplicably overlooks the greatest single reason the Montreal deserves to be admired.

The noise.

I honestly believe this to be the best sounding production car ever built - it really is utterly outrageous...

Is that not like a comparison with the Triumph Stag then? Nice to look at, lovely to listen too, terrible to own and run?

[Macboy]

cookie1600 said:

Is that not like a comparison with the Triumph Stag then? Nice to look at, lovely to listen too, terrible to own and run?

All except it being nice to look at....

[Leithen]

How brave are you and how deep are your pockets...?

[sideways man]

This car should be featured as a ‘Brave Pill’ , not the modern reliable stuff written about so far...

[gigglebug]

bigbadbikercats said:

The article inexplicably overlooks the greatest single reason the Montreal deserves to be admired.

The noise.

I honestly believe this to be the best sounding production car ever built - it really is utterly outrageous...

https://youtu.be/xij5L_RFbUA

...do you really need another reason?

Sounds glorious that! I'm not sure how but I had no idea of the existence of these, I really like the look of it too.

PS; Nice overtaking manouver into a blind corner by the following car early in the the vid!?

[pppppppppppppppp]

I find 70s styling like any other decade: there was some really good and some really bad and most somewhere in the middle. The 70s was a good decade for Japanese cars in my opinion. Also brought us stuff like the SD1.

I do quite like this though. Wouldn't buy one, but do like it.

[Robert-nszl1]

Alfahol Addict said:

There's Giulia's and GTV's, no such thing as Giulia GTV.

That's pedantic at best, and I would argue wrong. The 1750 and 2000 Giulia GT Veloces were commonly known as GTVs. I own the latter and think of it as a Giulia first and foremost

[Flanners]

Love these, a pristine blue example appears at the Alfa AROC meet every June at Hever Castle. Beautiful car in the 'flesh'.

Check out this video from Alfa Nut when he had a ride in one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFCFJkDzdXQ

Edited by Flanners on Thursday 17th October 15:56

[Pericoloso]

What's not to like ?

It's also in orange.

double want....

I saw 2 in Italy and 1 at Autoworld ,Brussels whilst on my road trip.

[neutral 3]

s m said:

Just the thing for doing a contract in Marseilles....

https://youtu.be/80ecPj1TkYo

Edited by s m on Thursday 17th October 08:20

And What a film it is !! The Montreal / 911 dice is brilliant.

[acalex]

I am the lucky owner of the car on Alfanut, and it's interesting to read the comments and thoughts of people on the car generally.
Firstly I would never call it a supercar, it may have been designed by Gandini as was the Muir's, but that is a supercar. On the other hand you could probably buy 15 or so Monty's for one Lambo, so there is a bit of a price differential!
Many comments talk about the problems and cost of ownership, all fair points but true of any 40+ year old car. So the old adage is as true as ever....check the car carefully, get it on a ramp, check the history and buy the best you can afford. If you can't, walk away!
Look at the difference, particularly on ride height between my car and the one for sale, lower looks so much better, and if you can get one with sensible upgrades then it will serve you so much better.
And if you did have the money perhaps better to buy 1 Muira than 15 Monty's!