RE: Peugeot 308 GT THP | Shed of the Week

RE: Peugeot 308 GT THP | Shed of the Week

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Don Roque

16,876 posts

109 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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That will probably be a decent drive, and if it does blow up and can't be repaired it can just be scrapped. I don't see why it would suffer a terminal failure though, French cars are everywhere giving reliable service, just as this one has done for over a decade.

sling

2 posts

93 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Loplop said:
Quick question about the graph, I feel like it needs some context. How many cars of each manufacturer are sold and on the road in Sweden? Surely it would be more prudent to compare the amount of claims against vehicles sold to work out some sort of percentage?
Strangely enough, the Swedes know a thing or two about statistics too. The graph shows claims per 100 registered cars.

Notanotherturbo

357 posts

157 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Sparky137 said:
miken2k8 said:
the_hood said:
Looks ok, but I'd always be worried as older French cars don't have a great reputation for reliability.
Well it's a load of rubbish, it's not an older french car. After 2005 or so french cars are just as reliable as anything else. Thanks to these opinions the rest of us can pick up a bargain.
As a person who has previously owned three French cars that were made after 2005, all I can say is that if other cars were as reliable as French cars the roads would be empty!!! You are more than welcome to the 'bargain'. At least you will save enough money to be able to afford a recovery service subscription, just hope that there aren't limits on how many times you can use them in a year!!.

Lessons learned, never again.
Sorry but they aren't as reliable as anything else, had several post 2005 Renaults and they are shockingly bad. They did inprove from about 2012 when the last Laguna and Megane arrived. Being in some of the Alpine and Renault Sport owners clubs I know loads of people who would be more than happy to agree (with me). Have probably had more French cars than anybody on this forum but they have lost their appeal in recent years. My 406 3.0 Executive was perfectly reliable and a couple of Citroen Berlingo vans gave sterling service so maybe it's just Renault!


Edited by Notanotherturbo on Friday 25th October 16:54

Notanotherturbo

357 posts

157 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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miken2k8 said:
Crumpet said:
I’ve had three French cars - Laguna, Clio and a 307. Every single one of them left me stranded, multiple times in the case of the 307 and the Clio. They’re st.

On the other hand, none of the seven British cars I’ve had have left me stranded anywhere. Plenty of issues with them, but I’ll take a whiny differential or leaky air conditioning over self-combustion.

Shedding in a French car is very brave!
i did 10000 miles in 3 months in an 05 laguna earlier this year with no oil checks or anything. Admittedly it had been looked after but you'll often find the unreliability comes down to a lack of proper maintenence. This fuels the steep depreciation of french cars and gives them a throwaway reputation at 10 years, bit like vauxhalls. Shame really. Even the saxo 1.1 i had 10 years ago hit the limiter without oil change for 20000 miles and the xsara i had last year did 12000 miles without any checks. S reg 200 quid. I just don't believe what i'm reading in this thread.
Mental note - Never buy a car off Miken 2k8 smile

EyeHeartSpellin

124 posts

33 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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I think at Shed money that looks like a decent amount of car for the money.

We bought a 206 1.4 16v Sport new in 2006. It had to go to the big scrap heap in the sky last month sadly but it never once broke down.

FN2TypeR

6,597 posts

43 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Can you get a Swift Sport for this sorta money? I recall seeing one as SOTW some time ago, I think

Anyway, I'd buy one of those instead, if so

Turbobanana

1,710 posts

151 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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FN2TypeR said:
Can you get a Swift Sport for this sorta money? I recall seeing one as SOTW some time ago, I think

Anyway, I'd buy one of those instead, if so
Not if you needed rear legroom you wouldn't.

ZX10R NIN

16,510 posts

75 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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I'd say this is a decent shed with some decent performance.

FN2TypeR

6,597 posts

43 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Turbobanana said:
FN2TypeR said:
Can you get a Swift Sport for this sorta money? I recall seeing one as SOTW some time ago, I think

Anyway, I'd buy one of those instead, if so
Not if you needed rear legroom you wouldn't.
I don't biggrin

GTiWILL

264 posts

28 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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fernando the frog said:
Toyota also sell cars that are just rebadged Citroens..
Edited by fernando the frog on Friday 25th October 11:58
Toyota only use the Toyota sourced 1.0 engine, whereas Citroen and Peugeot also offer the 1.2 PSA engine alongside the Toyota sourced 1.0.

Why do you think that is?

aaron_2000

3,516 posts

33 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Other than electrics, weren't 80's and 90's Peugeots pretty solid? My 205 GTi had 180k on the clock and still made nearly factory power, interior wasn't worn and it still drove sharp. Every 405 I've ever driven has still felt solid and sharp too.

ChasW

1,940 posts

152 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Based on a sample of three post-2008 Peugeots over an aggregate of 14 years ownership, only one unexpected fault; a starter motor.

apm142001

67 posts

39 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Aside from the shed, which I sort of like because it’s unusual but isn’t really my thing, I find the love/hate french car debate interesting; some thoughts on that:

To date I’ve had 2 Rovers, followed by 3 BMWs, and currently a Duster for work. Always been big on preventative maintenance.

The Duster is my first French (or basically French) car and has been a mixed bag (some rust, and it isn’t an early Indian-built one either) and dubious electrics. However, it takes unsympathetic use carrying heavy stuff and barrelling through rough lanes etc without complaining. On the french theme, my brother - who has the mechanical sympathy of Jeremy Clarkson - did 300 miles a week for two years, cross-country with lots of overtaking, in a 6 year old, 80000 miles 206GTi with no issue at all (and he didn’t even service it in that time, the philistine).

Of my cars, the most reliable? My second Rover, a 1999 216. The least? My low-mileage, full BMW SH, mollycoddled E46 330Ci.

The point of this ramble? Quality control on anything so complex as a modern (ish) car is likely to have inconsistencies, so generalisations are likely to be dubious.

All I’d say is, the French don’t appear to wholly deserve their reputation for unreliability, the Germans DEFINITELY don’t appear to deserve their ‘bulletproof, will go on for ever’ reputation.

Nik Gnashers

193 posts

106 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Not for me thank you.
Even 'if' the reputation for flimsy unreliability wasn't true, it's just a rubbish car.
It couldn't even keep up with my 320d touring, so how is it even a 'warm' hatch ?
I'd guesstimate that roughly one in every 6 french cars I see on the roads has at least one not-working light, and that includes new cars. Electrically they are nightmares.

Earl of Petrol

124 posts

72 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Lots of negativity around French cars. Had several no issue at all, had 6 Alfa’s no problems at all, 2 VW’s and 1 Audi, will never buy either again.

RaymondVanDerDon

553 posts

87 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Does this have the same engine as the 207 GTi 175? All the used car guides recommend to avoid that on engine reliability grounds.

fwaggie

1,564 posts

150 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Now I'm living in Trumpton I do miss the prices and condition of used cars in the UK.

Just bought a car for the missus and every one we looked at was on the slippery slope to becoming a heap. Everyone here treats them like white goods, dings are unavoidable and never get repaired, driving nose to bumper means low speed front / rear end nudges are unavoidable resulting in bashed bumpers, poorly repainted and poorly refitted. Milages are high. Interiors deteriorate a lot quicker in high temperatures.

And I remember being jealous of the low price of new cars in the US. Hah!

Rich Boy Spanner

367 posts

80 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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I won't buy any European cars with my own money. VW Group - DSG, Twin-Charger, Diesel Gate and now the Super Kangaroo 1.5TSi (I have one in an Octavia company car and the fix doesn't work). I avoided anything French after I used to take our Renault work van (A Kangoo which was actually really reliable) to Renault and every time saw the queues of people arguing over huge bills for something electrical. Had a Toyota for 12 years, had 2 faults.

The SOTW, at that age it's probably worth a punt as much as anything else. At least it could be a bit of a laugh.

Jimmy Recard

16,151 posts

129 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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GTiWILL said:
Toyota only use the Toyota sourced 1.0 engine, whereas Citroen and Peugeot also offer the 1.2 PSA engine alongside the Toyota sourced 1.0.

Why do you think that is?
Citroen and Peugeot want to offer buyers the choice of a slightly more powerful version as that's what some of them want

CDP

5,800 posts

204 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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I would but I'd be thinking of the 306...