Subaru vs bike head on collision.

Subaru vs bike head on collision.

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STe_rsv4

Original Poster:

655 posts

98 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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Police recently released this video. Ouch

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=301569...

Hadn't realised that subarus had such chronic understeer! Nasty crash which left the biker with life changing injuries. Probably my biggest fear when out riding country roads.

Dont like rolls

3,798 posts

54 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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F me !

A working visit to Stoke Mandeville Hospital in the mid 90's convinced me to dump my bike days for good. The results of this type of thing and long slides on tarmac were to much reality. I miss the thrills and the speeds but.....

Goldfever4

113 posts

74 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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Good advert for the airbag systems if nothing else.

Hope the biker is recovering OK, mentally as well as physically.

dasbimmerowner

364 posts

141 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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Jeez, that poor guy on the bike (who's also very lucky to be alive!).

Was the impact speed 70mph or was that what the Scooby was doing?

Also the grey Volvo following closely; Police?

poo at Paul's

14,143 posts

175 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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That’s some proper st driving, his line is one of a complete muppet.

zarjaz1991

3,480 posts

123 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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The driver is, or more likely was, chairman of the Subaru International Drivers Club. They'd been on a run.

Meridius

1,608 posts

152 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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dasbimmerowner said:
Also the grey Volvo following closely; Police?
Think its a Subaru Legacy estate, so possibly these two were out driving together? might be why they've both had dashcams on.

Impreza driver seemed almost oblivious that there was a corner coming up.

CoolHands

18,606 posts

195 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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I didn’t think the corner was that obvious. Also I’m actually surprised the Subaru appeared to be going fairly, want I would consider, steady? I expect many would have been hoofing it between corners, but he wasn’t.

warch

2,941 posts

154 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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That car washed out horribly, 4wd road cars are prone to doing that, especially with an unskilled driver at the wheel. Biker's worst nightmare that, he had absolutely nowhere to go and no time to react even if he did.

One thing that is a problem these days is some drivers drive on the centre line or other side of the road to carry more speed through corners or to avoid potholes. Fair enough with decent visibilty but lethal if not. I nearly had a similar accident last year on my bike with an articulated lorry occupying most of my lane. Nerve shaking at best.

Leptons

5,113 posts

176 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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We arrived at this accident whilst they were working on the biker. Judging by the state of the Impreza We honestly thought he would have died from it so it’s good to see that he made it!

Thought they must’ve been on a run...

jules_s

4,277 posts

233 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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Shocking

I'm thinking/hoping the stoppie help him out too

poo at Paul's

14,143 posts

175 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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16 months seems a bit light, out in 10.


Mr Tidy

22,259 posts

127 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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poo at Paul's said:
That’s some proper st driving, his line is one of a complete muppet.
And/or some terminal understeer from the Subaru muppet (where is ericmcn)?

I'm just glad the biker survived and I hope he makes a good recovery - but it does put me off getting a bike. frown


zarjaz1991

3,480 posts

123 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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poo at Paul's said:
16 months seems a bit light, out in 10.
He'll be out in 8. You serve half.

rallycross

12,786 posts

237 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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Horrible to see, there really was no time for avoidance reaction hope the biker makes a decent recovery lucky to be alive.

For all those who go out in convoy for a blast just keep this accident in the back of your mind one slip up where you push too hard and run wide could kill someone, save it for the track.

untakenname

4,965 posts

192 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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I'm not sure why the driver didn't steer more into the corner, it looks like he went round it wide and then just stayed out in the wrong lane rather than head back to the correct side asap.

Subaru's with factory geometry and ARB's understeer horribly, I thought I'd be better able to make progress in my WRX with it having much more power and 4WD but on undulating B roads my RX8 feels much more planted (both are on decent coilovers).

Glenn63

2,749 posts

84 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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The corner does seem to catch him by surprise but it doesn’t look like he’s going that fast tbh, I had a hawk sti and it handled brilliantly never washed out like that and the following car made it ok was very close the biker on the ground though! If it was me I think I would have gone for the grass seeing that biker heading directly at me, easier said after and watching a video of course.

Mastodon2

13,825 posts

165 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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That wasn't "Subaru washout" or "4WD understeer", it was purely bad driving. To try and excuse it as anything else is just making excuses.

On a "run", driving beyond his capabilities, not reading the road, panicking and running wide.

Edited by Mastodon2 on Saturday 11th January 06:56

Don Roque

17,995 posts

159 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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The car could have easily made that corner, it was the driver that didn't. In the right gear, steering on when needed, he could have pulled that back. It was the corner that took the driver by surprise and he was fixated on the bike at the critical moment. Unfortunately the driver gets just about everything wrong and the biker paid the price. The car, it's setup and driven wheels aren't to blame.

Leptons

5,113 posts

176 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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My guess would be too busy looking at his mate behind and the corner crept up on him. It’s not a huge bend that (the camera makes it look worse) but it is undulating like the rest of the strines road. If you wanted to take it at speed you would want to take some of the opposite carriageway before the bend, visibility is good. I ran a 300bhp WRX for three years and know the road well.

Up until now we had actually thought he’d been overtaking the legacy and hit the biker because we couldn’t work out why the Impreza was on the wrong side of the road!