Toyota Supra (A80) | Spotted

Toyota Supra (A80) | Spotted

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cerb4.5lee

13,346 posts

129 months

Tuesday 14th January
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TommoAE86 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Not much love for the Supra then. frown

I've not got a hairy chest and they've always seriously appealed to me. I've not had a go in one though so perhaps I'd change my mind after a drive in one.

I always liked the looks/performance and the inviting interior. Plus performance tuning wise it is a serious bit of kit for me.
I love it beer anything from Japan is brilliant to me.
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I'm the same and I love Jap stuff too. cool

There was always something really special about these and I remember reading the reviews at the time and wanting one so much. I've always liked the Nissan 300ZX and the Mitsubishi 3000 GT as well.

This era of Japanese car just grabs me so much. smile

cerb4.5lee

13,346 posts

129 months

Tuesday 14th January
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BUG4LIFE said:
I'm a big fan of the Mk4 Supra and would defo have one in my dream garage [next to an R34 GTR, NSX Type-R, RX7 Spirit-R and Lexus LFA Nurburgring].

Mine would have to be pretty standard though, upping power and nicer wheels.

£30k is a bunch of money for a car with 100k miles though...you'd have to really want a UK car.
Yes and I don't think that there are many Jap cars that I don't like in fairness. thumbup

I'd also want one just mildly tweaked. Agree that £30k isn't cheap for the mileage but UK cars do seem really sought after.

TommoAE86

2,028 posts

76 months

Tuesday 14th January
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cerb4.5lee said:
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I'm the same and I love Jap stuff too. cool

There was always something really special about these and I remember reading the reviews at the time and wanting one so much. I've always liked the Nissan 300ZX and the Mitsubishi 3000 GT as well.

This era of Japanese car just grabs me so much. smile
Agree with you there is alot special even with the 'humdrum' stuff, every time I look at my Crown I can't help but smile. Anything from the late 70's forwards just has me longing for a lottery win! I'm never sure about the 3000GT just looks heavy to me but I've never even sat in one so I'm sure I can be converted, the 300ZX though still looks modern to me! smile

cerb4.5lee

13,346 posts

129 months

Tuesday 14th January
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TommoAE86 said:
Agree with you there is alot special even with the 'humdrum' stuff, every time I look at my Crown I can't help but smile. Anything from the late 70's forwards just has me longing for a lottery win! I'm never sure about the 3000GT just looks heavy to me but I've never even sat in one so I'm sure I can be converted, the 300ZX though still looks modern to me! smile
Yes and the 3000GT did get a bit of a hard time review wise for sure. The tech intrigued me though(for the time) and that made it a little bit special to me. It is probably a right pudding to drive though!

I had a passenger ride in the 300ZX back in the day and I was totally smitten. I looked at buying one a few years later but my garage at the time wasn't big enough for it sadly.

Zetec-S

3,392 posts

42 months

Tuesday 14th January
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DanielSan said:
Don't get the big deal with a standard Mk4 Supra, they look a bit weird and the standard wheels are gash. Give me something like this any day..




It's modifying that's made these cars legendary so why own a standard one.
yes

If I won the lottery I'd be considering one as part of my collection and it would be modified, that's part of the appeal.

Zetec-S

3,392 posts

42 months

Tuesday 14th January
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ZeroGroundZero said:
In stock form I'd agree it is not a 'sports car', it is a moderately powered GT car. But it is of course a performance car.

However with even a mild tune the car is transformed in to a sports GT, capable of putting in some respectable times around the Nurburgring.
Give the car over 400bhp with a better air intake, intercooler, boost controller and the engine revs faster and the turbos spool up quicker. Add to that a modern adjustable suspension kit and the car becomes something you can chuck around a track with confidence and ability to 'compete' with toys much much more expensive.

Sold my uk-spec mildly tuned Supra last year as the prices had shot up in to 'crazy' money. Now struggling to find anything to replace it with without looking in to the >£100k market.
Genuine question - even 50k buys an awful lot of motor, let alone 50-100k. Would you honestly say something like a 911, M3/M4, or even (to keep with the GT theme) a new Mustang doesn't compare favourably?

Plate spinner

13,911 posts

149 months

Tuesday 14th January
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BUG4LIFE said:
Plate spinner said:
Nope, don’t see the appeal at that price - didn’t want one then or now.

I liked gran tourismo and was of that generation but thought F&F was a load of turd...
Good for you smile
Indeed smile

Not thread trolling and can see why others like it, just an opinion.

Scootersp

1,122 posts

137 months

Tuesday 14th January
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V8 FOU said:
swampy442 said:
so be sure to get the boroscope out and get behind those skirts
I got arrested last time I tried that........
lol

ravster

39 posts

181 months

Tuesday 14th January
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https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Sorry for the thread hijack but thought my crazy and perhaps unnecessary restoration of a UK Supra might bring amusement.


I am not saying they are worth £30k, I guess the market will decide that. The red car has been on sale for a while and been reduced in price to where it is now.

Having sold my stock UK Auto last year, there is a market for them but my observation is that the money is in the originality (not to say they shouldn't be modified, just my experience). I was surprised with the people who contacted me about that car in terms of other cars they had and extensive collections but I guess it's all speculative. The one question the people really willing to pay top money always asked was is there anything non stock on the car as they wouldn't consider it otherwise.

Great cars but I would say that :-)

Edited by ravster on Tuesday 14th January 15:01

Jon_S_Rally

687 posts

37 months

Tuesday 14th January
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C7 JFW said:
Hold on a minute.

It was the bodykits and 1,000bhp that made me want one. I'd buy one to have it WITH the kit, not without.
DanielSan said:
Don't get the big deal with a standard Mk4 Supra, they look a bit weird and the standard wheels are gash. Give me something like this any day..




It's modifying that's made these cars legendary so why own a standard one.
I'm with the above. While I do appreciate the standard car, it was modified versions that made the car the legend that it is today. Yes, some of the US-influenced stuff was a bit garrish, but the modified versions that the likes of Top Secret, Jun and Veilside were knocking out around the turn of the century were simply mind blowing. I follow a guy on Instgram that has one that held some kind of Nurburgring lap record. I think Blitz built it. Surely the most famous of all is the one that 'Smoky' Nagata brought over to the UK and got arrested on the A1 in? You can keep your standard car, give me one like that any day.

ZeroGroundZero

148 posts

3 months

Tuesday 14th January
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Zetec-S said:
Genuine question - even 50k buys an awful lot of motor, let alone 50-100k. Would you honestly say something like a 911, M3/M4, or even (to keep with the GT theme) a new Mustang doesn't compare favourably?
Good question, something I've been mulling over for weeks/months.
The 911 option would have to be the 997 Turbo for around £50k - but I have fears this would be too grippy on the road with its 4WD, much like a GTR, offering little to no playfulness. Engine sound and sense of occasion also said by many to be a disappointment.

Regarding the M3/M4, spending upwards of £40k on what is a saloon car is something I'd have to fight around in my head. The positives of the M3/M4 is that they are powerful enough and they are RWD for the fun factor. Negatives are the faux cabin engine noise and the computer controlled downshift rev matching blip. Also dare I say, they are a bit 'bland' (in terms of they don't look that much different to other 3 or 4 series BMWs) and quite common on the roads and therefore will depreciate a lot over the coming years.

The Mustang unfortunately doesn't float my boat at all. The new Corvette C8 would have though, until I found out that UK buyers would be paying nearly double the price than what American buyers would pay, due to import taxes and the like.

My strongest contender is a bit of a compromise, and that is the V10 R8. 4WD I know, but apparently it is rear biased in the power delivery and never sends more than 35%? to the front. (I think).
Downside here is that the R8 is nowhere near practical enough for any road trips lasting more than a long weekend.
Also considered the AM Vantage 4.7 V8 in the £50k region - however maintenance costs are the preventative factor here. And also the acceleration figures (power to weight) are no better than the Supra I had.

Dodge Viper has also flown across the radar - but I think I'm looking for something a bit more 'refined'.
Cerberra also an option but these are now quickly becoming dated and have the hairy chest and medallion image. wink
Other TVRs again are the maintenance issues and the common occurrence of problems they run in to.


The A80 Supra offered a particular set of criteria that is not found in the modern crop of performance cars.
(Maybe I shouldn't have sold mine!)

Scootersp

1,122 posts

137 months

Tuesday 14th January
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Much love here for the Supra, you don't have 10 of one car over the years and not love them!

It's all a bit crazy and arse about face re the pricing though. For a few years these cars gave the real upper echelons a run for their money, people going over exact BHP/ton proves they were close (unlike say the mkv). Then they got seriously cheap in the booming Japanese import era 2001-2012 ish and were still quick cars.

They were absolutely solid if serviced, they could take a mild boost increase and retain that rock solid reliability, so were I think one of if not the performance bargains of the 2000's? I took my second car (stock UK) to RAF Woodbridge and got to over 160mph indicated in whatever length we had, this is in around 2001. Proper rocket ships back then, not great off the line/launching but huge mid range and over taking capability and no huge drop off over 100mph (quite good aero?) Also whilst the comparisons to the 355 etc, it could have been run and serviced (well) on a comparative shoe string and there were loads of 100/200K mile ones, also many imports went through the KM/Mile 'adjusted' milage cycle a few times. It was a well build hardy car that rivaled the top cars of its era.

Loads of better cars in many ways now for the money but I think you really do need to go/spend big to get a real performance leap and they can get under your skin with their longevity and general competence, plus before you couldn't get a sniff at a decent price for them so why move on? Now owners are considering other cars as the Supra can get them a fair way to something interesting, especially as most Supra's despite their build quality are starting to need work, tidying at the least.

So again a bit arse about face for me as the prices are very high for what are normally unrestored cars, you certainly need to be careful to avoid this just being the start of the spending as along with the above parts prices are starting to boom too.

So no longer a performance bargain that's for sure, moving into the modern classic era where it's more a heart over head decision.

I get the people saying it's an old Toyota and you can get this this and this for the same or less but that's what I'd say about an E type etc some cars just forge a niche maybe the Supra has/will.






tberg

119 posts

10 months

Tuesday 14th January
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Having recently seen the new Supra, in person, it's so ugly that the older ones look like supercars in comparison. I'm still partial to the original fastback design, however.

DanielSan

14,615 posts

116 months

Tuesday 14th January
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Jon_S_Rally said:
C7 JFW said:
Hold on a minute.

It was the bodykits and 1,000bhp that made me want one. I'd buy one to have it WITH the kit, not without.
DanielSan said:
Don't get the big deal with a standard Mk4 Supra, they look a bit weird and the standard wheels are gash. Give me something like this any day..




It's modifying that's made these cars legendary so why own a standard one.
I'm with the above. While I do appreciate the standard car, it was modified versions that made the car the legend that it is today. Yes, some of the US-influenced stuff was a bit garrish, but the modified versions that the likes of Top Secret, Jun and Veilside were knocking out around the turn of the century were simply mind blowing. I follow a guy on Instgram that has one that held some kind of Nurburgring lap record. I think Blitz built it. Surely the most famous of all is the one that 'Smoky' Nagata brought over to the UK and got arrested on the A1 in? You can keep your standard car, give me one like that any day.
I remember the Blitz car being featured in Max think it was around 98 Silver car with graphics and the gold Blitz split rims that look like they were designed to be put on a Suprs they suit it that well.

Quick Goohle search found this video

https://youtu.be/egZTgGPQLBk


Trevor555

1,400 posts

33 months

Tuesday 14th January
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There used to be a white one that was a regular at Santa Pod, maybe 11 years ago?

Was that anyone on here?

I'd love to know what horsepower that car was.

I can't remember the quarter mile times, but they were fast, very fast.

Scootersp

1,122 posts

137 months

Tuesday 14th January
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Trevor555 said:
There used to be a white one that was a regular at Santa Pod, maybe 11 years ago?

Was that anyone on here?

I'd love to know what horsepower that car was.

I can't remember the quarter mile times, but they were fast, very fast.
I know a "Robbie" that had a UK spec automatic that he went to town on to get quick quarter mile times (10.66 @ 125.43 MPH from the Supraforum)

around 2006-2007 this would have been?


Trevor555

1,400 posts

33 months

Tuesday 14th January
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Scootersp said:
Trevor555 said:
There used to be a white one that was a regular at Santa Pod, maybe 11 years ago?

Was that anyone on here?

I'd love to know what horsepower that car was.

I can't remember the quarter mile times, but they were fast, very fast.
I know a "Robbie" that had a UK spec automatic that he went to town on to get quick quarter mile times (10.66 @ 125.43 MPH from the Supraforum)

around 2006-2007 this would have been?
Yes, could have been those years. And sounds like some impressive times there, must be the one. It was a white auto.

Steamer

11,505 posts

162 months

Tuesday 14th January
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tberg said:
Having recently seen the new Supra, in person, it's so ugly that the older ones look like supercars in comparison. I'm still partial to the original fastback design, however.
Agree with this point.



chelme

719 posts

119 months

Tuesday 14th January
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Wow! 100,000 miles on the clock and £29k?!

It was never THAT great a car.

andyj007

85 posts

127 months

Tuesday 14th January
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29k the worlds mad