Bentley Bentayga, London. What's the point?
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DoubleD said:
thelostboy said:
You're not paying £180,000 though, really, you are paying for its depreciation and and running costs.
So about £180k then ha haDoubleD said:
So what are your actual issues with the Bentley?
Not a lot, per se."TyrannosauRoss Lex" made some point about how luxurious it was. I pointed out that many, much, much cheaper cars were fairly luxurious and comfortable (how comfortable does a human need?) in the grand scheme of things.
He also made some point about the large number of cylinders -which ceased to be an issue as far as comfort/refinement, in any meaningful sense, is concerned many years ago. Yes, I understand about rotational balance and all that.
It's a big, expensive, showy vehicle that happens to look fairly ugly. I see them around here. It is excessive as a car, and takes the excess to a fairly high level for a UK car (I know that the US has bigger and thirstier, if not as expensive, family cars) It's difficult to argue that it isn't.
I wouldn't buy one to drive into a big, busy city. I know other people do. I'm not advocating banning them.
MC Bodge said:
DoubleD said:
So what are your actual issues with the Bentley?
Not a lot, per se."TyrannosauRoss Lex" made some point about how luxurious it was. I pointed out that many, much, much cheaper cars were fairly luxurious and comfortable (how comfortable does a human need?) in the grand scheme of things.
He also made some point about the large number of cylinders -which ceased to be an issue as far as comfort/refinement, in any meaningful sense, is concerned many years ago. Yes, I understand about rotational balance and all that.
It's a big, expensive, showy vehicle that happens to look fairly ugly. I see them around here. It is excessive as a car, and takes the excess to a fairly high level for a UK car (I know that the US has bigger and thirstier, if not as expensive, family cars) It's difficult to argue that it isn't.
I wouldn't buy one to drive into a big, busy city. I know other people do. I'm not advocating banning them.
MarJay said:
I just don't get it, and it would be great if someone could explain it to me. Mind you, I don't get 'Adventure' bikes or 'SUV's or 'Crossovers' at the best of times, so maybe it's just me?
Point is that the owner likes nice stuff. I suspect that it won't be their only means of transport and you might bump into them again on Ducati next week. Who gives a damn? DoubleD said:
Its a luxurious car and will be more comfortable and will be a nicer place to be than any much much cheaper car. I guess thats why people like them to drive in London.
My point being that once "comfort" is achieved, and luxury is available, which can be found at a much cheaper price point, then going above and beyond is fairly academic and just spending money for the sake of it.As I said, I'm not advocating banning it.
romeodelta said:
biggbn said:
I find the big Bentley repugnant. But I can appreciate others don't. What a strange thread. Guy probably bought it because he wanted one. And I can think of no better reason to buy a car. Good luck to him/her. My only observation would be if I could afford 180k for a car I would not drive in London, I would be driven!!
I know this sounds a bit 'PH', but a 180k car doesn't necessarily mean you can afford (or want) a driver.MC Bodge said:
My point being that once "comfort" is achieved, and luxury is available, which can be found at a much cheaper price point, then going above and beyond is fairly academic and just spending money for the sake of it.
In your budgetary world perhaps. How much do you spend when you eat out?
MC Bodge said:
DoubleD said:
Its a luxurious car and will be more comfortable and will be a nicer place to be than any much much cheaper car. I guess thats why people like them to drive in London.
My point being that once "comfort" is achieved, and luxury is available, which can be found at a much cheaper price point, then going above and beyond is fairly academic and just spending money for the sake of it.As I said, I'm not advocating banning it.
Not suggesting anything like they are VFM , the spend comfort graph is not linear it’s starts to approach exponential as you progress spending
It’s just nice to have a choice where to pitch your place on that graph .
They are great places to be in I particularly like the double glazing on the door glasses ...sound insulation
I have a W12 Conti GT as a Dailey btw . Feels smooth and effortless although mentioned earlier re 4 cylinders I doubt very much anything other than a 12 would be as refined or have as wide power delivery.The knowledge ( in London etc ) of having the ommph and I guess sending out a subliminal msg I can afford it ( fuel bill ) is a part of the allure .
It’s like the “ best car “ has to have the top engine as well ......if that makes sense ?
Sort of no 1/2 measures , dilution .
MC Bodge said:
DoubleD said:
Its a luxurious car and will be more comfortable and will be a nicer place to be than any much much cheaper car. I guess thats why people like them to drive in London.
My point being that once "comfort" is achieved, and luxury is available, which can be found at a much cheaper price point, then going above and beyond is fairly academic and just spending money for the sake of it.As I said, I'm not advocating banning it.
You say it's spending money for the sake of it....that just isn't true.
romeodelta said:
biggbn said:
I find the big Bentley repugnant. But I can appreciate others don't. What a strange thread. Guy probably bought it because he wanted one. And I can think of no better reason to buy a car. Good luck to him/her. My only observation would be if I could afford 180k for a car I would not drive in London, I would be driven!!
I know this sounds a bit 'PH', but a 180k car doesn't necessarily mean you can afford (or want) a driver.biggbn said:
romeodelta said:
biggbn said:
I find the big Bentley repugnant. But I can appreciate others don't. What a strange thread. Guy probably bought it because he wanted one. And I can think of no better reason to buy a car. Good luck to him/her. My only observation would be if I could afford 180k for a car I would not drive in London, I would be driven!!
I know this sounds a bit 'PH', but a 180k car doesn't necessarily mean you can afford (or want) a driver.TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
This is where you're wrong dear chap. Sit in a Rolls Royce Phantom and tell me the difference between it and a 7 series BMW is "academic". Having owned 2 7 series, and having been in a brand new one as well as sitting in the current and previous generation Phantom, you are wildly, wildly wrong. Either that or you can't appreciate the niceties.
You say it's spending money for the sake of it....that just isn't true.
We are not talking about a Rolls Royce Phantom, although that would be even more of a pain to drive and park in London. You say it's spending money for the sake of it....that just isn't true.
At one time an expensive car would be more reliable and much more comfortable and luxurious. Normal cars were often primitive.
It's not really about the "luxury" or "comfort" nowadays. Many normal other cars are luxurious -most modern cars have more features than you can shake a stick at, and many are not in any way uncomfortable or unreliable.
Maybe you are sensitive.
I refer you to the story of the Princess and The Pea.
MC Bodge said:
We are not talking about a Rolls Royce Phantom, although that would be even more of a pain to drive and park in London.
At one time an expensive car would be more reliable and much more comfortable and luxurious. Normal cars were often primitive.
It's not really about the "luxury" or "comfort" nowadays. Many normal other cars are luxurious -most modern cars have more features than you can shake a stick at, and many are not in any way uncomfortable or unreliable.
So are you saying that a Bentley isnt any more comfortable and luxurious than a new but much cheaper car? Say something like a focus or a mondeo?At one time an expensive car would be more reliable and much more comfortable and luxurious. Normal cars were often primitive.
It's not really about the "luxury" or "comfort" nowadays. Many normal other cars are luxurious -most modern cars have more features than you can shake a stick at, and many are not in any way uncomfortable or unreliable.
DoubleD said:
So are you saying that a Bentley isnt any more comfortable and luxurious than a new but much cheaper car? Say something like a focus or a mondeo?
I haven’t been in a Bentley or Rolls Royce for a couple of years, but I suspect the difference between some very comfy Volvo seats and a new Bentley would be pretty slim. And I’m in agreement that most modern cars have almost everything you could possibly want these days...However! The difference for me between a modern car and a car like a Bentley is that extra 10% that makes it special. And that’s what people pay the big bucks for.
Fine by me. If you’ve got the money, enjoy the finer things in life. Can’t take it with you.
MC Bodge said:
We are not talking about a Rolls Royce Phantom, although that would be even more of a pain to drive and park in London.
At one time an expensive car would be more reliable and much more comfortable and luxurious. Normal cars were often primitive.
It's not really about the "luxury" or "comfort" nowadays. Many normal other cars are luxurious -most modern cars have more features than you can shake a stick at, and many are not in any way uncomfortable or unreliable.
So how much do you spend when you eat out? At one time an expensive car would be more reliable and much more comfortable and luxurious. Normal cars were often primitive.
It's not really about the "luxury" or "comfort" nowadays. Many normal other cars are luxurious -most modern cars have more features than you can shake a stick at, and many are not in any way uncomfortable or unreliable.
Alextodrive said:
DoubleD said:
So are you saying that a Bentley isnt any more comfortable and luxurious than a new but much cheaper car? Say something like a focus or a mondeo?
I haven’t been in a Bentley or Rolls Royce for a couple of years, but I suspect the difference between some very comfy Volvo seats and a new Bentley would be pretty slim. And I’m in agreement that most modern cars have almost everything you could possibly want these days...However! The difference for me between a modern car and a car like a Bentley is that extra 10% that makes it special. And that’s what people pay the big bucks for.
Fine by me. If you’ve got the money, enjoy the finer things in life. Can’t take it with you.
As I said how many other cars have double glazing ?
Air suspension ?
Real wood , everything covered in leather not just the seats .I mean everything.....,door jams , centre console , rear parcel shelf to name a few .
Everything is either leather metal ( switches ) or real wood .
With the woods you can spec extra woods .
Just a nice place to be .
Air suspension ?
Real wood , everything covered in leather not just the seats .I mean everything.....,door jams , centre console , rear parcel shelf to name a few .
Everything is either leather metal ( switches ) or real wood .
With the woods you can spec extra woods .
Just a nice place to be .
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