Bentley Bentayga, London. What's the point?
Discussion
MarJay said:
I find that kind of sad. I am neither super rich, nor dirt poor, but I do spend my money in such a way that gets me what I want, and what I want is the things that matter to me. Cars and bikes matter, houses matter, and I like gaming so I have a few consoles and PCs. Anything else? I'll live with it as-is. I have a 6 year old kettle that still boils water pretty quicky. I could probably spend £80 on a new one but why? It's a waste. If everything has equal importance like that, where's the spark? Where's the excitement? Nothing matters because you just pay for it all without a care. I don't think I could live like that. There's this woman who is on TV that people constantly rip the pi$$ out of, you know her, she's always on about stuff sparking joy. If something doesn't spark joy, why would I spend more than I have to on it?
Its a slightly different way of getting that feeling. I worked in an art collectors house in Knightsbridge. You know looking at the paintings on the wall you are looking at the real thing. Unique and beautiful art, that when seen you appreciate its value. Its not just art, its the furniture,the fixtures and fittings,they all are quality stylish and expensive. An indulgent purchase isn't something that comes from John Lewis in their world.
I wonder who would not do it, if the car would cost £10 000 ?
If you earn a lot (lot), then a £200k is like a £10k car for us.
Recently read this : https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/12/21135400/jeff-b...
quote : Jeff Bezos bought the most expensive property in LA with an eighth of a percent of his net worth. If you make $60,000 a year, that’s like spending $75 on a house
Everything need to be put back into perspective...
Comparing bike and car commute doesn't make sense here: it has nothing to deal with the car being a Bentley... A car is a car, big or small. London doesn't really have narrow streets where a Fiat 500 would be beneficial versus a Bentayaga....
If you earn a lot (lot), then a £200k is like a £10k car for us.
Recently read this : https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/12/21135400/jeff-b...
quote : Jeff Bezos bought the most expensive property in LA with an eighth of a percent of his net worth. If you make $60,000 a year, that’s like spending $75 on a house
Everything need to be put back into perspective...
Comparing bike and car commute doesn't make sense here: it has nothing to deal with the car being a Bentley... A car is a car, big or small. London doesn't really have narrow streets where a Fiat 500 would be beneficial versus a Bentayaga....
MarJay said:
I sort of walked into that one didn't I? I was referring to the guy who re-did his £1500 roll wallpaper to move a switch because he bought different furniture. However, if you're REALLY into cars, surely you want something that handles? Something that goes? Something that stops? Surely the same spec of drivetrain in a vehicle half the weight would be better? It just strikes me as a car people buy because they think it's the 'right' one, not because they want it, or because it meets their particular needs. I can't believe nobody has said this yet (and I've been avoiding it) But it's only a VW Tuareg underneath still, right?
A Kawasaki H2 *could* spark joy with me, but would I want to pay £40k for a 215bhp supercharged motorcyle? No. I can get 99% of the experience on a bike costing less than a quarter of that, and the Bentley is exactly the same.
Your trying to apply your own experience to that of other people, which doesn’t always work.A Kawasaki H2 *could* spark joy with me, but would I want to pay £40k for a 215bhp supercharged motorcyle? No. I can get 99% of the experience on a bike costing less than a quarter of that, and the Bentley is exactly the same.
A Bentayga is what, £200k? There are people who earn more than that per day. Why shouldn’t they be allowed to spend a day’s income on a car? £100k, £150k, £200k, it’s all the same to them.
You might think these people spending £1500 on a piece of wallpaper is insane, but it’s the same as you buying a can of coke for £1 from a petrol station rather than waiting to get one for 50p at Tesco. There are people who will think you’re crazy for wasting money so frivolously.
There is somebody who parks his car close to my office every day, he just parks wherever is convenient and doesn’t bother paying for a ticket. He gets a PCN most days but he doesn’t care. It’s more convenient for him to get his secretary to pay the fines every month than it is for him to spend 2 minutes paying for the parking session. £1000 a month on fines to save a couple of minutes a day. Crazy right? But again, when you’re earning hundreds of thousands every single day why would you care?
MarJay said:
However, if you're REALLY into cars, surely you want something that handles? Something that goes? Something that stops? Surely the same spec of drivetrain in a vehicle half the weight would be better? It just strikes me as a car people buy because they think it's the 'right' one, not because they want it, or because it meets their particular needs. I can't believe nobody has said this yet (and I've been avoiding it) But it's only a VW Tuareg underneath still, right?
A Kawasaki H2 *could* spark joy with me, but would I want to pay £40k for a 215bhp supercharged motorcyle? No. I can get 99% of the experience on a bike costing less than a quarter of that, and the Bentley is exactly the same.
But he is sitting in traffic?? How does handling matter for a road car stuck in traffic...A Kawasaki H2 *could* spark joy with me, but would I want to pay £40k for a 215bhp supercharged motorcyle? No. I can get 99% of the experience on a bike costing less than a quarter of that, and the Bentley is exactly the same.
Do you really think he only has one car?
I need a whoosh parrot surely. This is a wind up.
bristolracer said:
Its a slightly different way of getting that feeling. I worked in an art collectors house in Knightsbridge. You know looking at the paintings on the wall you are looking at the real thing. Unique and beautiful art, that when seen you appreciate its value.
Its not just art, its the furniture,the fixtures and fittings,they all are quality stylish and expensive. An indulgent purchase isn't something that comes from John Lewis in their world.
I still find it quite sad. That money could be used to do so much more than moving a lightswitch. I get the art thing to some extent, but again I can't honestly see myself investing in a really valuable painting or sculpture either. But it's not even about that, it's about the fact that I can't see a Bentayga being that special.Its not just art, its the furniture,the fixtures and fittings,they all are quality stylish and expensive. An indulgent purchase isn't something that comes from John Lewis in their world.
Maybe I should drive one?
It's the same with the Urus, and the forthcoming Ferrari SUV.
I tell you what it's like. It's like a cruiser motorcycle. Why would anyone want a cruiser with compromised geometry, comfort, handling, power when they could buy a nice naked or sportsbike which is ten times better for the same money? Because they care too much about what people think about them, that's why.
MarJay said:
However, if you're REALLY into cars, surely you want something that handles? Something that goes? Something that stops? Surely the same spec of drivetrain in a vehicle half the weight would be better?
In London ?MarJay said:
But it's only a VW Tuareg underneath still, right?
With more insonorisation, more comfy seats, nicer interior, better stereo.... Everything you want when driving at 20mph on s
t roads full of potholes and speed bumps (and cameras)If you keep thinking "driving pleasure" and "fast commute" while driving in London, you will not understand car's drivers mind
Greshamst said:
You’re not going to get anywhere quicker in a fiat 500, they still take up a car space in the traffic jam.
If a Bentayga is One Car Unit then a 500 would be 0.57 units. For every four Bentaygas on the road you could linearly fit six 500s.Driving a big car in city traffic just shows contempt for society
Edited by FA57REN on Friday 14th February 12:53
MarJay said:
It's like a cruiser motorcycle. Why would anyone want a cruiser with compromised geometry, comfort, handling, power when they could buy a nice naked or sportsbike which is ten times better for the same money? Because they care too much about what people think about them, that's why.
No it just highlight how pissed off you actually are. Can you confirm that it is illegal to have more than one motorbike and that no one is allowed one for track days and one for touring please?
I think a big 4x4 wafter is great in London. If you can afford it then why not.
As to the why not ride a motorbike.... Colleague at work has just had a rather serious incident in London after a car didn't see him ....so he is off work. On top of that the conversation around where to park where your bike will still be there at the end of the day is common.... Not for me.
I drive a little i3 as it's got good seating position, nice sound system and is dead silent so is a rather nice place to be when sitting a queue.....
As to the why not ride a motorbike.... Colleague at work has just had a rather serious incident in London after a car didn't see him ....so he is off work. On top of that the conversation around where to park where your bike will still be there at the end of the day is common.... Not for me.
I drive a little i3 as it's got good seating position, nice sound system and is dead silent so is a rather nice place to be when sitting a queue.....
MarJay said:
Wills2 said:
You mustn't project your own thoughts and actions on to others, most people won't care or notice the car and why would they?
I think projecting is a bit of a reach there... I don't really care if people own nice things. I own nice things. I just know (and you must know) that there are people out there prepared to take those things away, and the more expensive/valuable the thing, and the more easily you could get rid of it to Eastern Europe/Ex Soviet states/China the more likely people are to use violence to get it. The Bentley has to be a confluence of those things surely? Although admittedly with all of the cameras in London tracking LEZ, ULEZ, congestion charge maybe it's not a thing that happens there?MarJay said:
I still find it quite sad. That money could be used to do so much more than moving a lightswitch. I get the art thing to some extent, but again I can't honestly see myself investing in a really valuable painting or sculpture either. But it's not even about that, it's about the fact that I can't see a Bentayga being that special.
Maybe I should drive one?
It's the same with the Urus, and the forthcoming Ferrari SUV.
I tell you what it's like. It's like a cruiser motorcycle. Why would anyone want a cruiser with compromised geometry, comfort, handling, power when they could buy a nice naked or sportsbike which is ten times better for the same money? Because they care too much about what people think about them, that's why.
You just seem to be absolutely incapable of viewing life through any other prism than your own, really.Maybe I should drive one?
It's the same with the Urus, and the forthcoming Ferrari SUV.
I tell you what it's like. It's like a cruiser motorcycle. Why would anyone want a cruiser with compromised geometry, comfort, handling, power when they could buy a nice naked or sportsbike which is ten times better for the same money? Because they care too much about what people think about them, that's why.
FA57REN said:
Greshamst said:
You’re not going to get anywhere quicker in a fiat 500, they still take up a car space in the traffic jam.
If a Bentayga is One Car Unit then a 500 would be 0.57 units. For every four Bentaygas on the road you could linearly fit six 500s.Driving a big car in city traffic just shows contempt for society
Edited by FA57REN on Friday 14th February 12:53
MarJay said:
I tell you what it's like. It's like a cruiser motorcycle. Why would anyone want a cruiser with compromised geometry, comfort, handling, power when they could buy a nice naked or sportsbike which is ten times better for the same money? Because they care too much about what people think about them, that's why.
I personally don't like cruisers, but I know people who do. Maybe they prefer the comfort, maybe they grew up watching Easy Rider and said 'One day...', maybe their dad had one they got taken out on as a kid. Maybe, just maybe, they just fking wanted one because it's what they fancied at the time. This is going to blow your mind, but some people are different to you and like different things.
Maybe Bentley man has spent the last decade commuting in a S1 Elise and is bored of the lack of creature comforts and fancied a polar opposite as a change. Or maybe he just wanted the bloody thing because he likes it.
Personally I don't get why anyone would buy a STriple when the MV 800 exists. Why? Explain yourself?
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