RE: Ford Mustang Mach-E | Ridden

[dibblecorse]

'Would PH have gone along for a passenger ride in Ford's new all-electric SUV if it wasn't emblazoned with the iconic galloping pony logo we've come to know and love? Honestly? Probably not.'

Is that because PH Towers is now inhabited by a bunch of knobs wholly disconnected from its readership / audience ?

[CAPP0]

I think it's not bad-looking at all, if a little generic. And I get that we need to move on in the world of personal transport. But it's not a Mustang. Should use a different name.

[Rich Boy Spanner]

It's just another blobby SUV. Back end looks nasty. Shouldn't be called a Mustang.

[Jamescrs]

Not a bad looking car, I don't like the nose however. I wonder is there a reason electric cars all seem to have a solid front where the grill would traditionally be?

I get they don't need a grill as they don't require the same airflow of a traditional combustion engine but would a traditional grill be to the detriment of an electric vehicle? I personally think they would look so much better than a solid panel

[Gandahar]

I think making it look similar to a Mustang was a good idea from Ford, I can understand the naming upsetting people though. Mach E would be fine for me.

If Ford can make it handle well, and they have good record, then I think it will get positive test reviews. I don't see many negatives if you need this sort of car to be honest.

I think the government should do road duty on CO2 AND weight though, moving over to weight only as we all go EV, but then I prefer small nimble sports cars so completely biased.

[pb8g09]

Any indications on pricing of these models?

[cidered77]

dibblecorse said:

'Would PH have gone along for a passenger ride in Ford's new all-electric SUV if it wasn't emblazoned with the iconic galloping pony logo we've come to know and love? Honestly? Probably not.'

Is that because PH Towers is now inhabited by a bunch of knobs wholly disconnected from its readership / audience ?

being angry at the team who provide you free content to read every day seems an odd thing to be angry about...



On this thing, i quite like it as a wife friendly daily option. Especially the range. And the price. Looks a very credible Tesla Model Y alternative, but presumably without the worries on parts supplier/service woes/build quality , etc

[sideways man]

I came here to read about Mustangs. Sorry, that’s not a mustang.

[Dr Interceptor]

pb8g09 said:

Any indications on pricing of these models?

https://www.ford.co.uk/shop/price-and-locate/pre-order/build-your-own#/model

[keith333]

£58k for the 370 mile range Mach-E Mustang. I'll just stick to my X5 ta very much.

[T1berious]

I was just about to ask about pricing. I think it looks pretty smart. If that extended battery is good for 370 in real world driving conditions and it's priced competitively, Ford are onto a winner.

i'm guessing mid 30 to 40k for the extended model? I know VW are aiming at sub 30 for the entry iD3.

Yikes! 60K! That's a big ask considering the Korean alternatives are no where near that! Plus the iD3 will also under cut that!

Am I missing something? I thought an iPace starts at 64K? I know where I'd rather go.

Edited by T1berious on Friday 14th February 13:18

Edited by T1berious on Friday 14th February 13:19

[gunit328]

there's no point bringing out any more electric cars until they actually fix the chargers that are currently broken so you can actually charge your car.

[Nick928]

Looks okay and I’m sure the sportier variants will go well, shame it’s hobbled from the outset with Fords ‘couldn’t give a toss’ attitude to customer service.

Telling that the number of pre-orders are from people new to Ford.
There’s a good reason for that!

[TWPC]

dibblecorse said:

'Would PH have gone along for a passenger ride in Ford's new all-electric SUV if it wasn't emblazoned with the iconic galloping pony logo we've come to know and love? Honestly? Probably not.'

Is that because PH Towers is now inhabited by a bunch of knobs wholly disconnected from its readership / audience ?

+1

PH, are you serious? Given how few EVs are on sale, how important Ford is as a car manufacturer and its record on providing PH-friendly attributes in even its most mundane cars, surely you would have gone along for a ride even if it was called the Ford Phlegm?

Edited by TWPC on Friday 14th February 13:33

[Funk]

Dave Hedgehog said:

tim milne said:

Except that once EV sales start to really take hold and Governments begin to lose revenue from fuel taxes, they'll inevitably look at ways of taxing electric vehicles and those savings could evaporate. Now, if this tax is applied via mechanisms like road pricing or if they choose to escalate fuel taxes to help keep incentives in place, that might still make EVs relatively cheap to run compared to ICE vehicles, but the current (pardon the pun) arithmetic won't last.

At best road pricing will be applied evenly to all cars, no government is going to put a barrier in the way of EV transition or turn down extra revenue, fossil cars are going to pay double bubble tax. More realistically fuel duties will go up and EVs will at least for the start with get a discount on road pricing over fossil cars to further encourage transition. Expect tax parity for road pricing to occur when EVs hit 50% of new car sales

I would say their is a 60% chance fuel duty will go up in the next budget

Very interested in the GT version of the Mach E

I suspect that a large part of the reason the Government are pushing 'smart meters' so hard is because it will allow electricity companies to detect in real time the connection of a very high kW draw device - such as an electric car would create - perhaps specifically recognising that overnight when other electricity use is normally lower.

It would then allow them to do effectively an intelligent 'reverse economy 7' and charge more for the period of time that the draw was above the normal baseline overnight read. A massive chunk of this would then go to the Government in "EV tax", replacing the large amounts of fuel tax that will inevitably be lost.

Smart meters are the only way they could do it in real time and with any intelligence.

[rjg48]

Looks nicer than most EVs.

That isn't much of a compliment.

[TWPC]

Dafydd, please give us more info about the car.

Given that you didn't drive it, you could at least have told us about its non-dynamic qualities: how much space is there for luggage and passengers, what are the ergonomics like, how comfy are the seats, what's the warranty, do Ford plan to subsidise the fitting of chargers at home etc etc?

[manracer]

gunit328 said:

there's no point bringing out any more electric cars until they actually fix the chargers that are currently broken so you can actually charge your car.

Ive had a tesla model 3 for 6 months now - still yet to find a broken charger. Thats super chargers, destination chargers, polar, ionity + more.

[sidesauce]

sideways man said:

I came here to read about Mustangs. Sorry, that’s not a mustang.

Ford define what a Mustang is. You do not. And, regardless what what any of us think, this car will sell, and sell well. It's not ugly, priced reasonably and is entirely liveable as a day-to-day prospect.

[Daaaveee]

Looks great, this will be at the top of my shortlist come 2 years time when my current lease ends.