Why a performance car when all cars are near equal
Discussion
alfaspecial said:
And in the Brave New World......
Within a very short period of time - just a decade or so - we will all be forced to buy EVs (if buying new)
Because ICE cars will be 'obsolete' within this time frame the powers that be will, FOR CERTAIN, take the opportunity of legislating for compatibility / autonomy for all vehicles:
1) Performance will be limited by 'Big Brother'. If the speed limit is 30, your car will go no faster than 30 (ie gps limiters)
2) Acceleration / overtaking will likewise be limited to ensure roads are 'safe'. Your car won't deviate from it's correct side of the road.
3) Self driving vehicles (SDV - is this a new acronym!) will need to 'speak' to one another and therefore it's logical to remove individual decision making (drivers) from the equation
4) For self driving to really work to the optimum non self driving cars will be removed from the road, firstly by subsidies for compliant vehicles, then by taxation of non compliant vehicles (NCV) followed by an outright ban of NCVs
Enjoy your driving while you can..... a decade from now the cars we so love and cherish will be but a memory ..... citizens of the Brave New World will be enslaving themselves to 'rent' an overpriced (but payable in affordable weekly instalments) PTD (Personal Transportation Device) one with about as much charisma of a washing machine.
A very accurate prophesy however it might hurt. You already look a show-off & a prat in your expensive fast car sat in a queue amidst the vans & Kia's. I have already ditched nice fast pricey cars & only too happy to bumble along with everybody else at 40mph max. with no worries about speeding fines of some oik damaging my very ordinary car.Within a very short period of time - just a decade or so - we will all be forced to buy EVs (if buying new)
Because ICE cars will be 'obsolete' within this time frame the powers that be will, FOR CERTAIN, take the opportunity of legislating for compatibility / autonomy for all vehicles:
1) Performance will be limited by 'Big Brother'. If the speed limit is 30, your car will go no faster than 30 (ie gps limiters)
2) Acceleration / overtaking will likewise be limited to ensure roads are 'safe'. Your car won't deviate from it's correct side of the road.
3) Self driving vehicles (SDV - is this a new acronym!) will need to 'speak' to one another and therefore it's logical to remove individual decision making (drivers) from the equation
4) For self driving to really work to the optimum non self driving cars will be removed from the road, firstly by subsidies for compliant vehicles, then by taxation of non compliant vehicles (NCV) followed by an outright ban of NCVs
Enjoy your driving while you can..... a decade from now the cars we so love and cherish will be but a memory ..... citizens of the Brave New World will be enslaving themselves to 'rent' an overpriced (but payable in affordable weekly instalments) PTD (Personal Transportation Device) one with about as much charisma of a washing machine.
If you're old enough to have enjoyed motoring at it's best none of the above matters a jot as you'll be dead when all the above comes true.
I read the original point slightly differently, not why buy a Lamborghini over a Ferrari, but if Tesla hatchback can be made to go as quick as a supercar, where does that leave the supercar?
We already have this with hot hatches compared with sports cars, cars don't need to be compromised to be quick anymore, AWD and electronics see to that.
It also seems that with electric it isn't so much a compromise between range and power as it is with and engine. Will compromised, but special cars still have a place? Beyond a silly 2000hp lotus that no one can actually afford that is.
We already have this with hot hatches compared with sports cars, cars don't need to be compromised to be quick anymore, AWD and electronics see to that.
It also seems that with electric it isn't so much a compromise between range and power as it is with and engine. Will compromised, but special cars still have a place? Beyond a silly 2000hp lotus that no one can actually afford that is.
alfaspecial said:
And in the Brave New World......
Within a very short period of time - just a decade or so - we will all be forced to buy EVs (if buying new)
Because ICE cars will be 'obsolete' within this time frame the powers that be will, FOR CERTAIN, take the opportunity of legislating for compatibility / autonomy for all vehicles:
1) Performance will be limited by 'Big Brother'. If the speed limit is 30, your car will go no faster than 30 (ie gps limiters)
2) Acceleration / overtaking will likewise be limited to ensure roads are 'safe'. Your car won't deviate from it's correct side of the road.
3) Self driving vehicles (SDV - is this a new acronym!) will need to 'speak' to one another and therefore it's logical to remove individual decision making (drivers) from the equation
4) For self driving to really work to the optimum non self driving cars will be removed from the road, firstly by subsidies for compliant vehicles, then by taxation of non compliant vehicles (NCV) followed by an outright ban of NCVs
Enjoy your driving while you can..... a decade from now the cars we so love and cherish will be but a memory ..... citizens of the Brave New World will be enslaving themselves to 'rent' an overpriced (but payable in affordable weekly instalments) PTD (Personal Transportation Device) one with about as much charisma of a washing machine.
I don't see 3 happening for a long time, radar cruise, lane following etc on a motorway is one thing, the variables there are fewer. On urban or country roads and I see far more random stuff to thwart the programming. Random but not necessarily uncommon events that occur every hour of every day across the country, even the worst knuckle scrappers or dipsy old person processes a massive amount of information quickly. Within a very short period of time - just a decade or so - we will all be forced to buy EVs (if buying new)
Because ICE cars will be 'obsolete' within this time frame the powers that be will, FOR CERTAIN, take the opportunity of legislating for compatibility / autonomy for all vehicles:
1) Performance will be limited by 'Big Brother'. If the speed limit is 30, your car will go no faster than 30 (ie gps limiters)
2) Acceleration / overtaking will likewise be limited to ensure roads are 'safe'. Your car won't deviate from it's correct side of the road.
3) Self driving vehicles (SDV - is this a new acronym!) will need to 'speak' to one another and therefore it's logical to remove individual decision making (drivers) from the equation
4) For self driving to really work to the optimum non self driving cars will be removed from the road, firstly by subsidies for compliant vehicles, then by taxation of non compliant vehicles (NCV) followed by an outright ban of NCVs
Enjoy your driving while you can..... a decade from now the cars we so love and cherish will be but a memory ..... citizens of the Brave New World will be enslaving themselves to 'rent' an overpriced (but payable in affordable weekly instalments) PTD (Personal Transportation Device) one with about as much charisma of a washing machine.
Also there will be a massive resistance (to a ban) from the general population.
alfaspecial said:
And in the Brave New World......
Within a very short period of time - just a decade or so - we will all be forced to buy EVs (if buying new)
Because ICE cars will be 'obsolete' within this time frame the powers that be will, FOR CERTAIN, take the opportunity of legislating for compatibility / autonomy for all vehicles:
1) Performance will be limited by 'Big Brother'. If the speed limit is 30, your car will go no faster than 30 (ie gps limiters)
2) Acceleration / overtaking will likewise be limited to ensure roads are 'safe'. Your car won't deviate from it's correct side of the road.
3) Self driving vehicles (SDV - is this a new acronym!) will need to 'speak' to one another and therefore it's logical to remove individual decision making (drivers) from the equation
4) For self driving to really work to the optimum non self driving cars will be removed from the road, firstly by subsidies for compliant vehicles, then by taxation of non compliant vehicles (NCV) followed by an outright ban of NCVs
Enjoy your driving while you can..... a decade from now the cars we so love and cherish will be but a memory ..... citizens of the Brave New World will be enslaving themselves to 'rent' an overpriced (but payable in affordable weekly instalments) PTD (Personal Transportation Device) one with about as much charisma of a washing machine.
I suspect your prophecy would be equally doom laden 10 years ago.Within a very short period of time - just a decade or so - we will all be forced to buy EVs (if buying new)
Because ICE cars will be 'obsolete' within this time frame the powers that be will, FOR CERTAIN, take the opportunity of legislating for compatibility / autonomy for all vehicles:
1) Performance will be limited by 'Big Brother'. If the speed limit is 30, your car will go no faster than 30 (ie gps limiters)
2) Acceleration / overtaking will likewise be limited to ensure roads are 'safe'. Your car won't deviate from it's correct side of the road.
3) Self driving vehicles (SDV - is this a new acronym!) will need to 'speak' to one another and therefore it's logical to remove individual decision making (drivers) from the equation
4) For self driving to really work to the optimum non self driving cars will be removed from the road, firstly by subsidies for compliant vehicles, then by taxation of non compliant vehicles (NCV) followed by an outright ban of NCVs
Enjoy your driving while you can..... a decade from now the cars we so love and cherish will be but a memory ..... citizens of the Brave New World will be enslaving themselves to 'rent' an overpriced (but payable in affordable weekly instalments) PTD (Personal Transportation Device) one with about as much charisma of a washing machine.
Its mainly nonsense, nobody is going to ban your invented "NCV's" from the road, would they also ban pedestrians, horse riders, animals, cyclists and motorcycles ? Autonomy can only work if it can cope with the world as it exists, as all the variables cannot be ironed out.
People "enslave themselves" now to drive something not that exiting, as frankly most people arent bothered and just want to transport people and stuff comfortably, safely and efficiently. The "Enslaving" is OPTIONAL, nobody will be forced to buy anything, like now.
ICE cars will largely die off, as generally they are inferior for the base purpose of moving people and stuff compared to an electric vehicle, or at least once the range and charging stuff gets sorted, otherwise its just car enthusiasts bleating about soul and aural stimulation. The bulk of the public just want to minimise the outgoings, and as such have bought diesels that sound like a dump truck but do 40 plus to the gallon, EV's batter even that figure and make little noise, win win for most.
The thing is with "Big Brother" is we dont live in a totalitarian state, it is a democracy, more or less and people have to vote for stuff, actually scratch that, they cant be trusted doing that....
ICE is already obsolete, its just what works and has been developed, its a crap idea compared to an electric motor for powering transport, it needs gears, burns oily substances, makes smoke and is over complex, just cos we like them doesnt make them the best option !
Daston said:
A thought I had the other day and really not sure how to word the subject.
OK imagine petrol cars are now banned (from being made) and all companies switch to electric. It seems getting performance from an EV is pretty equal when compared to a combustion engine so nearly all cars will be fast off the line (thinking of i3's here) and have a respectable top end etc.
So the question is why bother with a Sports car? What are the likes of Ferrari etc going to be able to come up to make their car any different to all the other EV's which have the motors in the same place and the battery along the floor.
Days gone by it would be the number of cylinders, how the engine made power (turbo or natural), the noise it made, where the engine was positioned etc etc. Now with battery packs being chucked in the floor to maximise space and all make bugger all noise is it really going to come down to just the way it looks? Is that even enough for the likes of use when you strip the rest of it away?
So where do you see it going? How will they stand out? Are we destined for a bland soulless car future?
I think looking at the RC car market answers this. Not all cars and electronics are equal. And they can and do perform differently. Plus the propulsion mechanism of a car is only one part of a much wider package. OK imagine petrol cars are now banned (from being made) and all companies switch to electric. It seems getting performance from an EV is pretty equal when compared to a combustion engine so nearly all cars will be fast off the line (thinking of i3's here) and have a respectable top end etc.
So the question is why bother with a Sports car? What are the likes of Ferrari etc going to be able to come up to make their car any different to all the other EV's which have the motors in the same place and the battery along the floor.
Days gone by it would be the number of cylinders, how the engine made power (turbo or natural), the noise it made, where the engine was positioned etc etc. Now with battery packs being chucked in the floor to maximise space and all make bugger all noise is it really going to come down to just the way it looks? Is that even enough for the likes of use when you strip the rest of it away?
So where do you see it going? How will they stand out? Are we destined for a bland soulless car future?
Ryan_T said:
Imagine thinking the only point of a sports car is outright speed.
Indeed, but if sound, lightness, power delivery and mechanical interwction is all taken out of the equation, what is left to differentiate a sports car? No electric car is going to be light, manual, great sounding for a while, if ever.
I've already said this elsewhere, but my concern is the availability of petrol for those of us wanting to keep our older cars going. If the majority cars are electric, and the demand for petrol drops dramatically, it won't be viable for the oil companies to continue to sell petrol. On top of that, 40% of car owners do not have access to their own parking space, so won't be able to charge their cars. Can you imagine all those cables running hundreds of yards along pavements? How long before they get stolen? It hasn't been thought through properly, and please don't start me on the co2 b
ks.
ks. J4CKO said:
alfaspecial said:
And in the Brave New World......
Within a very short period of time - just a decade or so - we will all be forced to buy EVs (if buying new)
Because ICE cars will be 'obsolete' within this time frame the powers that be will, FOR CERTAIN, take the opportunity of legislating for compatibility / autonomy for all vehicles:
1) Performance will be limited by 'Big Brother'. If the speed limit is 30, your car will go no faster than 30 (ie gps limiters)
2) Acceleration / overtaking will likewise be limited to ensure roads are 'safe'. Your car won't deviate from it's correct side of the road.
3) Self driving vehicles (SDV - is this a new acronym!) will need to 'speak' to one another and therefore it's logical to remove individual decision making (drivers) from the equation
4) For self driving to really work to the optimum non self driving cars will be removed from the road, firstly by subsidies for compliant vehicles, then by taxation of non compliant vehicles (NCV) followed by an outright ban of NCVs
Enjoy your driving while you can..... a decade from now the cars we so love and cherish will be but a memory ..... citizens of the Brave New World will be enslaving themselves to 'rent' an overpriced (but payable in affordable weekly instalments) PTD (Personal Transportation Device) one with about as much charisma of a washing machine.
I suspect your prophecy would be equally doom laden 10 years ago.Within a very short period of time - just a decade or so - we will all be forced to buy EVs (if buying new)
Because ICE cars will be 'obsolete' within this time frame the powers that be will, FOR CERTAIN, take the opportunity of legislating for compatibility / autonomy for all vehicles:
1) Performance will be limited by 'Big Brother'. If the speed limit is 30, your car will go no faster than 30 (ie gps limiters)
2) Acceleration / overtaking will likewise be limited to ensure roads are 'safe'. Your car won't deviate from it's correct side of the road.
3) Self driving vehicles (SDV - is this a new acronym!) will need to 'speak' to one another and therefore it's logical to remove individual decision making (drivers) from the equation
4) For self driving to really work to the optimum non self driving cars will be removed from the road, firstly by subsidies for compliant vehicles, then by taxation of non compliant vehicles (NCV) followed by an outright ban of NCVs
Enjoy your driving while you can..... a decade from now the cars we so love and cherish will be but a memory ..... citizens of the Brave New World will be enslaving themselves to 'rent' an overpriced (but payable in affordable weekly instalments) PTD (Personal Transportation Device) one with about as much charisma of a washing machine.
Its mainly nonsense, nobody is going to ban your invented "NCV's" from the road, would they also ban pedestrians, horse riders, animals, cyclists and motorcycles ? Autonomy can only work if it can cope with the world as it exists, as all the variables cannot be ironed out.
People "enslave themselves" now to drive something not that exiting, as frankly most people arent bothered and just want to transport people and stuff comfortably, safely and efficiently. The "Enslaving" is OPTIONAL, nobody will be forced to buy anything, like now.
ICE cars will largely die off, as generally they are inferior for the base purpose of moving people and stuff compared to an electric vehicle, or at least once the range and charging stuff gets sorted, otherwise its just car enthusiasts bleating about soul and aural stimulation. The bulk of the public just want to minimise the outgoings, and as such have bought diesels that sound like a dump truck but do 40 plus to the gallon, EV's batter even that figure and make little noise, win win for most.
The thing is with "Big Brother" is we dont live in a totalitarian state, it is a democracy, more or less and people have to vote for stuff, actually scratch that, they cant be trusted doing that....
ICE is already obsolete, its just what works and has been developed, its a crap idea compared to an electric motor for powering transport, it needs gears, burns oily substances, makes smoke and is over complex, just cos we like them doesnt make them the best option !
If someone had suggested just 10 years ago about our becoming a surveillance state by 2020 (like 1984) they would have been laughed at.
But........
The state can and does track your phone (and by implication you) 24/7
There was the murder case in Anglsey just this week where the murder was caught by the telemetry from his own car - not just where he had been but the exact times he opened and closed the boot
If 'we' are so unconcerned about being spied on (and it seems we are unconcerned) then society is willing to accept Enslavement provided we "just want to transport people and stuff comfortably, safely and efficiently"
At the risk of being accused of invoking Godwin's Law ..... in the 1930's, the German people, at the time one of the best educated and enlightened peoples in the World, were quite willing to vote AH into power...... and then vote to end elections and, by default, the very concept of 'democracy'
As I see it, the ICE car has had it's day. Because given all ICE vehicles are to be banned (new sales) from 2035 who in there right mind would buy one after say 2030? After that date surely (virtually) all new vehicles will be BEVs.
But before then, as a society, we must debate the future of personal transportation - at the moment the debate is hidden behind the vested interests of big corporations.
Suggestion: if we are going to get all virtually ICEs off the road in two decades perhaps we should go down the route of all vehicles being in public ownership (Total Recall - Johnny Cabs).
WonkeyDonkey said:
I thought the same until I had to sell mine last year.
Trouble is the car has really spoilt me, nothing else really interests me anymore.
Electric cars are only really good for straight line speed. Anything over 2 tons can ever really be called a sports car.
I'd say more like 1.2 tons, give or take. The key issue with EVs at the moment is the battery energy density, to get a certain range you need a similar mass of batteries with the size and overall mass of the car making little difference except at the extremes. This makes it difficult to make an EV sports car that is light and has the range for everyday use and longer journeys.Trouble is the car has really spoilt me, nothing else really interests me anymore.
Electric cars are only really good for straight line speed. Anything over 2 tons can ever really be called a sports car.
alfaspecial said:
"Big Brother" - the society in the book (1984) willingly accepted being spied on. Every room, in every house as well as every street had a 'telescreen', which was a television with a camera that was always on - so everyone 'could' be spied on.
If someone had suggested just 10 years ago about our becoming a surveillance state by 2020 (like 1984) they would have been laughed at.
But........
The state can and does track your phone (and by implication you) 24/7
There was the murder case in Anglsey just this week where the murder was caught by the telemetry from his own car - not just where he had been but the exact times he opened and closed the boot
If 'we' are so unconcerned about being spied on (and it seems we are unconcerned) then society is willing to accept Enslavement provided we "just want to transport people and stuff comfortably, safely and efficiently"
At the risk of being accused of invoking Godwin's Law ..... in the 1930's, the German people, at the time one of the best educated and enlightened peoples in the World, were quite willing to vote AH into power...... and then vote to end elections and, by default, the very concept of 'democracy'
As I see it, the ICE car has had it's day. Because given all ICE vehicles are to be banned (new sales) from 2035 who in there right mind would buy one after say 2030? After that date surely (virtually) all new vehicles will be BEVs.
But before then, as a society, we must debate the future of personal transportation - at the moment the debate is hidden behind the vested interests of big corporations.
Suggestion: if we are going to get all virtually ICEs off the road in two decades perhaps we should go down the route of all vehicles being in public ownership (Total Recall - Johnny Cabs).
This exactly. Look at the Manchester Bomber. They have his movements days before right up to the last second all videoed. If someone had suggested just 10 years ago about our becoming a surveillance state by 2020 (like 1984) they would have been laughed at.
But........
The state can and does track your phone (and by implication you) 24/7
There was the murder case in Anglsey just this week where the murder was caught by the telemetry from his own car - not just where he had been but the exact times he opened and closed the boot
If 'we' are so unconcerned about being spied on (and it seems we are unconcerned) then society is willing to accept Enslavement provided we "just want to transport people and stuff comfortably, safely and efficiently"
At the risk of being accused of invoking Godwin's Law ..... in the 1930's, the German people, at the time one of the best educated and enlightened peoples in the World, were quite willing to vote AH into power...... and then vote to end elections and, by default, the very concept of 'democracy'
As I see it, the ICE car has had it's day. Because given all ICE vehicles are to be banned (new sales) from 2035 who in there right mind would buy one after say 2030? After that date surely (virtually) all new vehicles will be BEVs.
But before then, as a society, we must debate the future of personal transportation - at the moment the debate is hidden behind the vested interests of big corporations.
Suggestion: if we are going to get all virtually ICEs off the road in two decades perhaps we should go down the route of all vehicles being in public ownership (Total Recall - Johnny Cabs).
Alexa records in the background the whole time. Has been used in a few cases in America.
World wide only 22 countries are considered true democracy. That number has decreased from 2018 so we are moving away from democracy.
Big brother is certainly here monitoring more and more will become common.
Every payment every movement soon to be every word monitored.
Edited by Aiminghigh123 on Thursday 27th February 19:59
MikeM6 said:
Ryan_T said:
Imagine thinking the only point of a sports car is outright speed.
Indeed, but if sound, lightness, power delivery and mechanical interwction is all taken out of the equation, what is left to differentiate a sports car? No electric car is going to be light, manual, great sounding for a while, if ever.
Krikkit said:
BigPox said:
That said I cant wait to get my hands on an electric motorcycle, which I think will suit electric drive a lot more than a car does.
Apart from the massive weight spoiling everything? Bikes are fun because they're light, for now a battery isn't anything of the sort!
Aiminghigh123 said:
alfaspecial said:
"Big Brother" - the society in the book (1984) willingly accepted being spied on. Every room, in every house as well as every street had a 'telescreen', which was a television with a camera that was always on - so everyone 'could' be spied on.
If someone had suggested just 10 years ago about our becoming a surveillance state by 2020 (like 1984) they would have been laughed at.
But........
The state can and does track your phone (and by implication you) 24/7
There was the murder case in Anglsey just this week where the murder was caught by the telemetry from his own car - not just where he had been but the exact times he opened and closed the boot
If 'we' are so unconcerned about being spied on (and it seems we are unconcerned) then society is willing to accept Enslavement provided we "just want to transport people and stuff comfortably, safely and efficiently"
At the risk of being accused of invoking Godwin's Law ..... in the 1930's, the German people, at the time one of the best educated and enlightened peoples in the World, were quite willing to vote AH into power...... and then vote to end elections and, by default, the very concept of 'democracy'
As I see it, the ICE car has had it's day. Because given all ICE vehicles are to be banned (new sales) from 2035 who in there right mind would buy one after say 2030? After that date surely (virtually) all new vehicles will be BEVs.
But before then, as a society, we must debate the future of personal transportation - at the moment the debate is hidden behind the vested interests of big corporations.
Suggestion: if we are going to get all virtually ICEs off the road in two decades perhaps we should go down the route of all vehicles being in public ownership (Total Recall - Johnny Cabs).
This exactly. Look at the Manchester Bomber. They have his movements days before right up to the last second all videoed. If someone had suggested just 10 years ago about our becoming a surveillance state by 2020 (like 1984) they would have been laughed at.
But........
The state can and does track your phone (and by implication you) 24/7
There was the murder case in Anglsey just this week where the murder was caught by the telemetry from his own car - not just where he had been but the exact times he opened and closed the boot
If 'we' are so unconcerned about being spied on (and it seems we are unconcerned) then society is willing to accept Enslavement provided we "just want to transport people and stuff comfortably, safely and efficiently"
At the risk of being accused of invoking Godwin's Law ..... in the 1930's, the German people, at the time one of the best educated and enlightened peoples in the World, were quite willing to vote AH into power...... and then vote to end elections and, by default, the very concept of 'democracy'
As I see it, the ICE car has had it's day. Because given all ICE vehicles are to be banned (new sales) from 2035 who in there right mind would buy one after say 2030? After that date surely (virtually) all new vehicles will be BEVs.
But before then, as a society, we must debate the future of personal transportation - at the moment the debate is hidden behind the vested interests of big corporations.
Suggestion: if we are going to get all virtually ICEs off the road in two decades perhaps we should go down the route of all vehicles being in public ownership (Total Recall - Johnny Cabs).
Alexa records in the background the whole time. Has been used in a few cases in America.
World wide only 22 countries are considered true democracy. That number has decreased from 2018 so we are moving away from democracy.
Big brother is certainly here monitoring more and more will become common.
Every payment every movement soon to be every word monitored.
Edited by Aiminghigh123 on Thursday 27th February 19:59
Re: Democracy and Voting... if you could make a difference with YOUR vote, they would've banned it already. It's not your vote, is what they want you to vote
"The best way to enslave a man is to make him believe that he is already free"
To the topic..... I really hope this EV thing comes later... I'm only 27 ffs...
Daston said:
A thought I had the other day and really not sure how to word the subject.
OK imagine petrol cars are now banned (from being made) and all companies switch to electric. It seems getting performance from an EV is pretty equal when compared to a combustion engine so nearly all cars will be fast off the line (thinking of i3's here) and have a respectable top end etc.
So the question is why bother with a Sports car? What are the likes of Ferrari etc going to be able to come up to make their car any different to all the other EV's which have the motors in the same place and the battery along the floor.
Days gone by it would be the number of cylinders, how the engine made power (turbo or natural), the noise it made, where the engine was positioned etc etc. Now with battery packs being chucked in the floor to maximise space and all make bugger all noise is it really going to come down to just the way it looks? Is that even enough for the likes of use when you strip the rest of it away?
So where do you see it going? How will they stand out? Are we destined for a bland soulless car future?
Well it certainly sounds like you are destined for a bland soulless car. OK imagine petrol cars are now banned (from being made) and all companies switch to electric. It seems getting performance from an EV is pretty equal when compared to a combustion engine so nearly all cars will be fast off the line (thinking of i3's here) and have a respectable top end etc.
So the question is why bother with a Sports car? What are the likes of Ferrari etc going to be able to come up to make their car any different to all the other EV's which have the motors in the same place and the battery along the floor.
Days gone by it would be the number of cylinders, how the engine made power (turbo or natural), the noise it made, where the engine was positioned etc etc. Now with battery packs being chucked in the floor to maximise space and all make bugger all noise is it really going to come down to just the way it looks? Is that even enough for the likes of use when you strip the rest of it away?
So where do you see it going? How will they stand out? Are we destined for a bland soulless car future?
Are you on the right forum? Do you even know what a sports car is, because it looks like you've never driven one!
I thought i3s were limited to 93 mph - that's not exactly "sports car" territory for a respectable top end in Germany or the Isle of Man!
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