RE: How Britain made the Clio 182 Trophy
Discussion
uncleluck said:
Mine is a 53 plate with 131k and inside the rear arches look like new. I bought it nearly 10 years ago though and it’s still on it’s original paint (I paid a lot at the time) and the bloke I bought it from was proper anal about them wanting a mint original when he bought it. It’s still completely standard too (which is the best way for these cars) exhausts and filters just make a grown man look like a burk with 170bhp under the hood!
I put off looking for rust as I’d hear people say it’ll be rotten inside but honestly mine looks mint in the arches from inside. Not even a hint of rust. I do think a lot of rust is down to previous paintwork, the galvanising on these is obviously just on the surface so once they’ve been sanded rust has free rein. It’s a bit like the old 205 Gti’s I had 25 years ago, you’d get rusty ones that’d been damaged yet my dentist had one from new for years (he might even still have it) and it was always mint as it was original.
Not saying it’s gospel but surely if they all rust mine would be rusty. It’s done high mileage and been abused as far as cleaning goes. Gets used all weathers and I’ve probably cleaned it 2 or 3 times in the last 3 years!
The issue is the fuel filler neck and that rear arch lip retaining muck and grime which starts to cause the rust I believe. Generally the cars are very good and don't rust but a few of them have started to show signs and mostly on that side of the car. I put off looking for rust as I’d hear people say it’ll be rotten inside but honestly mine looks mint in the arches from inside. Not even a hint of rust. I do think a lot of rust is down to previous paintwork, the galvanising on these is obviously just on the surface so once they’ve been sanded rust has free rein. It’s a bit like the old 205 Gti’s I had 25 years ago, you’d get rusty ones that’d been damaged yet my dentist had one from new for years (he might even still have it) and it was always mint as it was original.
Not saying it’s gospel but surely if they all rust mine would be rusty. It’s done high mileage and been abused as far as cleaning goes. Gets used all weathers and I’ve probably cleaned it 2 or 3 times in the last 3 years!
Have you closely inspected your fuel filler area recently?
Dollars to doughnuts I bet there is some rust starting around the hinge that holds the flap in place....
Is this rot bad when compared to say some jap or german cars of the same era? Not in the slightest but owners and prospective buyers do need to be aware of it being a minor issue and taking steps to collar it in good time.
heisthegaffer said:
I had a 205GTi in my garage which needed a few bits doing to it.
As soon as I got my 182 I realised how old and rattly the 205 was so flogged it within weeks.
Yes, this is what I always say to my mate’s the reminisce about 205’s and how they wish they’d kept them because of the ‘value’. As soon as I got my 182 I realised how old and rattly the 205 was so flogged it within weeks.
The 172/182 is a much better car and will be just as classic, put your money where your mouth is and get a lovely 172/182 and keep it years like you wish you’d done with the 205.
Don’t get me wrong, I loved my 205’s but even back when they were relatively new they weren’t the best engines. My fav thing was the way the 1.9 used to tickle along feeling really nippy at tiny throttle inputs, where it lacked was being 8v it didn’t rev so it was a bit of an anticlimax when you floored it. The clio has that same tickle along light throttle but it actually has grunt higher up the revs and a notable pull.
If you wish you still had a 205, get a clio.
uncleluck said:
heisthegaffer said:
As soon as I got my 182 I realised how old and rattly the 205 was so flogged it within weeks.
The 172/182 is a much better car and will be just as classic, put your money where your mouth is and get a lovely 172/182 and keep it years like you wish you’d done with the 205.
of course the newer 182 was/is 'better' than the 205. isn't a Golf R 'better' than a Clio?
how much is objective, how much subjective to our formative years?
fwiw, i'd agree that the 182 is best of 205 or modern golf. but then i'm biased too.
No I mean they’re better cars comparing them when newer. My memory of the 205 is from when they were younger (last one I had was 22 years ago, first 24 years ago)
I’m not comparing an old 205 today just my feeling of when I had mine. The 1*2 is more reliable (doesn’t have the stupid wet liner engine) quicker and handles just as fine. Only thing I’d say about the 205 is the steering on/off power feels a bit more lively.
I’m not comparing an old 205 today just my feeling of when I had mine. The 1*2 is more reliable (doesn’t have the stupid wet liner engine) quicker and handles just as fine. Only thing I’d say about the 205 is the steering on/off power feels a bit more lively.
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