RE: TVR Cerbera 4.0 | The Brave Pill

RE: TVR Cerbera 4.0 | The Brave Pill

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so called

7,510 posts

163 months

Wednesday 18th March
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Blown2CV said:
Like any classic car, unmolested examples are the ones people want, after a certain point in time.
Not like this one then. smile







env

162 posts

144 months

Wednesday 18th March
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Interesting points about “old owners not being new ones” - I have an old one as I grew up reading Top Gear at school so bought one when I could. I am certainly in the market for the new one but as it stands will probably end up going the new e type route as buying the new TVR is not an option currently!

swisstoni

8,959 posts

233 months

Wednesday 18th March
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env said:
Interesting points about “old owners not being new ones” - I have an old one as I grew up reading Top Gear at school so bought one when I could. I am certainly in the market for the new one but as it stands will probably end up going the new e type route as buying the new TVR is not an option currently!
There’s a new E Type?

Blown2CV

23,504 posts

157 months

Wednesday 18th March
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so called said:
Blown2CV said:
Like any classic car, unmolested examples are the ones people want, after a certain point in time.
Not like this one then. smile






I'm not saying they don't exist, but i am saying that finding a buyer for heavily customised cars like these might be more of a challenge than the seller would hope.

env

162 posts

144 months

Wednesday 18th March
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swisstoni said:
There’s a new E Type?
F! I was too excited.

canucklehead

386 posts

100 months

Wednesday 18th March
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Andy665 said:
The Speed Six engine only has two weak points that are easily rectified

A very small number of car have Indian manufactured conrods that stretch over time

Variable quality finger followers that break down over time

Most TVR specialists are more than capable of making the Speed Six engine as reliable as any other
Stretchy conrods possibly not the best thing to have in an engine.

swisstoni

8,959 posts

233 months

Thursday 19th March
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env said:
swisstoni said:
There’s a new E Type?
F! I was too excited.
Thought I’d missed a news story. hehe

Byker28i

24,260 posts

171 months

Thursday 19th March
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WhyTwo said:
Byker28i said:
The aircon at best is like a mouse farting in anything less than 20C, you just open the windows. As for the heatsoak, you need to decat them to get the heat away from the tunnel - at least on the V8 engines.
I sat in traffic for at least 1/2 hour trying to get out of the Great British Welcome at Le Mans 3 or 4 years ago. It was a scorching hot day. The first time I can remember having the windows up. The air con worked fine, OK it's not like in a brand new BMW, but then again nothing about the car is in anyway like a brand new BMW! (2004 4.2 AJP, not decatted)
I've worked hard on mine to fix all leaks, get it working as best as possible. In a uk summer - 24-26C it's ok, on the continent at 30-40C it's not.

Byker28i

24,260 posts

171 months

Thursday 19th March
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swisstoni said:
env said:
swisstoni said:
There’s a new E Type?
F! I was too excited.
Thought I’d missed a news story. hehe
The Eagle? but you'd need big pockets

so called

7,510 posts

163 months

Thursday 19th March
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Blown2CV said:
I'm not saying they don't exist, but i am saying that finding a buyer for heavily customised cars like these might be more of a challenge than the seller would hope.
Totally agree with you.
The example I posted was rather extreme as the owner had widened the car by about 6 inches.

CanoeSniffer

747 posts

41 months

Friday 20th March
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Picked mine up yesterday. No good pics yet but it’s much easier on the eye than the pill car (I think!), with a Str8Six rebuild.

Byker28i

24,260 posts

171 months

Friday 20th March
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Ohh hello what did you get?

R400TVR

390 posts

116 months

Friday 20th March
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unsprung said:
bless

Your question, of course, can be only rhetorical -- as the LS3 just might be the world's most favourite V8 swap. And a good number of TVR owners are part of the LS series story.

LS3 has aluminium block and heads. Low mass, high output. Runs seemingly for decades. The whole thing is smaller and/or lighter than many engines of less displacement.

If cars like the Cerb would have done what they said on the tin, a culture of engine swaps, not to mention a conga line of skint former keepers, wouldn't have become "a thing."

Bless
Your reply, of course, wasn't intended to make you sound like a patronising arse.
The ls3 is a fine engine, but it's still far heavier than the ajpv8, doesn't rev as fast, and is relatively underpowered for it's displacement.
Yes swaps are a thing, but none of them keep the same character. They may be more reliable, but that's not what my point was about.

KarlMac

3,109 posts

95 months

Friday 20th March
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A friend had an identical one with the 4.5 V8 and it was genuinely ruinous and tried to kill him once.

Not worth the hassle if you ask me. Should have got a Chim instead lol.

TVRBRZ

13 posts

43 months

Friday 20th March
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KarlMac said:
A friend had an identical one with the 4.5 V8 and it was genuinely ruinous and tried to kill him once.

Not worth the hassle if you ask me. Should have got a Chim instead lol.
If it was a 4.5 then it was NOT identical. The 4.0 has a slower steering rack and a setup more suited to touring. I found the v8 steering too sharp for me, so therefore felt that my own limitations as a driver were the deciding reasons to want a Sp6.

My BRZ was always trying to kill me....no wait, that is because it has no torque and the devil in it makes me drive at 10/10ths because it is a possessed thing and nothing to do with me not having the self discipline to slow down, ever.


KarlMac

3,109 posts

95 months

Friday 20th March
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TVRBRZ said:
KarlMac said:
A friend had an identical one with the 4.5 V8 and it was genuinely ruinous and tried to kill him once.

Not worth the hassle if you ask me. Should have got a Chim instead lol.
If it was a 4.5 then it was NOT identical. The 4.0 has a slower steering rack and a setup more suited to touring. I found the v8 steering too sharp for me, so therefore felt that my own limitations as a driver were the deciding reasons to want a Sp6.

My BRZ was always trying to kill me....no wait, that is because it has no torque and the devil in it makes me drive at 10/10ths because it is a possessed thing and nothing to do with me not having the self discipline to slow down, ever.
It didn't try to kill him because of the drive, it fell to bits on the motorway laugh

TVRBRZ

13 posts

43 months

Friday 20th March
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OK, I'm biting. More info needed:

Define "fell to bits"? Suspension, brakes, rear diff, chassis member? How old was the car? Bit more info otherwise it is anecdotal and I've already had my IMHO on people's opinions who aren't actual owners earlier in the thread.

My Chim's indicator and handbrake button both fell off, but I fixed them with araldite. A certain "fell to bits" is to be expected and not out of the ordinary.

Brakes, suspension and chassis can all fail catastrophically on anything 20+ years old, so I'd be interested if it were a potentially fatal flaw when the car was still quite young....

Blown2CV

23,504 posts

157 months

Friday 20th March
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everyone who has owned a TVR has a "it tried to kill me" story, however mine did actually try... twice