RE: Legacy | Audi Allroad 4.2 meets A6 Allroad 45
Discussion
That the Allroad was such an unispiring thing to drive probably helped ensure this format DIDN'T take off!
I once borrowed a 2.7tdi Manual with high expectations based on interior/exterior design, but what a pig to actually use - comically narrow 2-stroke like powerband demanded constant gearchanges to keep it moving and then the racket it made put you off anyway. Shockingly poor body control, excessive understeer and rubbery steering ensured it didn't like corners either. The Gen1 BMW X5 V8 I'd borrowed previously was dynamically superior for making progress in pretty much every measure - and set a far higher standard for an enjoyable family-friendly driver's car.
I once borrowed a 2.7tdi Manual with high expectations based on interior/exterior design, but what a pig to actually use - comically narrow 2-stroke like powerband demanded constant gearchanges to keep it moving and then the racket it made put you off anyway. Shockingly poor body control, excessive understeer and rubbery steering ensured it didn't like corners either. The Gen1 BMW X5 V8 I'd borrowed previously was dynamically superior for making progress in pretty much every measure - and set a far higher standard for an enjoyable family-friendly driver's car.
Everyone knows there are steel spring conversion kits for these, ditching the air suspension, right?
The lairy interiors of the Allroad were always strange (even when new). The base ones had cloth!
I almost bought one back in 2006, but the dealer sold it between me testing driving it & a trade in offer on our existing car. Audi Crawley; I never returned, buying a Touareg instead. That came with its issues too.
The lairy interiors of the Allroad were always strange (even when new). The base ones had cloth!
I almost bought one back in 2006, but the dealer sold it between me testing driving it & a trade in offer on our existing car. Audi Crawley; I never returned, buying a Touareg instead. That came with its issues too.
Interesting, I have been thinking about one of these for quite a while but cant really find one for the right money.
I really fancy the 2.7tt manual allroad, so quite disappointed to read people saying how awful the engine is? I had thought it was a detuned s4 lump? Which as far as I know is regarded as reasonably reliable ?? I know the auto boxes are questionable, the air suspension fragile and I'm assuming the usual door lock/window regulator/instrument cluster issues associated with this vintage vag stuff but what else goes wrong?
I really fancy the 2.7tt manual allroad, so quite disappointed to read people saying how awful the engine is? I had thought it was a detuned s4 lump? Which as far as I know is regarded as reasonably reliable ?? I know the auto boxes are questionable, the air suspension fragile and I'm assuming the usual door lock/window regulator/instrument cluster issues associated with this vintage vag stuff but what else goes wrong?
Wills2 said:
I had a C6 2.7TDi allroad back in 2006, I really liked it got a cracking lease IIRC it was £270 a month 3+23.
I had a C6 3.0TDi, such a competent car.They sorted most of the C5 issues, the air suspension is not an issue in the C6, for example.
Comfortable, the engine felt strong, and it was probably the only car I’ve had that bettered it’s official mpg figure. I’m sure the claimed figure was 34mpg, I used to get well over that, even while towing. I may well have another one some day.
Mine went from 110k to 150k in a little under two years, I think I only replaced front roll bar bushes in that time. The only downside was it was quite an early 2nd gen one from early 2006, but the wrong side of the nasty tax rate, so was over £400 per year.
Thoroughly like my 272hp C7 AllRoad Sport
Metallic Brown, cream leather and Pano Roof.
Apex’s heavily with internets, self parking and other toys bygg BVG the original owner
I see it as my last ICE car that works great for me in a North Yorkshire hillside Village with its AllSeason tyres.
Great all in one car, and manages - just- 45mpg on a run.
ETA, only thing wrong with the car / spec is the stupid 20inch wheels.
Metallic Brown, cream leather and Pano Roof.
Apex’s heavily with internets, self parking and other toys bygg BVG the original owner
I see it as my last ICE car that works great for me in a North Yorkshire hillside Village with its AllSeason tyres.
Great all in one car, and manages - just- 45mpg on a run.
ETA, only thing wrong with the car / spec is the stupid 20inch wheels.
Edited by PushedDover on Thursday 19th March 11:36
Dimski said:
Wills2 said:
I had a C6 2.7TDi allroad back in 2006, I really liked it got a cracking lease IIRC it was £270 a month 3+23.
I had a C6 3.0TDi, such a competent car.They sorted most of the C5 issues, the air suspension is not an issue in the C6, for example.
Comfortable, the engine felt strong, and it was probably the only car I’ve had that bettered it’s official mpg figure. I’m sure the claimed figure was 34mpg, I used to get well over that, even while towing. I may well have another one some day.
Mine went from 110k to 150k in a little under two years, I think I only replaced front roll bar bushes in that time. The only downside was it was quite an early 2nd gen one from early 2006, but the wrong side of the nasty tax rate, so was over £400 per year.
Arese1973 said:
Outback would wipe the floor with these. Only those who are none the wiser or those who prefer 'prestige' whatever that is would prefer the Audi. Objectively I think the Subaru would be the better machine. Vulgar, ubiquitous machines, wear four rings nowadays.
Problem now is that Subaru's are just cheap, generic and pretty rubbish with coarse, dared engines that are neither that powerful or economical, their interiors are a bit crap. When I lived in the UK they were really something quirky and anti-class but now I'm in Australia and they're absolutely everywhere they just seem a bit meh.
hi court said:
Interesting, I have been thinking about one of these for quite a while but cant really find one for the right money.
I really fancy the 2.7tt manual allroad, so quite disappointed to read people saying how awful the engine is? I had thought it was a detuned s4 lump? Which as far as I know is regarded as reasonably reliable ?? I know the auto boxes are questionable, the air suspension fragile and I'm assuming the usual door lock/window regulator/instrument cluster issues associated with this vintage vag stuff but what else goes wrong?
The 2.7tt is basically the S4 engine. It's the latest version of the 2.7tt and some of the emissions stuff is different.I really fancy the 2.7tt manual allroad, so quite disappointed to read people saying how awful the engine is? I had thought it was a detuned s4 lump? Which as far as I know is regarded as reasonably reliable ?? I know the auto boxes are questionable, the air suspension fragile and I'm assuming the usual door lock/window regulator/instrument cluster issues associated with this vintage vag stuff but what else goes wrong?
Had 2 S4s and an RS4 all 2.7tt and no real surprises.
1. Folklore says that the turbos are prone to failure. Only if boost leaks are not noticed. Use a specialist. I never had any issues.
2. There are a whole load of hoses and piping in the centre of the V under the inlet manifold including a plastic bodied electric water pump. These all get brittle with age. Butdet a grand to replace. Both of my S4s needed this.
3. Cambelt is a pain to get to to change. £800.
If you use a specialist who knows the 2.7tt you'll be fine.
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