RE: Legacy | Audi Allroad 4.2 meets A6 Allroad 45

RE: Legacy | Audi Allroad 4.2 meets A6 Allroad 45

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carinaman

16,825 posts

138 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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I like the C5 Avant shape lots. Thanks for the ownership experience posts.

anonymous-user

20 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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shalmaneser said:


This couldn't be any more early noughties.

Green leather audi interior with wood. Nice.
Mint chocolate flavour.

PRN2K

14 posts

81 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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That the Allroad was such an unispiring thing to drive probably helped ensure this format DIDN'T take off!
I once borrowed a 2.7tdi Manual with high expectations based on interior/exterior design, but what a pig to actually use - comically narrow 2-stroke like powerband demanded constant gearchanges to keep it moving and then the racket it made put you off anyway. Shockingly poor body control, excessive understeer and rubbery steering ensured it didn't like corners either. The Gen1 BMW X5 V8 I'd borrowed previously was dynamically superior for making progress in pretty much every measure - and set a far higher standard for an enjoyable family-friendly driver's car.

BFleming

2,903 posts

109 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Everyone knows there are steel spring conversion kits for these, ditching the air suspension, right?

The lairy interiors of the Allroad were always strange (even when new). The base ones had cloth!
I almost bought one back in 2006, but the dealer sold it between me testing driving it & a trade in offer on our existing car. Audi Crawley; I never returned, buying a Touareg instead. That came with its issues too.

ChezzaV8

91 posts

128 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Anyone who actually needed a do it all type car back then just bought a Subaru....

....although not anymore, modern Subaru's are dreadful!

Wills2

17,989 posts

141 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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I had a C6 2.7TDi allroad back in 2006, I really liked it got a cracking lease IIRC it was £270 a month 3+23.


Wadeski

6,922 posts

179 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Really, Subaru cornered in the market on these things with the Outback. At least here in the US. They are incredibly popular and fill the niche that Volvo wagons used to with upper middle class moms.

Arese1973

51 posts

52 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Outback would wipe the floor with these. Only those who are none the wiser or those who prefer 'prestige' whatever that is would prefer the Audi. Objectively I think the Subaru would be the better machine. Vulgar, ubiquitous machines, wear four rings nowadays.

maestronakagata

50 posts

110 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Unfortunately this article doesn't include the C6 version, especially in V8 guise. But then I'm biased...

Hub

5,375 posts

164 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Did the original only come in that greyish green colour? I don't remember seeing any other colours!

hi court

158 posts

162 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Interesting, I have been thinking about one of these for quite a while but cant really find one for the right money.

I really fancy the 2.7tt manual allroad, so quite disappointed to read people saying how awful the engine is? I had thought it was a detuned s4 lump? Which as far as I know is regarded as reasonably reliable ?? I know the auto boxes are questionable, the air suspension fragile and I'm assuming the usual door lock/window regulator/instrument cluster issues associated with this vintage vag stuff but what else goes wrong?

Schermerhorn

4,045 posts

155 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Weren't these originally designed for vets who did a lot of country visits?

W00DY

13,593 posts

192 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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shalmaneser said:


This couldn't be any more early noughties.

Green leather audi interior with wood. Nice.
Very inviting, especially when compared to the rather cold current design.

Dimski

2,085 posts

165 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Wills2 said:
I had a C6 2.7TDi allroad back in 2006, I really liked it got a cracking lease IIRC it was £270 a month 3+23.

I had a C6 3.0TDi, such a competent car.

They sorted most of the C5 issues, the air suspension is not an issue in the C6, for example.

Comfortable, the engine felt strong, and it was probably the only car I’ve had that bettered it’s official mpg figure. I’m sure the claimed figure was 34mpg, I used to get well over that, even while towing. I may well have another one some day.

Mine went from 110k to 150k in a little under two years, I think I only replaced front roll bar bushes in that time. The only downside was it was quite an early 2nd gen one from early 2006, but the wrong side of the nasty tax rate, so was over £400 per year.

PushedDover

3,416 posts

19 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Thoroughly like my 272hp C7 AllRoad Sport
Metallic Brown, cream leather and Pano Roof.
Apex’s heavily with internets, self parking and other toys bygg BVG the original owner

I see it as my last ICE car that works great for me in a North Yorkshire hillside Village with its AllSeason tyres.

Great all in one car, and manages - just- 45mpg on a run.

ETA, only thing wrong with the car / spec is the stupid 20inch wheels.

Edited by PushedDover on Thursday 19th March 11:36

BFleming

2,903 posts

109 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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Hub said:
Did the original only come in that greyish green colour? I don't remember seeing any other colours!
Silver, Grey, Black, Green (as this one is).

Here's the cloth interior I referred to earlier...

Wills2

17,989 posts

141 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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Dimski said:
Wills2 said:
I had a C6 2.7TDi allroad back in 2006, I really liked it got a cracking lease IIRC it was £270 a month 3+23.

I had a C6 3.0TDi, such a competent car.

They sorted most of the C5 issues, the air suspension is not an issue in the C6, for example.

Comfortable, the engine felt strong, and it was probably the only car I’ve had that bettered it’s official mpg figure. I’m sure the claimed figure was 34mpg, I used to get well over that, even while towing. I may well have another one some day.

Mine went from 110k to 150k in a little under two years, I think I only replaced front roll bar bushes in that time. The only downside was it was quite an early 2nd gen one from early 2006, but the wrong side of the nasty tax rate, so was over £400 per year.
Yes on the air suspension and 17" wheels it would blast up a potholed road, the 2.7 did lack a bit of power but was very smooth for diesel, thankfully the VED was in the lease cost.



jon_273

87 posts

53 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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You could get then with Recaro seats too (at least on the continent). Must be quite rare:


Pommy

11,790 posts

182 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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Arese1973 said:
Outback would wipe the floor with these. Only those who are none the wiser or those who prefer 'prestige' whatever that is would prefer the Audi. Objectively I think the Subaru would be the better machine. Vulgar, ubiquitous machines, wear four rings nowadays.
Problem now is that Subaru's are just cheap, generic and pretty rubbish with coarse, dared engines that are neither that powerful or economical, their interiors are a bit crap.

When I lived in the UK they were really something quirky and anti-class but now I'm in Australia and they're absolutely everywhere they just seem a bit meh.

Searider

905 posts

221 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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hi court said:
Interesting, I have been thinking about one of these for quite a while but cant really find one for the right money.

I really fancy the 2.7tt manual allroad, so quite disappointed to read people saying how awful the engine is? I had thought it was a detuned s4 lump? Which as far as I know is regarded as reasonably reliable ?? I know the auto boxes are questionable, the air suspension fragile and I'm assuming the usual door lock/window regulator/instrument cluster issues associated with this vintage vag stuff but what else goes wrong?
The 2.7tt is basically the S4 engine. It's the latest version of the 2.7tt and some of the emissions stuff is different.
Had 2 S4s and an RS4 all 2.7tt and no real surprises.

1. Folklore says that the turbos are prone to failure. Only if boost leaks are not noticed. Use a specialist. I never had any issues.
2. There are a whole load of hoses and piping in the centre of the V under the inlet manifold including a plastic bodied electric water pump. These all get brittle with age. Butdet a grand to replace. Both of my S4s needed this.
3. Cambelt is a pain to get to to change. £800.

If you use a specialist who knows the 2.7tt you'll be fine.