RE: Legacy | Audi Allroad 4.2 meets A6 Allroad 45
Discussion
I had a 2.7TT.
I replaced the front airbags, which wasn't too difficult, so when a rear one went, I thought I'll just fit a new one.
It was easily the most difficult job I've ever done - I'd do three heater matrices rather than do one of them again.
Of course you can go to steel springs, but that does defeat the purpose.
Admittedly it was unstoppable in the hard winters of 2009 and 2010, but then I sold it to a Lithuanian on ebay and ran a mile.
Bought a Forester 2.5XT - it was actually less reliable and after it blew a head gasket I just went SUV and bought a Land Cruiser.
I replaced the front airbags, which wasn't too difficult, so when a rear one went, I thought I'll just fit a new one.
It was easily the most difficult job I've ever done - I'd do three heater matrices rather than do one of them again.
Of course you can go to steel springs, but that does defeat the purpose.
Admittedly it was unstoppable in the hard winters of 2009 and 2010, but then I sold it to a Lithuanian on ebay and ran a mile.
Bought a Forester 2.5XT - it was actually less reliable and after it blew a head gasket I just went SUV and bought a Land Cruiser.
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Not sure about the C5 but the C6 Allroad I run (2009) i've had for many years & 106k & nothing has broken or proven unreliable - indeed its the most reliable car i've owned in 3.0tdi flavour & cheapest Audi i've run although i appreciate if it does break it will hurt.
Even the suspension which concerned me originally has behaved itself over 11 years and 100k & i use it on all settings most of the time rather than leave it in Auto. Seems the most practical solution for occassional offroad work compared to an SUV & a 'normal' road car the rest (most) of the time.


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Not sure about the C5 but the C6 Allroad I run (2009) i've had for many years & 106k & nothing has broken or proven unreliable - indeed its the most reliable car i've owned in 3.0tdi flavour & cheapest Audi i've run although i appreciate if it does break it will hurt.
Even the suspension which concerned me originally has behaved itself over 11 years and 100k & i use it on all settings most of the time rather than leave it in Auto. Seems the most practical solution for occassional offroad work compared to an SUV & a 'normal' road car the rest (most) of the time.
Genuine Barn Find said:
ran a C5 2.7T, a 2.5 and currently own a C6 3.0....
super cars and my C6 is probably the best all-round vehicle i’ve owned. i’ll move to a C7 414 BHP when the C6 dies, but i don’t think that will be anytime soon. only downside is the tax.
I looked at the 414hp C7 version when I got out of the last 215hp C7 AllRoad I had..... very tempting, but thought the running costs (bork versus the fuel) and the consumable with those big discs and boots etc defeated the object of a good all rounder. super cars and my C6 is probably the best all-round vehicle i’ve owned. i’ll move to a C7 414 BHP when the C6 dies, but i don’t think that will be anytime soon. only downside is the tax.
The compromise was the 275hp I have.
i'm a bit surprised by the comments about the 2.7TT engine.
I own an A6 2.7TT with the manual gearbox (not an allroad, but aside from the suspension and some plastic panel - the same car).
I've owned it for 10 years, and 130k+ miles (its now just hit 226,000 miles)
Whilst it clearly has required TLC as things wore out, replacing hoses, brakes, cambelts ec etc, it has by and large been a very reliable car...
Possibly because I have a VW specialist who looks after it (who used to own their own B5 S4), or because it is maintained "as if had bought it new", as opposed on a shoestring, but by and large its been a very good car, and done everything I've asked it to do/thrown at it.
Edited - to correct the word "cams" to cambelts. I've not had to replace the camshafts! (its not an RV8)
I own an A6 2.7TT with the manual gearbox (not an allroad, but aside from the suspension and some plastic panel - the same car).
I've owned it for 10 years, and 130k+ miles (its now just hit 226,000 miles)
Whilst it clearly has required TLC as things wore out, replacing hoses, brakes, cambelts ec etc, it has by and large been a very reliable car...
Possibly because I have a VW specialist who looks after it (who used to own their own B5 S4), or because it is maintained "as if had bought it new", as opposed on a shoestring, but by and large its been a very good car, and done everything I've asked it to do/thrown at it.
Edited - to correct the word "cams" to cambelts. I've not had to replace the camshafts! (its not an RV8)
Edited by HiAsAKite on Tuesday 24th March 08:46
HiAsAKite said:
i'm a bit surprised by the comments about the 2.7TT engine.
I own an A6 2.7TT with the manual gearbox (not an allroad, but aside from the suspension and some plastic panel - the same car).
I've owned it for 10 years, and 130k+ miles (its now just hit 226,000 miles)
Whilst it clearly has required TLC as things wore out, replacing hoses, brakes, cams ec etc, it has by and large been a very reliable car...
Possibly because I have a VW specialist who looks after it (who used to own their own B5 S4), or because it is maintained "as if had bought it new", as opposed on a shoestring, but by and large its been a very good car, and done everything I've asked it to do/thrown at it.
Did I read this right, you had to replace camshafts on a modern car because they wore out?I own an A6 2.7TT with the manual gearbox (not an allroad, but aside from the suspension and some plastic panel - the same car).
I've owned it for 10 years, and 130k+ miles (its now just hit 226,000 miles)
Whilst it clearly has required TLC as things wore out, replacing hoses, brakes, cams ec etc, it has by and large been a very reliable car...
Possibly because I have a VW specialist who looks after it (who used to own their own B5 S4), or because it is maintained "as if had bought it new", as opposed on a shoestring, but by and large its been a very good car, and done everything I've asked it to do/thrown at it.
I can remember seeing the first gen Allroad at the 2000 Motor Show at the NEC and, as refered to further upstream in the thread, this one had a very green interior. A few years ago I did contemplate buying a second-hand one but backed down on the idea after a bit of reading around. Horror stories about the air suspension going pop and costing £500 a corner to put right were not encouraging.
My current shed is a 2007 Allroad with the 3.0 V6 TDI. It's got 152k miles on it but genuinely feels like half that. Its comfy on a cruise and when I'm on site it's fantastic. Let's me get places our site staff claim they need L200's / Navarras to get too. Also looks at home at the office carpark in-between the newer pcp'd cars.
I love it and will probably swap it for a facelift petrol V8 soon.
I love it and will probably swap it for a facelift petrol V8 soon.
I love a rufty tufty estate - had a 2005 3.0 Outback previously and recently changed to a 2014 XC70 (you see loads of the latter round my way). The things that steered me away from the Allroad are, funnily enough, the fancy suspension which I just don't need, and the fact that most later ones come with phat rimz that aren't really suitable for the rough shooting tracks I regularly drive on. I may well have one in future though - would have to be the bitdi.
I really don't understand the hate for these cars?!?!
I have a C5 6spd Manual 2.5TDI V6, remapped to 220bhp. It's on 205,000 miles and runs like an dream. So smooth, powerful, and comfortable. Plenty of room in the boot for our camping holidays and two dogs. I have the half leather and Alcantara heated Recaro seats in mine, which make it a really nice place to be. The build quality of this generation is remarkable. Nothing rattles. It's all very solid.
I replaced the rear shock with a used OEM one from eBay for £30 (which came with the airbag!). Easy job, not sure why another forum member said it was one of the most difficult jobs they'd done? Took me about 1.5 hours?
I rebuilt the compressor with a £20 kit from an engineer in Scotland (BagPipingAndy). All corners lift and drop perfectly. That's usually the cause of the air system issues, a worn out compressor piston ring. The airbags on the rear are original, and the fronts I upgraded to Arnott USA, which I pulled off an allroad that was being scrapped.
I've had the cambelt, thermostat, water pump, idler pulley and aux belt changed. Good for another 8 years/80,000 miles.
The only thing currently wrong with mine is the remote central locking doesn't work. I've put that down to a dodgy loom in the rear door which I have ordered, used on eBay.
I've taken it off road, been though a very deep river crossings, kept up with Defenders and Discoveries whilst green laning, towed trailers and caravans with it; It's a faultless beast and supremely comfortable whilst doing everything I've thrown at it.
Best of all I paid £550 for it. The Pioneer Android Auto head unit that came with it is worth more than that!
I have a C5 6spd Manual 2.5TDI V6, remapped to 220bhp. It's on 205,000 miles and runs like an dream. So smooth, powerful, and comfortable. Plenty of room in the boot for our camping holidays and two dogs. I have the half leather and Alcantara heated Recaro seats in mine, which make it a really nice place to be. The build quality of this generation is remarkable. Nothing rattles. It's all very solid.
I replaced the rear shock with a used OEM one from eBay for £30 (which came with the airbag!). Easy job, not sure why another forum member said it was one of the most difficult jobs they'd done? Took me about 1.5 hours?
I rebuilt the compressor with a £20 kit from an engineer in Scotland (BagPipingAndy). All corners lift and drop perfectly. That's usually the cause of the air system issues, a worn out compressor piston ring. The airbags on the rear are original, and the fronts I upgraded to Arnott USA, which I pulled off an allroad that was being scrapped.
I've had the cambelt, thermostat, water pump, idler pulley and aux belt changed. Good for another 8 years/80,000 miles.
The only thing currently wrong with mine is the remote central locking doesn't work. I've put that down to a dodgy loom in the rear door which I have ordered, used on eBay.
I've taken it off road, been though a very deep river crossings, kept up with Defenders and Discoveries whilst green laning, towed trailers and caravans with it; It's a faultless beast and supremely comfortable whilst doing everything I've thrown at it.
Best of all I paid £550 for it. The Pioneer Android Auto head unit that came with it is worth more than that!
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