Coronavirus = empty roads

Coronavirus = empty roads

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smartypants

47,208 posts

127 months

Thursday 26th March
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sparkyhx said:
I've had to go to the supermarket (several) every day this week to look for loo roll, I'd far sooner be tucked up in my car than going near anyone else at a f*cking supermarket, and I'm in the highest risk category being insulin dependent diabetic.

But for some reason it's fine to drive to several supermarkets every day than go out for a run and relieve some stress once in a while.
One st a day, use a towel and wash it, have a shower, do the doggy shuffle on your grass. Ask someone for some.

Going around supermarkets as a vulnerable person looking for a roll of paper is Darwinism.


Antony Moxey

5,372 posts

177 months

Thursday 26th March
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sparkyhx said:
I've had to go to the supermarket (several) every day this week to look for loo roll, I'd far sooner be tucked up in my car than going near anyone else at a f*cking supermarket, and I'm in the highest risk category being insulin dependent diabetic.

But for some reason it's fine to drive to several supermarkets every day than go out for a run and relieve some stress once in a while.
Of course, you’re absolutely correct. fk it everyone, let’s all go out for a hoon because someone can’t stock up on bog roll this week.

Doofus

13,185 posts

131 months

Thursday 26th March
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Buy a tabloid newspaper. Cut it into squares. Cheaper than the same quantity of bog roll.

I'm serious.

smartypants

47,208 posts

127 months

Thursday 26th March
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Gad-Westy said:
Sadly, I'm inclined to agree.

On a brighter note it does feel like those looking for 'clever' little loop holes to take advantage of are far out weighed by the sheer number of people trying to help.
The sad thing is, it isn’t a case of if we do the right thing we’ll be OK. The issue isn’t the virus, it’s the effect of more people that get it at the same time will overload our infrastructure and collapse our economy which fks us all up.

That’s what people can’t grasp. If we’re not all in this together, then there is really not much hope.

Saying that generally I think and hope most people are doing the right thing, London will be fked though I think.

smartypants

47,208 posts

127 months

Thursday 26th March
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Boosted LS1 said:
^ lol, your funny. If I sit by a lake or in a wood for hours on end there's no risk of transmission. I'm allowed to exercise, ride my bike or walk a dog.
And if everyone did that?

Oh God I am being sucked in by the stupid again...

Alextodrive

242 posts

33 months

Thursday 26th March
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Superleg48 said:
How clear does it have to be:

Stay at Home unless it is essential to leave the house.
Do not undertake non essential journeys.

So, fancying going for a bit of a drive fits into which of the above exactly?

Really, it is remarkable how many utter self-entitled plums spend their time working out loopholes to the most urgent request the Nation has had to fulfil in years as a collective effort to try to prevent this country descending into the same state as Italy, Spain etc.

It also appears you cannot reason with these fools, as they all know best and couldn’t give two fks about the impact their actions may have on other people, given the carefully calculated infinitesimal risk that they are so expertly positioned to assess.

I despair, I really do.
This was the best summary I've read yet.

I dont despair myself. I find them embarrassing.

I thought us Brits had a get your head down and get on with it spirit. That we were a fairly well educated, reasonable and decent society.

And then you read about all the self entitled muppets here who just want to go for a drive and find silly reasons to justify it. Laughable really.

smartypants

47,208 posts

127 months

Thursday 26th March
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Alextodrive said:
This was the best summary I've read yet.

I dont despair myself. I find them embarrassing.

I thought us Brits had a get your head down and get on with it spirit. That we were a fairly well educated, reasonable and decent society.

And then you read about all the self entitled muppets here who just want to go for a drive and find silly reasons to justify it. Laughable really.
We’ve had it way way too easy for too long. Life has been a piece of piss for everyone in the UK. And this is the result.


Reciprocating mass

5,836 posts

199 months

Thursday 26th March
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See the knuckle dragger that went out on his quad bike today wonder how many resources he used up !


Boosted LS1

19,390 posts

218 months

Thursday 26th March
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smartypants said:
And if everyone did that?

Oh God I am being sucked in by the stupid again...
I'm not everyone though am I? So why the hysteria by others? This is acceptable, 'I'm allowed to exercise, ride my bike or walk a dog'.


Edited by Boosted LS1 on Thursday 26th March 19:56

rallycross

11,010 posts

195 months

Thursday 26th March
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Reciprocating mass said:
See the knuckle dragger that went out on his quad bike today wonder how many resources he used up !
I saw that and had the same thought, I wonder if he had a helmet on ? Heft wack to the Audi takes a fair impact to do that level of damage. Darwinism in action and captured on film check out the daily Wail.

smartypants

47,208 posts

127 months

Thursday 26th March
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Boosted LS1 said:
I'm not everyone though am I? So why the hysteria by others? This is acceptable, 'I'm allowed to exercise, ride my bike or walk a dog'.


Edited by Boosted LS1 on Thursday 26th March 19:56
There’s no problem in doing your one form of exercise from your home, no. At the moment anyway.

Boosted LS1

19,390 posts

218 months

Thursday 26th March
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But I'm not being selfish. Why can't you grasp this? I'm out on my own, away from others and generally minding my own business. Those are the facts. If the sheeple want to follow the herd then sure, that's a risk. However I'm not one of those sheople.

Superleg48

1,020 posts

91 months

Thursday 26th March
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Boosted LS1 said:
But I'm not being selfish. Why can't you grasp this? I'm out on my own, away from others and generally minding my own business. Those are the facts. If the sheeple want to follow the herd then sure, that's a risk. However I'm not one of those sheople.
You cannot reason with stupid. You just can’t. You are not a sheeple, no. You are a Covidiot suffering from moronavirus.

If being sheeple means doing your bit to help “flatten the curve” of this terrible virus, then being sheeple is the way to go and hats to all of them. Thankfully sheeple seem to be in the majority. Let’s hope for all our sakes that the actions of the proudly self entitled do not scupper the strategy to overcome this tremendous challenge the world is facing.

Doofus

13,185 posts

131 months

Thursday 26th March
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Boosted LS1 said:
But I'm not being selfish. Why can't you grasp this? I'm out on my own, away from others and generally minding my own business. Those are the facts. If the sheeple want to follow the herd then sure, that's a risk. However I'm not one of those sheople.
You are being selfish, because you're saying that you can do it and others can't. What if we all decided to do exactly as you want, in the same places as you at the same time as you?

That still wouldn't be your problem, would it?

Almost all of us are finding this difficult, but guess what? WE'RE fkING DOING IT FOR THE GOOD OF OUR FELLOW CITIZENS.

Not everything in your life is about you.

Chubbyross

1,136 posts

43 months

Thursday 26th March
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I’m afraid we’re p***ing in the wind here. Alas, some people just aren’t very intelligent and will never understand.

smartypants

47,208 posts

127 months

Thursday 26th March
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Nope. Stupid is as stupid does.

smartypants

47,208 posts

127 months

Thursday 26th March
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This needs posting a lot

Eepidemiologist PhD student /Yale Lecturer said:
As an infectious disease epidemiologist (although a lowly one), at this point I feel morally obligated to provide some information on what we are seeing from a transmission dynamic perspective and how they apply to the social distancing measures. Like any good scientist I have noticed two things that are either not articulated or not present in the “literature” of social media. I have also relied on my much smarter infectious disease epidemiologist friends for peer review of this post; any edits are from peer review.
Specifically, I want to make two aspects of these measures very clear and unambiguous.

First, we are in the very infancy of this epidemic’s trajectory. That means even with these measures we will see cases and deaths continue to rise globally, nationally, and in our own communities in the coming weeks. This may lead some people to think that the social distancing measures are not working. They are. They may feel futile. They aren’t. You will feel discouraged. You should. This is normal in chaos. But this is normal epidemic trajectory. Stay calm. This enemy that we are facing is very good at what it does; we are not failing. We need everyone to hold the line as the epidemic inevitably gets worse. This is not my opinion; this is the unforgiving math of epidemics for which I and my colleagues have dedicated our lives to understanding with great nuance, and this disease is no exception. I want to help the community brace for this impact. Stay strong and with solidarity knowing with absolute certainty that what you are doing is saving lives, even as people begin getting sick and dying. You may feel like giving in. Don’t.

Second, although social distancing measures have been (at least temporarily) well-received, there is an obvious-but-overlooked phenomenon when considering groups (i.e. families) in transmission dynamics. While social distancing decreases contact with members of society, it of course increases your contacts with group (i.e. family) members. This small and obvious fact has surprisingly profound implications on disease transmission dynamics. Study after study demonstrates that even if there is only a little bit of connection between groups (i.e. social dinners, playdates/playgrounds, etc.), the epidemic isn’t much different than if there was no measure in place. The same underlying fundamentals of disease transmission apply, and the result is that the community is left with all of the social and economic disruption but very little public health benefit. You should perceive your entire family to function as a single individual unit; if one person puts themselves at risk, everyone in the unit is at risk. Seemingly small social chains get large and complex with alarming speed. If your son visits his girlfriend, and you later sneak over for coffee with a neighbor, your neighbor is now connected to the infected office worker that your son’s girlfriend’s mother shook hands with. This sounds silly, it’s not. This is not a joke or a hypothetical. We as epidemiologists see it borne out in the data time and time again and no one listens. Conversely, any break in that chain breaks disease transmission along that chain.

In contrast to hand-washing and other personal measures, social distancing measures are not about individuals, they are about societies working in unison. These measures also take a long time to see the results. It is hard (even for me) to conceptualize how on a population level ‘one quick little get together’ can undermine the entire framework of a public health intervention, but it does. I promise you it does. I promise. I promise. I promise. You can’t cheat it. People are already itching to cheat on the social distancing precautions just a “little”- a playdate, a haircut, or picking up a needless item at the store, etc. From a transmission dynamics standpoint, this very quickly recreates a highly connected social network that undermines all of the work the community has done so far.

Until we get a viable vaccine this unprecedented outbreak will not be overcome in one grand, sweeping gesture, rather only by the collection of individual choices our community makes in the coming months. This virus is unforgiving to unwise choices. My goal in writing this is to prevent communities from getting ‘sucker-punched’ by what the epidemiological community knows will happen in the coming weeks. It will be easy to be drawn to the idea that what we are doing isn’t working and become paralyzed by fear, or to ‘cheat’ a little bit in the coming weeks. By knowing what to expect, and knowing the importance of maintaining these measures, my hope is to encourage continued community spirit, strategizing, and action to persevere in this time of uncertainty.
Source: https://medium.com/@jpsmithalt/hold-the-line-17231...

Proof of author: https://medicine.yale.edu/profile/jonathan_p_smith...

Syndrome280

203 posts

69 months

Thursday 26th March
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Boosted LS1 said:
But I'm not being selfish. Why can't you grasp this?
Yes, you are.
Everyone in the country has been given a very specific set of instructions, at no point have they said “do what you like, if you think it’s appropriate”.
Despite what you think you’re not more important than everyone else nor do you have the facts, experience, training or ability to figure out how to combat this pandemic.

Boosted LS1

19,390 posts

218 months

Thursday 26th March
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Superleg48 said:
Boosted LS1 said:
But I'm not being selfish. Why can't you grasp this? I'm out on my own, away from others and generally minding my own business. Those are the facts. If the sheeple want to follow the herd then sure, that's a risk. However I'm not one of those sheople.
You cannot reason with stupid. You just can’t. You are not a sheeple, no. You are a Covidiot suffering from moronavirus.

If being sheeple means doing your bit to help “flatten the curve” of this terrible virus, then being sheeple is the way to go and hats to all of them. Thankfully sheeple seem to be in the majority. Let’s hope for all our sakes that the actions of the proudly self entitled do not scupper the strategy to overcome this tremendous challenge the world is facing.
I meant the sheeple going for jaunts as a herd to country parks etc. There is the risk

Boosted LS1

19,390 posts

218 months

Thursday 26th March
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Doofus said:
Boosted LS1 said:
But I'm not being selfish. Why can't you grasp this? I'm out on my own, away from others and generally minding my own business. Those are the facts. If the sheeple want to follow the herd then sure, that's a risk. However I'm not one of those sheople.
You are being selfish, because you're saying that you can do it and others can't. What if we all decided to do exactly as you want, in the same places as you at the same time as you?

That still wouldn't be your problem, would it?

Almost all of us are finding this difficult, but guess what? WE'RE fkING DOING IT FOR THE GOOD OF OUR FELLOW CITIZENS.

Not everything in your life is about you.
I've said no such thing. My understanding is that I can walk, ride, excercise out doors. Which part of that can't you comprehend given that I'm alone?