Coronavirus = empty roads

[Zoobeef]

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[Boosted LS1]

Doofus said:

Boosted LS1 said:

Because I'm not as stupid as you, blindly following the panic and adding hysteria to it. The PM says we can go out for a walk, run etc. Take one form of exercise a day and this is what I'm doing whilst being safe about it. It's not difficult.

Read the first link and see what you're guilty of.

I walk my dog each day, and so does my wife. We are doing so from our front door, without making any unnecessary journeys. We're not 'blindly following the panic'; we're doing what every single one of us has been asked to do. Most of us are doing it because all the evidence suggests it's the right thing ro do, and we don't see this as some sort of Billy Big bks contest, as you seem to do.

I'm not being hysterical, I'm being incredulous.

I'm allowed to go out. Don't you get it? If you don't grasp the basics then I'd suggest you keep your family in and clean up the dogst in the kitchen. Your family are a greater risk then me. You don't need to take the dogs out but assessed the risk just like I've done. You could kennel them and remain indoors.

Edited by Boosted LS1 on Thursday 26th March 22:20

[G_Morto]

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[Zoobeef]

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[Boosted LS1]

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[Greshamst]

I have to go one junction on the M1 to get to the supermarket. It was glorious today. Not a single car in lanes 3 and 4 as far as the eye could see, just lorries trundling down lanes 1&2.

Would have loved to go for a proper drive but alas, straight home after picking up my weekly food.

[Lincsls1]

Greshamst said:

I have to go one junction on the M1 to get to the supermarket. It was glorious today. Not a single car in lanes 3 and 4 as far as the eye could see, just lorries trundling down lanes 1&2.

Would have loved to go for a proper drive but alas, straight home after picking up my weekly food.

Did you see any Police pulling folk over?

[Doofus]

Boosted LS1 said:

'm allowed to go out. Don't you get it? If you don't grasp the basics then I'd suggest you keep your family in and clean up the dogst in the kitchen. Your family are a greater risk then me. You don't need to take the dogs out but assessed the risk just like I've done. You could kennel them and remain indoors.

Edited by Boosted LS1 on Thursday 26th March 22:20

Why is my family a greater risk than you?

Why am I arguing with a tt?

[Greshamst]

Lincsls1 said:

Greshamst said:

I have to go one junction on the M1 to get to the supermarket. It was glorious today. Not a single car in lanes 3 and 4 as far as the eye could see, just lorries trundling down lanes 1&2.

Would have loved to go for a proper drive but alas, straight home after picking up my weekly food.

Did you see any Police pulling folk over?

Nope, saw plenty of police cars about though

[mrtwisty]

Solocle said:

I could go for a 200 mile cycle without contravening government instructions. It's a distance I've done before (twice), and the advice is to do your usual exercise.

Will I? Hell no. Doing 200 miles in your proverbial backyard is just going to get boring. If I don't do it that way, there's a significant risk that I'm going to run out of energy and need picking up... which is an unnecessary journey.

I'm not going to curtail my distance unnecessarily - bread and butter 40 to 60 mile rides are still on the cards. Hell, if I feel adventurous, I could do 80-100. I don't necessarily need to stay on my doorstep for those distances, as long as I carry a suitable number of spares, and a suitable quantity of food and drink.

I'm surprised this post hasn't been picked up on by the more zealous posters on this thread. Perhaps because it doesn't mention driving?

I would suggest that riding 40 or 60 miles, even within a 5-10 mile radius of one's own home, is MUCH more risky (in terms of potential disease transmission) than a five mile drive, followed by a 2 hour walk in quiet open countryside, while maintaining sensible distancing and anti-viral transmission habits. A car vs cycle crash is often a serious event, requiring the intervention of many people over an extended timeframe. Like it or not, a fair few vehicles still need to continue using the roads.

There are still a LOT of people going to work that don't NEED to, since the advent of the massive government support that is coming on stream.

If we are really serious about limiting the transmission of this virus and giving the health service a fighting chance of doing its job, it is the movement of these non-essential workers that really needs to be curtailed for a few weeks.

To be clear, this has very little to do with the time these people spend on the roads, cooped up in their little metal quarantine boxes. It has much more to do with the 8 hours a day they spend in close proximity to one another.

[braddo]

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[Boosted LS1]

Doofus said:

Boosted LS1 said:

'm allowed to go out. Don't you get it? If you don't grasp the basics then I'd suggest you keep your family in and clean up the dogst in the kitchen. Your family are a greater risk then me. You don't need to take the dogs out but assessed the risk just like I've done. You could kennel them and remain indoors.

Edited by Boosted LS1 on Thursday 26th March 22:20

Why is my family a greater risk than you?

Why am I arguing with a tt?

Because it's getting late :-) you're a tt with a wife, that takes the dogs out when they could stay indoors and be kennelled. I'm single, no family to spread germs everywhere. You're twice the risk and some.

[heebeegeetee]

Doofus said:

Buy a tabloid newspaper. Cut it into squares. Cheaper than the same quantity of bog roll.

I'm serious.

Don't know why the picture won't display, but if you click on it it shows where you can get free toilet paper.

[Lambo FirstBlood]

It amazes me how many opinions there are about what’s going to happen, how many people are going to get ill, what sort of a virus it really is, what the NHS are really worried about; all from people with no training, qualifications or experience.

We have some of the best medical minds in the world and if we follow their advise, a muppet on PH says we are “sheople”

I like many on here and many more around the world have had an enormous financial hit that in just weeks has wiped out 1/3 of 2 decades worth of effort. I’ve laid an entire workforce off too. Add in the fact that 2 x close friends have family members who have the virus and who are not expected to survive it (both under 60 BTW)

All we are being asked to do is stay at home. I just can’t get over the selfishness of going to the beach or driving for hours. I’d love to do both of those things but we are being asked to stay at home. Even if you think you know better, isn’t it worth doing what we are being asked to do in case the amateur infection experts among us are wrong?

[Alextodrive]

Lambo FirstBlood said:

It amazes me how many opinions there are about what’s going to happen, how many people are going to get ill, what sort of a virus it really is, what the NHS are really worried about; all from people with no training, qualifications or experience.

We have some of the best medical minds in the world and if we follow their advise, a muppet on PH says we are “sheople”

I like many on here and many more around the world have had an enormous financial hit that in just weeks has wiped out 1/3 of 2 decades worth of effort. I’ve laid an entire workforce off too. Add in the fact that 2 x close friends have family members who have the virus and who are not expected to survive it (both under 60 BTW)

All we are being asked to do is stay at home. I just can’t get over the selfishness of going to the beach or driving for hours. I’d love to do both of those things but we are being asked to stay at home. Even if you think you know better, isn’t it worth doing what we are being asked to do in case the amateur infection experts among us are wrong?

Dont be ridiculous. I'd rather listen to someone who knows their way around a gearbox and read a few articles online.

Experts are over-rated know it alls.

And don't forget, the police are just bullied children who now want to bully us with penalty tickets for enjoying the empty roads.

Edited by Alextodrive on Friday 27th March 00:18

[lawyered07]

This thread is up there with the lambo thread for quality recent reading. Keep it coming...its making being stuck at home slightly more bearable

Edited to say, Lambo Firstblood your sensible comments aren't welcome here!

[Chubbyross]

lawyered07 said:

This thread is up there with the lambo thread for quality recent reading. Keep it coming...its making being stuck at home slightly more bearable

Edited to say, Lambo Firstblood your sensible comments aren't welcome here!

Apparently we’re not stuck at home, according to some muppets on here. ;-)

[DonkeyApple]

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[Justin Case]

Some simple maths. The growth of a virus is an exponential function, which means that the number of cases in each period is a multiple of the number of cases in the previous period and so on. For example with a five day incubation period if each person transmits it to two others, in a month 64 people will have caught it. If on the other hand by social isolation then the transmission rate can be reduced to 1.5 then by the end of the same month only just over 11 people will have caught it. There is not enough evidence yet to put precise figures on this calculation, which is why estimates appear to vary so widely, but whichever model you use, staying in and not hooning around the countryside for the sake of it is so important

[Solocle]

mrtwisty said:

Solocle said:

I could go for a 200 mile cycle without contravening government instructions. It's a distance I've done before (twice), and the advice is to do your usual exercise.

Will I? Hell no. Doing 200 miles in your proverbial backyard is just going to get boring. If I don't do it that way, there's a significant risk that I'm going to run out of energy and need picking up... which is an unnecessary journey.

I'm not going to curtail my distance unnecessarily - bread and butter 40 to 60 mile rides are still on the cards. Hell, if I feel adventurous, I could do 80-100. I don't necessarily need to stay on my doorstep for those distances, as long as I carry a suitable number of spares, and a suitable quantity of food and drink.

I'm surprised this post hasn't been picked up on by the more zealous posters on this thread. Perhaps because it doesn't mention driving?

I would suggest that riding 40 or 60 miles, even within a 5-10 mile radius of one's own home, is MUCH more risky (in terms of potential disease transmission) than a five mile drive, followed by a 2 hour walk in quiet open countryside, while maintaining sensible distancing and anti-viral transmission habits. A car vs cycle crash is often a serious event, requiring the intervention of many people over an extended timeframe. Like it or not, a fair few vehicles still need to continue using the roads.

There are still a LOT of people going to work that don't NEED to, since the advent of the massive government support that is coming on stream.

If we are really serious about limiting the transmission of this virus and giving the health service a fighting chance of doing its job, it is the movement of these non-essential workers that really needs to be curtailed for a few weeks.

To be clear, this has very little to do with the time these people spend on the roads, cooped up in their little metal quarantine boxes. It has much more to do with the 8 hours a day they spend in close proximity to one another.

In terms of disease transmission, your point would certainly be valid if I lived in an urban area. I don't - I'm out into NSL country roads after 300 yards. And yes, some vehicles do continue using the roads, and they will be going faster due to the reduced traffic. From what I've seen though, there's not terrible driving in my area, and even the (pretty well sighted) A roads are quiet. So risk strikes me as significantly lower than that in normal times.