Coronavirus = empty roads
Discussion
sparta6 said:
But that's NOT what we are being asked to do. There are hundreds of thousands (if not millions) working - most for obvious reasons, but some not so obvious - that's a risk
We are allowed to go for a 'walk' - why? its not essential! - that's a risk?
If we go outside in the countryside that's a different level of risk to doing it in a city center - yet people in city centres are allowed to do far riskier activity than people in the countryside its not essential - so stop it..
We don't want to put others at risk - agreed - so are we all sat at home lying flat on the bed? No anything other than that is none essential, if I climb a ladder, stand on a chair, walk up and down stairs, change a bulb, make a cup of tea, cook.
All these activities and many more besides have the potential to draw in others and are statistically more risky than having a drive.
There is no logic to 'advising' stopping some things in comparison with others, pointing out the illogical and arbitrary nonsense in thinking is NOT a crime.
Maintaining social distancing is essential, I don't think anyone is arguing against that, but to turn round and say the ONLY way of doing that is to stay at home (whilst being allowed to do non essential exercise and non essential walk the dog etc) is silly and illogical, totally ban all movement for none essential workers, that is the only thing to makes sense.
My house overlooks a crossroads on a sort of unofficial cross country time-trial route through the south notts villages. While WFH all week I've seen and heard plenty of exotica out for a blat, way more than we usually hear at the weekends, some driven sensibly, some like absolute tits including an M2 & M4 pairing that I've seen multiple times.
I've had my knuckles wrapped this morning by the police as we take our dogs over the next village to walk them (many reasons why which I won't explain here) fair play, thems the rules at the moment but it sounds like fines will be the norm from next week if you haven't got one of the qualifying reasons to be going out.
I've had my knuckles wrapped this morning by the police as we take our dogs over the next village to walk them (many reasons why which I won't explain here) fair play, thems the rules at the moment but it sounds like fines will be the norm from next week if you haven't got one of the qualifying reasons to be going out.
Superleg48 said:
All of the arguments being raised about risk comparisons, whilst valid are missing the fundamental point. The instruction, not advice, is to stay at home unless essential to leave. It is not essential to drive for a jolly it is not essential to cycle 100 or 200 miles, it is not essential to run 5 or 10k. Exercise is allowed, but the intention of that advice is you start from home and return to home ( not drive somewhere first). Just go for a walk once a day for a couple of weeks. You can do that wherever you live and still manage the 2m social distancing advice, be it city, town or countryside.
This is it and it is really the end of the discussion vis a vis going out for a drive.Been out in the garden most of the day so far and overlooking one of the popular roads out to north wales I have seen quite a few obviously non essential trips taking place, 3 groups of cyclists, one group of eight the others of 4 each, 4 adult males could be all living in the same house but 8 is unlikely. I have seen 4 groups of motorcyclists, I am sure they were only going shopping for essentials though. Last night a group of 5 cars stopped at the bottom of the hill, spoke to each over then all drove off together. The local attraction has had to be closed as people were still travelling there to go for a walk. Plenty of cars parked in the car park, This is in an area which is generally very quiet this time of year.
sparkyhx said:
sparta6 said:
But that's NOT what we are being asked to do. There are hundreds of thousands (if not millions) working - most for obvious reasons, but some not so obvious - that's a risk
We are allowed to go for a 'walk' - why? its not essential! - that's a risk?
If we go outside in the countryside that's a different level of risk to doing it in a city center - yet people in city centres are allowed to do far riskier activity than people in the countryside its not essential - so stop it..
We don't want to put others at risk - agreed - so are we all sat at home lying flat on the bed? No anything other than that is none essential, if I climb a ladder, stand on a chair, walk up and down stairs, change a bulb, make a cup of tea, cook.
All these activities and many more besides have the potential to draw in others and are statistically more risky than having a drive.
There is no logic to 'advising' stopping some things in comparison with others, pointing out the illogical and arbitrary nonsense in thinking is NOT a crime.
Maintaining social distancing is essential, I don't think anyone is arguing against that, but to turn round and say the ONLY way of doing that is to stay at home (whilst being allowed to do non essential exercise and non essential walk the dog etc) is silly and illogical, totally ban all movement for none essential workers, that is the only thing to makes sense.
CSLchappie said:
My house overlooks a crossroads on a sort of unofficial cross country time-trial route through the south notts villages. While WFH all week I've seen and heard plenty of exotica out for a blat, way more than we usually hear at the weekends, some driven sensibly, some like absolute tits including an M2 & M4 pairing that I've seen multiple times.
I've had my knuckles wrapped this morning by the police as we take our dogs over the next village to walk them (many reasons why which I won't explain here) fair play, thems the rules at the moment but it sounds like fines will be the norm from next week if you haven't got one of the qualifying reasons to be going out.
Dog walkers have really shown themselves up to be self entitled idiots these past few weeks.I've had my knuckles wrapped this morning by the police as we take our dogs over the next village to walk them (many reasons why which I won't explain here) fair play, thems the rules at the moment but it sounds like fines will be the norm from next week if you haven't got one of the qualifying reasons to be going out.
ensignia said:
Dog walkers have really shown themselves up to be self entitled idiots these past few weeks.
You don’t want to imagine the horror of the virus jumps back to another mammal!!! No one really cares about old people and the weak in the UK. They are just punters who get in the way when trying to shop. But the country will collapse emotionally of a dog comes down with C19. And just imagine the violent revolution if the government were to then tell owners that dogs would no longer be allowed to lick faecal waste all over their faces!!! ensignia said:
CSLchappie said:
My house overlooks a crossroads on a sort of unofficial cross country time-trial route through the south notts villages. While WFH all week I've seen and heard plenty of exotica out for a blat, way more than we usually hear at the weekends, some driven sensibly, some like absolute tits including an M2 & M4 pairing that I've seen multiple times.
I've had my knuckles wrapped this morning by the police as we take our dogs over the next village to walk them (many reasons why which I won't explain here) fair play, thems the rules at the moment but it sounds like fines will be the norm from next week if you haven't got one of the qualifying reasons to be going out.
Dog walkers have really shown themselves up to be self entitled idiots these past few weeks.I've had my knuckles wrapped this morning by the police as we take our dogs over the next village to walk them (many reasons why which I won't explain here) fair play, thems the rules at the moment but it sounds like fines will be the norm from next week if you haven't got one of the qualifying reasons to be going out.
100 said:
Audi a1 drivers... why didn’t they just get an a3?! Lol
Urr well if you don't need the extra space; cheaper to buy, cheaper to run, lighter, more nimble, narrower for less scary B road action, easier to park, quicker to clean...but apart from that, what have small cars ever done for us?
Lol
Edited by VeeFource on Friday 3rd April 19:42
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