Coronavirus = empty roads

[markyb_lcy]

HM-2 said:

sparkyhx said:

And I bet every one of them was not doing a quick ride round the block for an hr.

IIRC it's half an hour for cycling or running and 1hr for walking.

Plenty of Lycra Louts flouting the rules, I took our daughter for a walk this morning so my wife could have a lie-in, then popped to the supermarket two hours later and passed the same cyclist I'd seen going out of my village, coming back from his ride. Seen plenty of them and runners etc spitting in the proximity of other pedestrians which is frankly nasty at the best of times too.

I bet your hour of walking and shopping in a supermarket provided more transmission opportunities than the cyclist. Not having a dig, we all need to shop.

[Dg504]

HM-2 said:

IIRC it's half an hour for cycling or running and 1hr for walking.

Plenty of Lycra Louts flouting the rules, I took our daughter for a walk this morning so my wife could have a lie-in, then popped to the supermarket two hours later and passed the same cyclist I'd seen going out of my village, coming back from his ride. Seen plenty of them and runners etc spitting in the proximity of other pedestrians which is frankly nasty at the best of times too.

You recall incorrectly - where did you read that?

Roads are very quiet, even compared to Sunday morning quiet. I managed a couple of hours earlier, passed a few with extra distance on the empty roads. Most of the population were seemingly in huge snaking queues around supermarket car parks from what I saw.

[MiseryStreak]

I just got back from my first solo ride since the lockdown. I have been out with the kids every day so not had the opportunity.

Even though it’s not the law, I stopped when my Garmin read 15 minutes and turned back. Unfortunately I didn’t account for the bd of a headwind on the return leg and was rapidly running out of time to get back to the safety of my house. With 29 minutes and 45 secs showing on my Garmin I took the final corner into my road a bit too quickly and ploughed straight into a family of 6 having a picnic at the side of the road.

It’s ok though, because the s were clearly from two different families as they weren’t arguing, so I don’t have to feel bad about bleeding all over them.

I was just about to notify the local police of my infringement as I had now been out for 36 minutes, but as I walked the last 6 (as bike was in two bits) I realised that I’m allowed an extra 30 minutes as the activity is now a walk.

Phew!

[HM-2]

Dg504 said:

You recall incorrectly - where did you read that?

I'd seen it referenced on the Beeb I think, but in Googling it it appears to be Gove's verbal clarification in response to the "how long is acceptable" question as per https://www.runnersworld.com/uk/news/amp31973975/c...

"I would have thought for most people a walk of up to an hour, a run of 30 minutes or a cycle ride of between that, depending on their level of fitness, is appropriate."

Not sure if that's codified though.

[Boosted LS1]

Phew just in time indeed. Now expect the wrath to fall upon you. Bad man that you are lol.

[Dg504]

Fair do’s, like you say it’s his suggestion than rules I think?

I can’t speak for all but I know that cycling is just about the only me time I get - to be out of the house, in the sun and as self sufficient as possible is a lovely escape.

[Boosted LS1]

Go for it, I wish I could.

[swisstoni]

MiseryStreak said:

I just got back from my first solo ride since the lockdown. I have been out with the kids every day so not had the opportunity.

Even though it’s not the law, I stopped when my Garmin read 15 minutes and turned back. Unfortunately I didn’t account for the bd of a headwind on the return leg and was rapidly running out of time to get back to the safety of my house. With 29 minutes and 45 secs showing on my Garmin I took the final corner into my road a bit too quickly and ploughed straight into a family of 6 having a picnic at the side of the road.

It’s ok though, because the s were clearly from two different families as they weren’t arguing, so I don’t have to feel bad about bleeding all over them.

I was just about to notify the local police of my infringement as I had now been out for 36 minutes, but as I walked the last 6 (as bike was in two bits) I realised that I’m allowed an extra 30 minutes as the activity is now a walk.

Phew!

Glad you were relatively uninjured.
But if you had broken your neck- what then?

Two unnecessary journeys combine to wind you up in hospital.
Some poor sods from the NHS having to tidy you up and you visiting one of the last places anyone wants to go near at the moment - a hospital.

[Johnnytheboy]

I think you may have just ridden your bike into a parrot.

[swisstoni]

Johnnytheboy said:

I think you may have just ridden your bike into a parrot.

Go on. I’d be a proud recipient.

[Antony Moxey]

While we’re all on here being smartarses about going for drives on empty roads, visiting deserted wilderness or cycling for ten hours, is there any genuine reason why we can’t do as the government insists and simply stay at home? Most people seem to be managing, why do some think they’re a special case that the rules don’t apply to?

[Electro1980]

HM-2 said:

Dg504 said:

You recall incorrectly - where did you read that?

I'd seen it referenced on the Beeb I think, but in Googling it it appears to be Gove's verbal clarification in response to the "how long is acceptable" question as per https://www.runnersworld.com/uk/news/amp31973975/c...

"I would have thought for most people a walk of up to an hour, a run of 30 minutes or a cycle ride of between that, depending on their level of fitness, is appropriate."

Not sure if that's codified though.

It was a number Gove pulled out of his arse on the spot. Now a load of idiots are deeming it “the law”.

[Electro1980]

Antony Moxey said:

While we’re all on here being smartarses about going for drives on empty roads, visiting deserted wilderness or cycling for ten hours, is there any genuine reason why we can’t do as the government insists and simply stay at home? Most people seem to be managing, why do some think they’re a special case that the rules don’t apply to?

“Most people” are not staying at home. The mental and physical health damage of staying in for what could be weeks on end would be huge.

[markyb_lcy]

HM-2 said:

Dg504 said:

You recall incorrectly - where did you read that?

I'd seen it referenced on the Beeb I think, but in Googling it it appears to be Gove's verbal clarification in response to the "how long is acceptable" question as per https://www.runnersworld.com/uk/news/amp31973975/c...

"I would have thought for most people a walk of up to an hour, a run of 30 minutes or a cycle ride of between that, depending on their level of fitness, is appropriate."

Not sure if that's codified though.

Indeed it’s not. It’s one minister’s “you’ve forced me into giving an answer” answer. It doesn’t form part of the official advice, but it is imo, to be fair to him, a reasonable “rule of thumb”. Note the use of “for most” and “depending on levels of fitness” to qualify that it is an inexact assertion from him.

If everyone did that, on average, we should be fine. In practice, some will do more, and some will do less.

[markyb_lcy]

Electro1980 said:

Antony Moxey said:

While we’re all on here being smartarses about going for drives on empty roads, visiting deserted wilderness or cycling for ten hours, is there any genuine reason why we can’t do as the government insists and simply stay at home? Most people seem to be managing, why do some think they’re a special case that the rules don’t apply to?

“Most people” are not staying at home. The mental and physical health damage of staying in for what could be weeks on end would be huge.

Yep. And that’s why the exercise is advised, allowed and recommended.

Why can’t those staying in 24/7 just follow the advice and take some daily outdoor exercise whilst following SD advice? How dare they not follow the govt advice when we are all out doing our best taking an hours walk every day. “It’s not difficult”. Etc etc

[oceanview]

Yep- thought I was a worrier but, some people are just crazy!

[Antony Moxey]

markyb_lcy said:

Electro1980 said:

Antony Moxey said:

While we’re all on here being smartarses about going for drives on empty roads, visiting deserted wilderness or cycling for ten hours, is there any genuine reason why we can’t do as the government insists and simply stay at home? Most people seem to be managing, why do some think they’re a special case that the rules don’t apply to?

“Most people” are not staying at home. The mental and physical health damage of staying in for what could be weeks on end would be huge.

Yep. And that’s why the exercise is advised, allowed and recommended.

Why can’t those staying in 24/7 just follow the advice and take some daily outdoor exercise whilst following SD advice? How dare they not follow the govt advice when we are all out doing our best taking an hours walk every day. “It’s not difficult”. Etc etc

Most people are and are following the government’s guidelines. I’m on about the entitled on here as I described in my opening sentence. But I guess you knew that and are just splitting hairs for the sake of argument.

The government is telling us to stay at home (with caveats, surely they don’t need listing, we know what they are), my question is why are some people finding this so difficult?

[markyb_lcy]

Antony Moxey said:

markyb_lcy said:

Electro1980 said:

Antony Moxey said:

While we’re all on here being smartarses about going for drives on empty roads, visiting deserted wilderness or cycling for ten hours, is there any genuine reason why we can’t do as the government insists and simply stay at home? Most people seem to be managing, why do some think they’re a special case that the rules don’t apply to?

“Most people” are not staying at home. The mental and physical health damage of staying in for what could be weeks on end would be huge.

Yep. And that’s why the exercise is advised, allowed and recommended.

Why can’t those staying in 24/7 just follow the advice and take some daily outdoor exercise whilst following SD advice? How dare they not follow the govt advice when we are all out doing our best taking an hours walk every day. “It’s not difficult”. Etc etc

Most people are and are following the government’s guidelines. I’m on about the entitled on here as I described in my opening sentence. But I guess you knew that and are just splitting hairs for the sake of argument.

The government is telling us to stay at home (with caveats, surely they don’t need listing, we know what they are), my question is why are some people finding this so difficult?

Because their worlds and everything they’ve done all their lives without question is being restricted and advised against, in a very fast moving daily updated situation.

I and others keep glibly saying things like “it’s not hard” but actually it is quite hard. Harder for some than others. I think it’s sunk in now with most, even those that flouted bits of it at the start. Advice has also now been better clarified as the issues have been raised.

I didn’t mean to take argument with you, and I was being rather flippant. Broadly I agree with you. Unfortunately our society does contain a portion of entitled people. It always has. I’ve learnt to accept it and not let it get to me. I think the model being used to inform the restrictions has build in an “allowance” for these “entitled”. I can see how that angers people, but that anger doesn’t help much all the same.

[sparta6]

HM-2 said:

IIRC it's half an hour for cycling or running and 1hr for walking.

Plenty of Lycra Louts flouting the rules, I took our daughter for a walk this morning so my wife could have a lie-in, then popped to the supermarket two hours later and passed the same cyclist I'd seen going out of my village, coming back from his ride. Seen plenty of them and runners etc spitting in the proximity of other pedestrians which is frankly nasty at the best of times too.

Spitting in public should be an on-the-spot fine for anyone.

[ToothbrushMan]

yes roads are much lighter but seeing a fair few of the same expensive farting german cars being razzed up and down the main road outside my house and at speed too seemingly by youngs lads that cant see over the top of the steering wheels or theyve sat themselves down so low they cant see properly......why are they out and not on lockdown like the rest of us? Why arent they being stopped by police and sent home? get off the roads you morons. its not or big or clever. probably trying to justify their monthly PCP payments....... they can hardly be popping out locally for essentials like erm food