Coronavirus = empty roads

[wack]

Some people have no shame , a biker has been hitting 90+ in a 40 near me this afternoon while the people that might have to treat him if he comes off are dying at work

But it's only like the flu so I'm going out in my bike/car , medical staff dont normally die when they treat somebody with the flu

[Lincsls1]

wack said:

Some people have no shame , a biker has been hitting 90+ in a 40 near me this afternoon while the people that might have to treat him if he comes off are dying at work

That kind of crap shouldn't happen in any situation, but it does, and even a pandemic like this won't squash it.

[Johnnytheboy]

Antony Moxey said:

While we’re all on here being smartarses about going for drives on empty roads, visiting deserted wilderness or cycling for ten hours, is there any genuine reason why we can’t do as the government insists and simply stay at home? Most people seem to be managing, why do some think they’re a special case that the rules don’t apply to?

I think an awful lot of people think the lockdown applies to everyone else.

[V8fan]

Electro1980 said:

“Most people” are not staying at home. The mental and physical health damage of staying in for what could be weeks on end would be huge.

I haven't been further than the front drive or the back garden since Friday. But then, I'm a lazy arse.

[Hungrymc]

Today I’ve heard a number of motorbikes pulling wheelies (the on off throttle - sounded like a big group, one of the dodgy stolen / illegal bike rides I guess). On my 30 min cycle with my kids have seen an s3 and a 140i racing really hard (cars unstable round a wide / fast roundabout). And a lovely grey i8 getting thrashed.

What’s the matter with people? The whole country is affected, spending billions, destroying businesses, losing lives and putting the NHS under massive pressure.... But some just think it’s ok for them to take the piss so they can have some fun.... utter wkers.

[LM24Nut]

Hungrymc said:

What’s the matter with people? The whole country is affected, spending billions, destroying businesses, losing lives and putting the NHS under massive pressure.... But some just think it’s ok for them to take the piss so they can have some fun.... utter wkers.

It's called "enjoying the war" because the peace will be hell.

Berliners said a similar thing to one another as the Soviets approached Berlin toward the end of WW2.

[sparkyhx]

Antony Moxey said:

While we’re all on here being smartarses about going for drives on empty roads, visiting deserted wilderness or cycling for ten hours, is there any genuine reason why we can’t do as the government insists and simply stay at home? Most people seem to be managing, why do some think they’re a special case that the rules don’t apply to?

I refer you to my previous post, the rules aren't "stay at home" they allow for shopping and exercise. This is illogical, exercise is NOT necessary. For what reason is exercise allowed? It is far more logical and consistent to ban exercise and then there is no arguement.

......... But of course the suicide rate and domestic abuse rate will rocket.

[LM24Nut]

sparkyhx said:

But of course the suicide rate and domestic abuse rate will rocket.

Well, in my neck of the woods (SE London) the shootings and stabbings are still taking place and I’d imagine that’ll be the case for many parts of London. The real drains on police and NHS resources don’t seem to give a stuff about a lockdown.

However, all we’re concerned about is some middle class blokes taking their cars out for a spin.

[ARHarh]

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/... hope he gets a big fine for that.

[RochdalePioneers]

I don't post very often, but in England at least there really are few rules about what we can and can't do, with "reasonable excuse" to be out all that the law requires. You can ride your bike all day every day as your daily exercise and its completely legal.

[Dog Star]

RochdalePioneers said:

I don't post very often, but in England at least there really are few rules about what we can and can't do, with "reasonable excuse" to be out all that the law requires. You can ride your bike all day every day as your daily exercise and its completely legal.

I can walk out of my back garden directly onto the Pennine moors, and if I want to I will, and I won't see another soul. I'm intelligent enough to know that this is putting precisely nobody at risk. I am not likely to bother about this because of some ranting angry bloke on the internet, who is almost undoubtedly in the overcrowded south east.

[Hungrymc]

Dog Star said:

I can walk out of my back garden directly onto the Pennine moors, and if I want to I will, and I won't see another soul. I'm intelligent enough to know that this is putting precisely nobody at risk. I am not likely to bother about this because of some ranting angry bloke on the internet, who is almost undoubtedly in the overcrowded south east.

Where does the advice say you shouldn’t?

I thought you were encouraged to exercise, locally, but keep it to an hour and once a day.

[Superleg48]

RochdalePioneers said:

I don't post very often, but in England at least there really are few rules about what we can and can't do, with "reasonable excuse" to be out all that the law requires. You can ride your bike all day every day as your daily exercise and its completely legal.

Yes, but it is not sensible and reasonable to do so and certainly not in the spirit of the consistent messaging, which in case you had missed it is:

Stay at Home, Protect the NHS and Save Lives.

There really is no reason to be a dhead about it, is there?

[Superleg48]

Dog Star said:

I can walk out of my back garden directly onto the Pennine moors, and if I want to I will, and I won't see another soul. I'm intelligent enough to know that this is putting precisely nobody at risk. I am not likely to bother about this because of some ranting angry bloke on the internet, who is almost undoubtedly in the overcrowded south east.

But this is perfectly acceptable, if you are able to access the Penine Moors from your home as easily as this, it is perfectly reasonable to pop over your garden fence and go for a walk for a bit of exercise. No ranting here.

If however, you are someone that needs to do an hours drive to be able to do the same, then you are dhead.

[Drl22]

LM24Nut said:

sparkyhx said:

But of course the suicide rate and domestic abuse rate will rocket.

Well, in my neck of the woods (SE London) the shootings and stabbings are still taking place and I’d imagine that’ll be the case for many parts of London. The real drains on police and NHS resources don’t seem to give a stuff about a lockdown.

However, all we’re concerned about is some middle class blokes taking their cars out for a spin.

This website isn’t called “Drugs n Stabbins in the Endz” it’s a car website so it tends to be what we talk about.

[DonkeyApple]

Dog Star said:

RochdalePioneers said:

I don't post very often, but in England at least there really are few rules about what we can and can't do, with "reasonable excuse" to be out all that the law requires. You can ride your bike all day every day as your daily exercise and its completely legal.

I can walk out of my back garden directly onto the Pennine moors, and if I want to I will, and I won't see another soul. I'm intelligent enough to know that this is putting precisely nobody at risk. I am not likely to bother about this because of some ranting angry bloke on the internet, who is almost undoubtedly in the overcrowded south east.

The problem is that it is about being sensible and intelligent and what we know is that huge swathes of the population are neither and that many who believe that they are suffer from Dunning Kruger.

Because of this it is simply smarter for everyone to follow the rules. The intelligent and sensible understand that while they could easily go out for a nice long drive, take advantage of the quiet roads for a long bike ride or go walking all day, those simple acts do increase the risk to others, primarily the emergency services who really need our help by not adding unnecessary workload.

This is a reasonable example of someone who was really at absolutely no risk of C19 but his selfish actions subsequently put innocent parties at risk.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52174288

I think that this is the part that some aren’t comprehending fully which is that it is not completely about contracting or transmitting C19 but also about not doing things that carry an elevated risk of needing other people to help you. This would also include adventurous DIY and other things in the home.

It’s about making a tiny, almost irrelevant personal sacrifice or just being selfish.

[T1berious]

RochdalePioneers said:

I don't post very often, but in England at least there really are few rules about what we can and can't do, with "reasonable excuse" to be out all that the law requires. You can ride your bike all day every day as your daily exercise and its completely legal.

I thought the government guideline was an hour? I've been out on my bike for an hour a few times and do a weights session to stay sane.

The Mrs is currently doing 4 days on 4 days off as a clinical consultant and yeah, when you hear \ read of NHS staff losing their lives while treating people it brings it all home.

Stay home, adhere to social distancing when you have to go out \ do exercise. I'm not sure why so many people insist on being tools.

T1b (or the artist currently scared to death)

[markyb_lcy]

Drl22 said:

LM24Nut said:

sparkyhx said:

But of course the suicide rate and domestic abuse rate will rocket.

Well, in my neck of the woods (SE London) the shootings and stabbings are still taking place and I’d imagine that’ll be the case for many parts of London. The real drains on police and NHS resources don’t seem to give a stuff about a lockdown.

However, all we’re concerned about is some middle class blokes taking their cars out for a spin.

This website isn’t called “Drugs n Stabbins in the Endz” it’s a car website so it tends to be what we talk about.

I’m also interested in what shootings and stabbings have actually taken place in SE London during the crisis because I’m not seeing that at all. Crime by all accounts is down by rather staggering amounts. I live in SE London too (for my sins) and I’m generally on top of local news. Admittedly some of that may be much further down the news agenda but I’d still expect to see it if it was happening.

[DonkeyApple]

markyb_lcy said:

I’m also interested in what shootings and stabbings have actually taken place in SE London during the crisis because I’m not seeing that at all. Crime by all accounts is down by rather staggering amounts. I live in SE London too (for my sins) and I’m generally on top of local news. Admittedly some of that may be much further down the news agenda but I’d still expect to see it if it was happening.

Yup. Certainly the news gives the impression that South London should arguably just stay on lockdown going forward as a benefit to all of us.

In reality, the various London tribes have always been stabbing each other, its was so prevalent and endless that there was never any point in wasting ink publishing the event. For the last 100 years if the Evening Standard publishes every stabbing then it would have stripped the Amazon rainforest of all its trees by the mid 60s.

The reality is that what has changed is that people with middle class incomes have moved into locations where the historic pastimes have been nipping out to consume some drugs, perforate someone for no real reason and then pop home to punch the missus a few times. And the media has suddenly adopted stabbing as a pet issue. It goes looking for them and writes about them whereas before people in the media industry didn’t live in those areas so didn’t give a flying fk.

Simultaneously, the middle income earners who chose not to go and live in those non prime locations all chose to start walking around with £1000 phones in their pockets and £5000 bangles on their wrist and zero physical means to stop anyone from taking them. So all of a sudden, all those kids who had little incentive to leave their small zone where they fought each other for crappy drug sales on a street ownership basis suddenly realise that instead of stabbing each other over who controls a street that has two people walking on it with a bit of their giro in their pockets and an old Blackberry they can fight over all the streets of London that have thousands of non threatening people in them all carrying £1000 phones and gold bracelets.

But now the media has a new thing to write about for the moment and so the standby stuff can just go back to being unreported because I’m reality no one in the media gives two hoots whether a couple of scrotes stab each other. Never have. Never will.

[LM24Nut]

markyb_lcy said:

I’m also interested in what shootings and stabbings have actually taken place in SE London during the crisis because I’m not seeing that at all. Crime by all accounts is down by rather staggering amounts. I live in SE London too (for my sins) and I’m generally on top of local news. Admittedly some of that may be much further down the news agenda but I’d still expect to see it if it was happening.

There was a crackdown during the lockdown last week

Operation Sceptre in numbers in Croydon, Sutton and Bromley:

230 weapon sweeps
225 stop and searches
63 arrests – for possession of knives and weapons, possession of drugs, robbery, knife crime, violence and burglary.
50 seizures – this includes 15 knives, four knuckle dusters, two axes, one taser, two imitation firearms, £30,000 in cash and 26 separate drug seizures of large amounts of cocaine and cannabis

https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/18358649.violen...

225 stop and searches? Can’t all be joggers, surely?