Ask a car salesman anything...anything at all (Vol. 2).
Discussion
anotheruser said:
I'm rubbish at negotiation.
I'm not really a conversationalist.
The prices of two similar cars aren't particularly inflated when using Auto Trader's car valuation tool.
The prices are £10,450 and £9,650.
Without being rude and without having to get into the nitty gritty swinging prices back and fourth, what sort of offer should I make?
Should I then agree to meet in the middle and be done? Or swing it a little more my way?
I know I should be prepared to walk away and will do as there's others I can go and see but these two seem pretty good for the money (others I have seen are priced £1000 higher. I'd be looking to buy that day if possible.
If they are priced correctly/well then there is likely no or very little room for negotiation, as has been mentioned many times, cars have to be priced correctly in the first place as advertised cars are seen nationally, you need to also back up why the car should be cheaper, not going in asking for xyz off, just because, already you state that others are £1000 more and the garage are likely to know this so what possible reason is there to discount theirs?I'm not really a conversationalist.
The prices of two similar cars aren't particularly inflated when using Auto Trader's car valuation tool.
The prices are £10,450 and £9,650.
Without being rude and without having to get into the nitty gritty swinging prices back and fourth, what sort of offer should I make?
Should I then agree to meet in the middle and be done? Or swing it a little more my way?
I know I should be prepared to walk away and will do as there's others I can go and see but these two seem pretty good for the money (others I have seen are priced £1000 higher. I'd be looking to buy that day if possible.
Don't go in knowing you cannot afford either car as you are looking at the wrong car, sure have a go at getting something off and see that as a bonus, but be prepared to pay the asking price is it isa good car and what you want.
anotheruser said:
I'm rubbish at negotiation.
I'm not really a conversationalist.
The prices of two similar cars aren't particularly inflated when using Auto Trader's car valuation tool.
The prices are £10,450 and £9,650.
Without being rude and without having to get into the nitty gritty swinging prices back and fourth, what sort of offer should I make?
Should I then agree to meet in the middle and be done? Or swing it a little more my way?
I know I should be prepared to walk away and will do as there's others I can go and see but these two seem pretty good for the money (others I have seen are priced £1000 higher. I'd be looking to buy that day if possible.
Go and see the £10450 car first and offer him 9 grand because there's another one on Autotrader cheaper. When they tell you to get lost, go and see the £9650 car and offer him 8 grand cash and tell him you're doing them a favour taking it off their hands. If they resist, just keep repeating "best price bruv. Cash". When they tell you to get lost, text that to both sellers repeatedly for the next 48 hours.I'm not really a conversationalist.
The prices of two similar cars aren't particularly inflated when using Auto Trader's car valuation tool.
The prices are £10,450 and £9,650.
Without being rude and without having to get into the nitty gritty swinging prices back and fourth, what sort of offer should I make?
Should I then agree to meet in the middle and be done? Or swing it a little more my way?
I know I should be prepared to walk away and will do as there's others I can go and see but these two seem pretty good for the money (others I have seen are priced £1000 higher. I'd be looking to buy that day if possible.
On a more serious note, I wouldn't go and view a car that I wasn't willing to pay the asking price for - but everyone likes a deal. I'd go an see the £9650 one and if it was straight be looking to pay £9500 if that was a good price. I might offer £9k initially but I wouldn't expect to be owning it for that.
If the £9650 one is a bag of bolts, I wouldn't then use that to affect the bid if I went to see the other car. I wouldn't even view it if I wasn't prepared to go north of £10k for it.
I suspect there are many more who behave like my first paragraph than I would do though.
anotheruser said:
I'm rubbish at negotiation.
I'm not really a conversationalist.
The prices of two similar cars aren't particularly inflated when using Auto Trader's car valuation tool.
The prices are £10,450 and £9,650.
Without being rude and without having to get into the nitty gritty swinging prices back and fourth, what sort of offer should I make?
Should I then agree to meet in the middle and be done? Or swing it a little more my way?
I know I should be prepared to walk away and will do as there's others I can go and see but these two seem pretty good for the money (others I have seen are priced £1000 higher. I'd be looking to buy that day if possible.
If you hate negotiation and haggling, an easy tactic is to say you're interested, will buy today and ask if that can move a little on price? You don't have to start bouncing numbers backwards and forwards. Worst case is simply that they say no but, as others have said, you'll know before travelling whether it's decent value or not. If it's a local outfit they might offer you next year's service free or something, so it doesn't have to be all about the sticker price. I'm not really a conversationalist.
The prices of two similar cars aren't particularly inflated when using Auto Trader's car valuation tool.
The prices are £10,450 and £9,650.
Without being rude and without having to get into the nitty gritty swinging prices back and fourth, what sort of offer should I make?
Should I then agree to meet in the middle and be done? Or swing it a little more my way?
I know I should be prepared to walk away and will do as there's others I can go and see but these two seem pretty good for the money (others I have seen are priced £1000 higher. I'd be looking to buy that day if possible.
There's no need for it to become in any way adversarial. Enjoy it - you're buying a car, what could be more of a treat?
jason61c said:
I can see it being annoying if everyone can see they're looking at £5k off a car before they walk in the showroom.
I was looking at a Seat Leon a couple of years ago, £5K off of a £21K car was on offer if you spent 30 seconds searching on CarWow.I went to another Seat dealer and after the test drive they came out with an A4 piece of paper showing full list price plus Supaguard, GAP, Tyre Insurance and Dent Insurance.
I showed them the CarWow quote, first of all they tried to tell me they were not real quotes, then they told me the dealer must be terrible if they need to do that to sell cars. The salesman (who I had met literally 30 minutes earlier) then said he would "look after me" and tried to convince me that we now had a relationship and that was worth something.
At the end of the day, if I saved £5K by not having the whole fluffy, hand holding experience then obviously I am going to go for that. For £5K I don't care if the dealer throws the keys at me and tells me to get out of their dealership immediately.
Strangely enough, a Renault dealer I visited offered me the CarWow price straight away.
Joey Deacon said:
I went to another Seat dealer and after the test drive they came out with an A4 piece of paper showing full list price plus Supaguard, GAP, Tyre Insurance and Dent Insurance.
I had that happen when buying wife's Tiguan - although the quote was on an iPad and he refused to give me a copy when I asked why it was £100/mth more than VW's advertised offer.I then used CarWow and the same dealer quoted in line with everyone else! Yes, I know it's different people but they made no attempt to recover the situation while we were in front of them. Bought from another local VW dealer (same group as the first), who negotiated down (a little) from the CarWow price.
dontfollowme said:
Could someone do a Glasses check for me? Happy to buy a virtual beer for it.
Use this, it’s linked directly to CAP figures, and it’s free! https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/used-cars/part-exchan...
AmitG said:
jamoor said:
Which market is this car going for exactly? I just don't see it.
I guess it will be an oddball like the camry that they launched. Noone will buy these two models and they will become future bargain barges.
The new Camry is an interesting one. I bought one, and I love it (would give the reasons but don't want to derail the thread). The dealer said that Toyota brought only 500 Camry into the UK last year and they sold much quicker than expected so they are going to bring more. The main reason they brought it over was that customers wanted a proper upgrade from the Avensis.I guess it will be an oddball like the camry that they launched. Noone will buy these two models and they will become future bargain barges.
Highlander has the potential to do well. I can't think of another hybrid 7-seater on sale now that the Prius+ is gone. There must be families who want 7 seats and want Toyota reliability. But I agree that the pricing is too high.
What did make you buy a Camry?
BrabusMog said:
SpeckledJim said:
Osinjak said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
Enjoy it - you're buying a car, what could be more of a treat?
Getting a nosh off a high-end porn star?Blakewater said:
Non-premium brand saloons like the Toyota Camry, Ford Mondeo, Peugeot 508, etc are underrated by buyers who all want premium brand cars and usually SUVs. I think the problem then is they don't hold their value as well and that makes it more difficult for finance companies to offer competitive finance deals. Then it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy that they don't sell as well.
What did make you buy a Camry?
My budget was about 30k.What did make you buy a Camry?
I don't like SUVs. I like to be lower down.
I prefer saloons to hatchbacks - I think they generally look better, and the boot area is more secure.
I like hybrids and I wanted something super reliable and with no gimmicks.
Put that together and you're down to Toyota Camry or Lexus ES (used)...
I actually love it. It does what it is meant to do, and feels like it will last forever.
CharlesdeGaulle said:
BrabusMog said:
SpeckledJim said:
Osinjak said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
Enjoy it - you're buying a car, what could be more of a treat?
Getting a nosh off a high-end porn star?JPJPJP said:
They have bought similar chains in other European countries. They might even have a look here sometime.
Aramisauto was the French one
I wonder when the .co.uk will launch. Indeed I wonderAramisauto was the French one
https://www.groupe-psa.com/en/brands-and-services/...
What's the weirdest thing you've ever taken in part exchange?
I came across a Twitter post from a Mini dealership once showing a Mercedes Vito that had been done up as a Walking Dead zombie apocalypse response vehicle.
A Ford dealership local to me used to sell on boats, quad bikes, motorised go-carts and all sorts of non-car things that had been taken in part exchange.
I came across a Twitter post from a Mini dealership once showing a Mercedes Vito that had been done up as a Walking Dead zombie apocalypse response vehicle.
A Ford dealership local to me used to sell on boats, quad bikes, motorised go-carts and all sorts of non-car things that had been taken in part exchange.
Blakewater said:
What's the weirdest thing you've ever taken in part exchange?
I came across a Twitter post from a Mini dealership once showing a Mercedes Vito that had been done up as a Walking Dead zombie apocalypse response vehicle.
A Ford dealership local to me used to sell on boats, quad bikes, motorised go-carts and all sorts of non-car things that had been taken in part exchange.
Only a Triumph Herald, taken in last year, bloody awful thing and yet it had been used as his daily for many years. I came across a Twitter post from a Mini dealership once showing a Mercedes Vito that had been done up as a Walking Dead zombie apocalypse response vehicle.
A Ford dealership local to me used to sell on boats, quad bikes, motorised go-carts and all sorts of non-car things that had been taken in part exchange.
It was a s
t box, one of those cars that no matter what you do it just won't engage 1st or reverse and yet like magic it just happens and then won't again, no matter how hard one tries, it had 4 keys: ignition, fuel cap and both front doors, the drivers seat was fixed (he was tall, I'm not), coupled with the dodgy gearbox it was certainly an event when I went to move it, it also had a weird starting sequence; don't do this, but do that and of course I'd forgotten what to do and what not to do, by the time he'd left.We gave the guy £250 for it as there was some £250 new for old scheme on the new car he was buying, he was happy with that, said he could probably get £1k for it if he could be bothered to sell it himself to the right person, we genuinely thought "oh Yeahh of course, they all say that", we ended up getting £1k for it.
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