Ask a car salesman anything...anything at all (Vol. 2).

Ask a car salesman anything...anything at all (Vol. 2).

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CharlesdeGaulle

26,014 posts

179 months

Thursday 18th February 2021
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21st Century Man said:
MorganP104 said:
The Mad Monk said:
21st Century Man said:
took a Montego in part exchange from a vet and parked it up around the back, it really smelled. A few hours later the vet came back, he'd left something in the boot. Dead Alsation.
Why did he have a deceased person from Northern France in his boot?
hehe

I like this, being as I'm a proper sucker for a bit of word play.
Like a bit of Alsacienne fellatio do we?
Who wouldn't?

PartsMonkey

315 posts

136 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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The Rotrex Kid said:
Blakewater said:
If you get a showroom car that's a new model, is there a restriction on when you can sell it?

Could you sell it on the understanding with the customer that it can only be released and handed over on a certain future date because it's still needed for showroom display?
Normally you have to have a specific model/trim level in the showroom so you can’t sell that exact car if it’s the only one you’ve got/can get.

No reason you couldn’t agree with a customer to sell them that car as soon as you are allowed to release it.
There was a rule when I was at a Mitsubishi dealership that the showroom and demo cars had to be held for a certain amount of time before they could be sold. Never shy to find a loophole, the MD sold an L200 to a rather insistent chap on the proviso that the V5 change of ownership would not be processed until the time limit was up. We spent the next few months receiving PCN's for speeding, red lights, No right turn/U turns and yellow boxes. Then, when it was time to put it in the customers name, he was back in the showroom trying to reject the car because of a fault despite him covering 24,000 miles in 6 months without servicing it.

BGTROPHY

20 posts

71 months

Sunday 21st February 2021
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Fast Bug said:
Carwow is just one of those things that some dealers will cut their throat on to get business. The thing to remember (which many people don't), is not to get upset if a dealer declines the opportunity to lose money match the Carwow price.
preach

Auto810graphy

1,351 posts

91 months

Sunday 21st February 2021
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alangla said:
Somewhat random question, but why is it so bloody hard to find a new-ish used Octavia VRS in Scotland? There seems to be loads in the North West & North East but nothing north of the border. Went to talk to a dealer at one of the local groups, the last one he'd heard of in the group was in Inverness, but hadn't seen one for ages.
Are there other cars that suffer from odd regional droughts?
Nothing to do with regions, more like the dealer groups behind the Scottish franchises don’t want to stock them.

They all have similar demo bonus when new and get the chance to buy nearly new from the same trade sources.

cambb

66 posts

117 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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I've seen a 6 month old Volvo that has loads of extras in that I'm interested in for 40k. I'm not in a great hurry to buy as have a lease car that I can send back anytime.ive got the cash to buy the Volvo but were do I start negotiating a price for it? Do I wait to the end of the month or year or try and make a move for it now? Id be happy to pay 37.5k for it. Is that reasonable? Thanks

Mr Squarekins

1,041 posts

61 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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cambb said:
I've seen a 6 month old Volvo that has loads of extras in that I'm interested in for 40k. I'm not in a great hurry to buy as have a lease car that I can send back anytime.ive got the cash to buy the Volvo but were do I start negotiating a price for it? Do I wait to the end of the month or year or try and make a move for it now? Id be happy to pay 37.5k for it. Is that reasonable? Thanks
I'd cheekily offer £34k to start with, knowing that I have no chance, but aiming for 36.5-37.5 a week or two later. It looks reasonable to me, but depends who else has been interested.

HTP99

22,404 posts

139 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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cambb said:
I've seen a 6 month old Volvo that has loads of extras in that I'm interested in for 40k. I'm not in a great hurry to buy as have a lease car that I can send back anytime.ive got the cash to buy the Volvo but were do I start negotiating a price for it? Do I wait to the end of the month or year or try and make a move for it now? Id be happy to pay 37.5k for it. Is that reasonable? Thanks
"37.5k" Who knows!!

How's it priced vs similar that is out there, if its priced along similar lines then it's likely the correct price, there's no hard and fast rule that X make and Y model at so and so age should be Z amount or have a specific margin in it.

As has been explained numerous times, due to cars being able to be viewed nationally, they have to be the correct price in the first place vs what else is available, plus currently replacing good stock is hard, used car values are strong and in some cases rising.

If its the car you want, it's priced well and you can afford it (as advertised) go in with an offer but expect to pay the asking price.

Nickp82

3,163 posts

92 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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cambb said:
I've seen a 6 month old Volvo that has loads of extras in that I'm interested in for 40k. I'm not in a great hurry to buy as have a lease car that I can send back anytime.ive got the cash to buy the Volvo but were do I start negotiating a price for it? Do I wait to the end of the month or year or try and make a move for it now? Id be happy to pay 37.5k for it. Is that reasonable? Thanks
Spec sells, particularly on nearly new cars as they offer a chunk of saving when you tot up the cost new with options. For example, despite the S90 being very hard work to sell in my short-lived Volvo days, the launch-spec demo cars we had across the group with top notch B&O sound etc sold no problem.
A £2.5k discount is probably optimistic but if it’s what you are prepared to pay, make the offer.

cambb

66 posts

117 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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I've specced the car up on Volvo and its 50k. Its was registered in June 20 and has 4k miles on it

valiant

10,015 posts

159 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Any Fiat bods on here?

Need a small favour if poss (nothing dodgy, just a vin check with regards to whether a warranty is active or not - dealer I got it from is all closed due to Covid).

Trikster

818 posts

201 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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cambb said:
I've specced the car up on Volvo and its 50k. Its was registered in June 20 and has 4k miles on it
Not sure how things may have changed over the last 6 months but I bought a 12 month old V60 T5 from a main dealer Sept last year - couldn't get them to shift on price as it was well specced and priced as per others in the main dealer network, though had a few more toys; got a couple of bits thrown in - roof bars, tank of fuel;. The saving on new was silly though; low 40s new, mid/high 20s 12 months on.... do love depreciation (and I know it's got a way to go)


Buster73

5,033 posts

152 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Selling my wife’s S3 next month / early April depending when her new car arrives.

One owner from new 17 plate , low mileage , full supplying dealer history.

It’s a three door model which I believe they no longer make , how does that effect it’s value ?

I don’t know if we can be bothered to advertise it privately and suffer the consequences with time wasting punters or sell to the trade .

Can anyone point me in the right direction with some advice please ?

Jasandjules

69,787 posts

228 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Here is my question: Are you a bit put out that private sellers appear to be pricing the same as dealers?

HTP99

22,404 posts

139 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Jasandjules said:
Here is my question: Are you a bit put out that private sellers appear to be pricing the same as dealers?
Why would we be "put out"?

BrabusMog

20,075 posts

185 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Jasandjules said:
Here is my question: Are you a bit put out that private sellers appear to be pricing the same as dealers?
If I was a car salesman and this was happening I’d be rubbing my hands together, who would buy private when they could buy with a warranty etc?

Jasandjules

69,787 posts

228 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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HTP99 said:
Jasandjules said:
Here is my question: Are you a bit put out that private sellers appear to be pricing the same as dealers?
Why would we be "put out"?
Well I suppose that would depend on whether or not the car sells. At the moment I've sold two cars privately yet not been able to view a car I want to buy as they are at dealers...........

andymc

7,328 posts

206 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Buster73 said:
Selling my wife’s S3 next month / early April depending when her new car arrives.

One owner from new 17 plate , low mileage , full supplying dealer history.

It’s a three door model which I believe they no longer make , how does that effect it’s value ?

I don’t know if we can be bothered to advertise it privately and suffer the consequences with time wasting punters or sell to the trade .

Can anyone point me in the right direction with some advice please ?
message jimmyconwaynw on here, he owns RS car sales, it's their type of stock

Blakewater

4,302 posts

156 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Dealers are posting pics of their 21 plate handovers. There are always people who've travelled a long way to buy cars from specific dealers.

This guy has gone from Scotland to Salisbury to buy a brand new 3 Series from this particular dealer. Possibly a Carwow deal or similar or they just undercut nearer dealers by enough margin to warrant the trip.

Has any salesman here had someone travel a long way for a car and why do people do it?

https://twitter.com/Marshall_BMW/status/1366438080...

Save Ferris

2,683 posts

212 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Blakewater said:
Has any salesman here had someone travel a long way for a car and why do people do it?
The group I used to work for did Carwow for a year, before they realised it was financial suicide.

I once sold a car to someone in In Scotland, and delivered it.
Portsmouth to Edinburgh in one day, drove up and flew back on Flybe.

Auto810graphy

1,351 posts

91 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Buster73 said:
Selling my wife’s S3 next month / early April depending when her new car arrives.

One owner from new 17 plate , low mileage , full supplying dealer history.

It’s a three door model which I believe they no longer make , how does that effect it’s value ?

I don’t know if we can be bothered to advertise it privately and suffer the consequences with time wasting punters or sell to the trade .

Can anyone point me in the right direction with some advice please ?
I would avoid advertising and Audi S, RS or VW R privately based on the sort of people you will deal with.

The last S3 we advertised was stolen two days after the advert went live.